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There is an anecdote of her eccentirc sleeping habbits as queen (1843), which was delted from the text: There is an old story about this: in 1843, a palace guard saw the queen fully dressed on the palace balcony in the middle of the night. When he came home to his wife, he told her, that she was lazy in comparision to the queen, who went up hours before the sunrise: he though queen Desiree had went up earlier than anyone else in town, but in fact, she had not yet went to bed - she was eventually to rise from bed in three of four in the after noon. Its a harmless and amusing anecdote, so i'm reintroducing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.226.43.6 ( talk) 13:16, 13 November 2008 (UTC) Here is the reference: Lars O. Lagerqvist (1979). Bernadotternas drottningar (in Swedish). Albert Bonniers Förlag AB. ISBN 91-0-042916-3. -- 85.226.43.6 ( talk) 13:20, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
I feel as if I cannot trust this article, as there were numerous spelling errors that I had to fix. I suggest the article be reviewed by a competent historian to ensure accuracy. Da.skitz ( talk) 04:05, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
The information about her alleged affair with Ange Chiappe (they did now each other, and he was her escort, though their relationship is not proven to be physical) is from the cited reference by Lars Elgklou: Bernadotte. Historien - eller historier - om en familj (Bernadotte. The History - or historys - of a family). I do not know how to link this citation however. -- 85.226.47.151 ( talk) 18:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
As for her education, which was also asked for; The books about her, (among others those mentioned above), claim, that her education was that of an upper-class woman in general; not completely uncultivated, only that she simply learned was was considered apropriate for women in general; religion, etiquette, dance, history of the royal family, and some music. They were many very well educated women in the French aristocraty of course, but no where is she said to have belonged to them. More than that, however, I am not able to help. -- 85.226.47.151 ( talk) 19:15, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I wonder if this was really Desiree: She had a place in the coronation ceremony in 1804, holding the empress's train, and was later to say that she had supported Joséphine when the Bonaparte sisters also holding the train had tried to make the empress lose her balance. Could this perhaps be a mixup? I have heard, that it was actually her sister, Julie Clary, who did this, so perhaps the sisters have been confused with each other -- 85.226.42.9 ( talk) 17:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
I was citing the words of Queen Charlotte here not the words of Lindqvist, who reported Charlotte's words acccurately. It is well known to history that Crown Princess Desideria was treated with coldness, disdain and rudeness by Queen Charlotte, and I'll be glad to quote all of the disdainful comments Charlotte made about Desideria, if necessary, to prevent an un balanced pro-Charlotte POV from prevailing in this article. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 16:11, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
The infobox says she was Catholic but then in the Crown Princess paragraph it says she wasn't religious. So was she religious or not? 86.45.226.161 ( talk) 19:13, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
NOTE: This section "Meeting the Bonapartes" is not historically accurate, part of it taken directly from the fictional biography "Desiree" by Annemarie Selinko. The names of family members do not match the previous section. This section needs to be edited for historical accuracy and fictional accounts removed.
Editorial moved from article by Britmax ( talk) 08:30, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
To and including her coronation in 1829 her first given name was Eugénie/Eugenia which also seems to have been her name of address until then. All of her husband's letters are directed to and mention no other name. I have tried to find information about the change of her name of address from Eugénie/Eugenia to Désirée/Desideria. My theories are that it was sometime after her granddaughter Princess Eugénie of Sweden (Charlotta Eugenia Augiust etc etc) was born in 1830 and began to be called by her second given name, and/or after her king-husband's death in 1844 (when the granddaughter would have been 14). Certainly this woman is known to history mostly as Désirée Clary, and she signed her name Désirée, at least officially as queen. My question is why, and if anyone finds anything well sourced about that it would be great to add it to the article. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 07:00, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
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This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 03:06, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
There is an anecdote of her eccentirc sleeping habbits as queen (1843), which was delted from the text: There is an old story about this: in 1843, a palace guard saw the queen fully dressed on the palace balcony in the middle of the night. When he came home to his wife, he told her, that she was lazy in comparision to the queen, who went up hours before the sunrise: he though queen Desiree had went up earlier than anyone else in town, but in fact, she had not yet went to bed - she was eventually to rise from bed in three of four in the after noon. Its a harmless and amusing anecdote, so i'm reintroducing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.226.43.6 ( talk) 13:16, 13 November 2008 (UTC) Here is the reference: Lars O. Lagerqvist (1979). Bernadotternas drottningar (in Swedish). Albert Bonniers Förlag AB. ISBN 91-0-042916-3. -- 85.226.43.6 ( talk) 13:20, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
I feel as if I cannot trust this article, as there were numerous spelling errors that I had to fix. I suggest the article be reviewed by a competent historian to ensure accuracy. Da.skitz ( talk) 04:05, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
The information about her alleged affair with Ange Chiappe (they did now each other, and he was her escort, though their relationship is not proven to be physical) is from the cited reference by Lars Elgklou: Bernadotte. Historien - eller historier - om en familj (Bernadotte. The History - or historys - of a family). I do not know how to link this citation however. -- 85.226.47.151 ( talk) 18:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
As for her education, which was also asked for; The books about her, (among others those mentioned above), claim, that her education was that of an upper-class woman in general; not completely uncultivated, only that she simply learned was was considered apropriate for women in general; religion, etiquette, dance, history of the royal family, and some music. They were many very well educated women in the French aristocraty of course, but no where is she said to have belonged to them. More than that, however, I am not able to help. -- 85.226.47.151 ( talk) 19:15, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I wonder if this was really Desiree: She had a place in the coronation ceremony in 1804, holding the empress's train, and was later to say that she had supported Joséphine when the Bonaparte sisters also holding the train had tried to make the empress lose her balance. Could this perhaps be a mixup? I have heard, that it was actually her sister, Julie Clary, who did this, so perhaps the sisters have been confused with each other -- 85.226.42.9 ( talk) 17:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
I was citing the words of Queen Charlotte here not the words of Lindqvist, who reported Charlotte's words acccurately. It is well known to history that Crown Princess Desideria was treated with coldness, disdain and rudeness by Queen Charlotte, and I'll be glad to quote all of the disdainful comments Charlotte made about Desideria, if necessary, to prevent an un balanced pro-Charlotte POV from prevailing in this article. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 16:11, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
The infobox says she was Catholic but then in the Crown Princess paragraph it says she wasn't religious. So was she religious or not? 86.45.226.161 ( talk) 19:13, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
NOTE: This section "Meeting the Bonapartes" is not historically accurate, part of it taken directly from the fictional biography "Desiree" by Annemarie Selinko. The names of family members do not match the previous section. This section needs to be edited for historical accuracy and fictional accounts removed.
Editorial moved from article by Britmax ( talk) 08:30, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
To and including her coronation in 1829 her first given name was Eugénie/Eugenia which also seems to have been her name of address until then. All of her husband's letters are directed to and mention no other name. I have tried to find information about the change of her name of address from Eugénie/Eugenia to Désirée/Desideria. My theories are that it was sometime after her granddaughter Princess Eugénie of Sweden (Charlotta Eugenia Augiust etc etc) was born in 1830 and began to be called by her second given name, and/or after her king-husband's death in 1844 (when the granddaughter would have been 14). Certainly this woman is known to history mostly as Désirée Clary, and she signed her name Désirée, at least officially as queen. My question is why, and if anyone finds anything well sourced about that it would be great to add it to the article. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 07:00, 25 February 2018 (UTC)