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Is there any depth of feeling for recognising an English spelling of the town's name, for instance "Dunleary"? It seems unlikely that Dún Laoghaire would be the busiest port in all of Ireland. I would suspect that either Dublin port or Larne would be busier. Is there any way to verify? Cpm
"Dunleary, Co. Dublin" written on an envelope always arrives! 78.16.17.93 ( talk) 11:26, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
I don't regard /dʌn ˈlɪəri/ as an anglicized pronunciation of Dún Laoghaire. I regard it as a pronunciation of "Dunleary". Just as many people call Rath Luirc " Charleville", the English name persists. The fact that Dunleary obviously derives from Dún Laoghaire is irrelevant. Eighteenth-century Hiberno-English speakers would have pronounced "Dunleary" domething like the Irish /duːn leːrɪ/, but it's the English version whose pronunciation has evolved. I know there is a limerick:
but I think this dates from the 1920s when Irish placenames (and limericks) were new and interesting. jnestorius( talk) 14:02, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Allie, I know that Doctors differ and patients die etc - but I don't think grouping the photos at the bottom improves matters. One or two up above might break up the solid block of text we now have. Also, the Infobox seems to be a bit truncated.
And as you can see from the photo here on the right, is not the least bit distracting! But if it was any smaller you couldn't read it... (In the case of the Dún Laoghaire article I have no vested interest as none of the pics are mine!).
The street scene photo and one of the Harbour shots would look great placed in the main bulk of the article.
( Sarah777 22:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC))
Better! I've tried to match the sizes (infobox and pic) and bring the top of the infobox to the top (usual position)- I think we're getting there!! ( Sarah777 23:25, 16 February 2007 (UTC))
I felt it necessary to remove the following passage, but as it reduced me to tears I think it should be reproduced here:
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Any reason why the info box was partially removed? Wiki01916 01:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Good bit of tidying, I will save parts of "trivia" here for the record, and in case anyone wants to use some as bases for better material...:
SeoR ( talk) 18:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
A new section "Policing and criminal activity" has been added. I doubt its value. It just refers to the Harbour police, who are limited to the harbour area. and there is nothing about criminal activity. ClemMcGann ( talk) 23:49, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Should that improvement tag remain at the head of the article, or has it been improved enough by now? Hohenloh + 14:05, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:The harbour in Kingstown, Co. Dublin, Ireland, in about 1895 - Option 2.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on December 8, 2010. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2010-12-08. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :) Thanks! howcheng { chat} 22:53, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
hi there, after looking at google maps I came to the conclusion that the photo shows mainly the coastline of Glasthule. I took a lot of photos between James Joyce Tower and Dún Laoghaire harbour with a higher quality than the one used here and I'll upload more of them to Wikimedia commons... but I'd be really happy about opinions (better: reliable sources) about where the "boarders" between Sandycove, Glasthule and Dún Laoghaire are because I'd like to be able to categorize and use these photos correctly. I'm not sure if this is the best place to discuss that topic (better suggestions are welcome) as this photo is used in many other articles as well, but I'm afraid that none of the authors of these articles would read a discussion page on commons... -- YvonneM ( talk) 17:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
I've come across spellings of "Dun Laoighre" as well. Not mentioned in the article, but it gets a fair few hits on Google. Is this another alternative spelling, and should it be mentioned in the article? -- HighKing ( talk) 16:10, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
As per a related note, the population of Dún Laoghaire, even if we include ALL the surrounding Electoral Districts (like Sallynoggin and Sandycode) is maximum 26,525 people. However, without any qualification of explanation in the title of the table, its footnotes, or elsewhere, we have added (albeit with {{cn}} tags) a table which appears to suggest that the town of Dún Laoghaire has a population of nearly 190,000 people. I do not see how we can justify this. If the numbers in the table (up to the early 20th century or whatever) are supportable, then those "rows" should perhaps stand. But the (bluntly) fanciful numbers after that should be removed. Or, at the very least, the title of the table updated to reflect the region that it purports to cover. (Which, quite obviously, is not the town. And is some unspecified, unqualified and uncited area - which is clearly significantly broader in scope than the apparent scope/subject of this article). Guliolopez ( talk) 00:11, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Need to reflect this in the article - it likely will never again be. Removed ferry photos which should be, if anywhere, in the "history" section. Sarah777 ( talk) 23:10, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Please be aware I have raised a requested move proposal at Talk:Carlisle Pier#Requested move 26 July 2019 to form a Dún Laoghaire Harbour article which when developed would become primary article topic for that topic which may affect this article in the long term. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 20:36, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Dun (rhyming with done) is the main pronunciation of the Anglicised form (done-leery), but Dún, the Irish language form which is for a long time the main name, is sounded in the normal Irish way, something close to "Doon" (Doon layera) so we need a way to represent these - a little voice recording would make it all clear. There are other variants, but across years of visiting and later working there those were the two main variations I heard. SeoR ( talk) 08:50, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
Some seriously bad photos here...can anyone do better? Sarah777 ( talk) 09:38, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
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Is there any depth of feeling for recognising an English spelling of the town's name, for instance "Dunleary"? It seems unlikely that Dún Laoghaire would be the busiest port in all of Ireland. I would suspect that either Dublin port or Larne would be busier. Is there any way to verify? Cpm
"Dunleary, Co. Dublin" written on an envelope always arrives! 78.16.17.93 ( talk) 11:26, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
I don't regard /dʌn ˈlɪəri/ as an anglicized pronunciation of Dún Laoghaire. I regard it as a pronunciation of "Dunleary". Just as many people call Rath Luirc " Charleville", the English name persists. The fact that Dunleary obviously derives from Dún Laoghaire is irrelevant. Eighteenth-century Hiberno-English speakers would have pronounced "Dunleary" domething like the Irish /duːn leːrɪ/, but it's the English version whose pronunciation has evolved. I know there is a limerick:
but I think this dates from the 1920s when Irish placenames (and limericks) were new and interesting. jnestorius( talk) 14:02, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Allie, I know that Doctors differ and patients die etc - but I don't think grouping the photos at the bottom improves matters. One or two up above might break up the solid block of text we now have. Also, the Infobox seems to be a bit truncated.
And as you can see from the photo here on the right, is not the least bit distracting! But if it was any smaller you couldn't read it... (In the case of the Dún Laoghaire article I have no vested interest as none of the pics are mine!).
The street scene photo and one of the Harbour shots would look great placed in the main bulk of the article.
( Sarah777 22:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC))
Better! I've tried to match the sizes (infobox and pic) and bring the top of the infobox to the top (usual position)- I think we're getting there!! ( Sarah777 23:25, 16 February 2007 (UTC))
I felt it necessary to remove the following passage, but as it reduced me to tears I think it should be reproduced here:
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” |
Any reason why the info box was partially removed? Wiki01916 01:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Good bit of tidying, I will save parts of "trivia" here for the record, and in case anyone wants to use some as bases for better material...:
SeoR ( talk) 18:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
A new section "Policing and criminal activity" has been added. I doubt its value. It just refers to the Harbour police, who are limited to the harbour area. and there is nothing about criminal activity. ClemMcGann ( talk) 23:49, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Should that improvement tag remain at the head of the article, or has it been improved enough by now? Hohenloh + 14:05, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:The harbour in Kingstown, Co. Dublin, Ireland, in about 1895 - Option 2.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on December 8, 2010. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2010-12-08. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :) Thanks! howcheng { chat} 22:53, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
hi there, after looking at google maps I came to the conclusion that the photo shows mainly the coastline of Glasthule. I took a lot of photos between James Joyce Tower and Dún Laoghaire harbour with a higher quality than the one used here and I'll upload more of them to Wikimedia commons... but I'd be really happy about opinions (better: reliable sources) about where the "boarders" between Sandycove, Glasthule and Dún Laoghaire are because I'd like to be able to categorize and use these photos correctly. I'm not sure if this is the best place to discuss that topic (better suggestions are welcome) as this photo is used in many other articles as well, but I'm afraid that none of the authors of these articles would read a discussion page on commons... -- YvonneM ( talk) 17:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
I've come across spellings of "Dun Laoighre" as well. Not mentioned in the article, but it gets a fair few hits on Google. Is this another alternative spelling, and should it be mentioned in the article? -- HighKing ( talk) 16:10, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
As per a related note, the population of Dún Laoghaire, even if we include ALL the surrounding Electoral Districts (like Sallynoggin and Sandycode) is maximum 26,525 people. However, without any qualification of explanation in the title of the table, its footnotes, or elsewhere, we have added (albeit with {{cn}} tags) a table which appears to suggest that the town of Dún Laoghaire has a population of nearly 190,000 people. I do not see how we can justify this. If the numbers in the table (up to the early 20th century or whatever) are supportable, then those "rows" should perhaps stand. But the (bluntly) fanciful numbers after that should be removed. Or, at the very least, the title of the table updated to reflect the region that it purports to cover. (Which, quite obviously, is not the town. And is some unspecified, unqualified and uncited area - which is clearly significantly broader in scope than the apparent scope/subject of this article). Guliolopez ( talk) 00:11, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Need to reflect this in the article - it likely will never again be. Removed ferry photos which should be, if anywhere, in the "history" section. Sarah777 ( talk) 23:10, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Please be aware I have raised a requested move proposal at Talk:Carlisle Pier#Requested move 26 July 2019 to form a Dún Laoghaire Harbour article which when developed would become primary article topic for that topic which may affect this article in the long term. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 20:36, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Dun (rhyming with done) is the main pronunciation of the Anglicised form (done-leery), but Dún, the Irish language form which is for a long time the main name, is sounded in the normal Irish way, something close to "Doon" (Doon layera) so we need a way to represent these - a little voice recording would make it all clear. There are other variants, but across years of visiting and later working there those were the two main variations I heard. SeoR ( talk) 08:50, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
Some seriously bad photos here...can anyone do better? Sarah777 ( talk) 09:38, 6 June 2021 (UTC)