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"In Ras Tanura, the storm is expected to hit with full force, disrupting the oil operations of Saudi Aramco indefinitely. Residents should be advised to go as far inland as possible, or at least stay indoors and away from glass at all times. There has been no word yet as to whether Riyadh is far enough inland."
this isn't accurate, as the storm not going to even come this far west. Aspshortjock 15:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
The articles has Gonu listed as reaching a category 3 cyclone. www.wunderground.com has it listed as reaching category 5. Which is correct? http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/na200702.html Orichalcon 17:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
This article has a wealth of knowledge, which is a pleasant surprise considering where it is expected to make landfall. I could see this becoming a GA rather quickly after dissipation. Thegreatdr 22:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm just curious, is this the first time a storm has made it into the Gulf of Oman? Either way, this one is going to be the FARTHEST a storm has made it into the gulf- perhaps that should be included in the article once it's done?
Great Article so far, by the way, whoever wrote it. Would you like to write the Atlantic articles too? :) - Winter123 05:15, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Here's the site to Unisys archives. http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/index.html Based on these records, Gonu happens to be the first entering the Gulf of Oman. KyuuA4 04:30, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
http://www.alraialaam.com/06-06-2007/ie5/local.htm#05
There's a damage pic on the Arabic Wiki, though I'm not sure how easily it would be to transfer. If anyone is interested in trying, here's the link. Hurricanehink ( talk) 22:19, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
There are hundreds of user submitted videos, pictures and blog entries available at http://sadaboutgonu.blogspot.com . If anyone else agrees that this is useful information for wikipedia readers, kindly add it to the entry. Thank you. Stogey 04:56, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't a wikipedia entry have links to pages that actually show what is happening on the ground in addition to just a satellite image? This is all the article currently has to say about the impact to people in the region: "Strong waves and heavy rainfall flooded streets and some buildings" Is that it? This is worse than mainstream media coverage. Just take a look at pictures on flickr, youtube etc under tag "Gonu" and you may start to realise that the storm was in fact more than just an event to document in a scientific journal (which is not all that wikipedia is meant to be). Whilst it is appreciated that the format of the article is probably designed to be in line with other hurricane entries, surely there should be a human aspect to the article rather than just a scientific view of the whole tragedy. Why are you "personally, against though"?
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We could use videos uploaded to Youtube, provided the user who uploaded the videos have released them into the Public domain. Pictures from Flickr could also be used, but they have to be released into PD or have licensing info by the CC-BY-SA 2.5. -- RattleMan 05:53, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Wikinews is news to me. Never heard of it, but thank you. I will continue to put a link over there that hopefully readers will find useful. IMO, the quality of this article would be greatly improved if it had photos/videos to go alongside some of the facts, as you normally do in encyclopedia articles. If you or anyone else in this forum agrees, kindly add a few from flickr.com or youtube.com (with owner's permission of course or creative commons licence) to support facts stated in this article. You can also get photos/videos from http://sadaboutgonu.blogspot.com ( a non-profit blog setup by residents to make up for the lack of media coverage on the event ). So, in your opinion, are photos that have not been taken by a member of mainstream press not considered to be from an authoritative source? Stogey 05:58, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes, thats reasonable. Thank you for taking the time to engage in this discussion. It is no wonder that this site is such a huge success. :) Stogey 06:17, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
There are some pictures which I took with a personal camera. Actually, LOTS of pictures, and I wanna upload them. Would they be acceptable? Currently the article only has satellite photos, and pictures of car-stacks and 5 meter deep mud are more...interesting XD Unflavoured 01:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Egads!! Almost a month has passed without me fulfilling my promise! Apologies... (And no I dinnae forget, just am busy). How many pictures would suffice ?! Unflavoured 08:20, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
This passes all the criteria. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 03:46, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
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I uploaded Image:Gonu Damage in Qurum Beach 1.JPG today. My net connection is super slow, and this took almost 30 minutes. I have a total of 43 pictures good enough for wiki (the rest are either blurry, or too similar). Will try to upload 5 today, and post the links here. Unflavoured 15:15, 3 September 2007 (UTC) And Image:Gonu Damage in Qurum Commercial Area 02.JPG also Unflavoured 15:17, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
And Image:Gonu Damage in Qurum Garden Street 1.JPG also, will try to upload a few more. Unflavoured 15:26, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
OK, 5 pix total now.
Will be adding links to above Unflavoured 15:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I've removed the sentence saying Gonu was the first TC in the region as it is not true. First since 1945 perhaps, but judging by this image its number 4 since 1877.-- Nilf anion ( talk) 22:39, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Ok, does this sound like a remnant low?
“ | This storm was generated in the centre of the Arabian Sea in front of the first advance of the monsoon current on the 30th and 31st of May. It marched northwards to the Gulf of Oman and occasioned heavy rain and destructive winds at Muscat and on the Mekran coast which inflicted much damage on property and wrecked many native craft. The vessels passing through the storm experienced very stormy weather and winds of force 8 to 10. | ” |
That's how the Indian colonial government described a "cyclonic storm of moderate or considerable intensity" in 1898. I don't exactly trust the reliability of BT that old, but nonetheless it indicates a hurricane-strength system in the Gulf. The other 2 possibles correspond to a duplicate track to the first (how else do you get two storms following the same route, within 0.2 degrees of each other?), and one in 1890 - too early for me to cross-reference against Indian info.-- Nilf anion ( talk) 09:49, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
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Wind speeds and {{ convert}} I see that conversion templates have been added and removed a few times already. The problem with these templates is that they have no way of taking into account the fact that the figures for maximum sustained winds and maximum estimated gusts are already rounded to the nearest multiple of five. As a result, when they apply the conversion, they treat it as an exact quantity, which a) gives the appearance of more precision than there actually is, and b) removes accuracy in the measurement. For exact measurements, this is not a problem, and the templates can be used; for pre-rounded quantities (generally wind speeds), the conversion makes them stray from the source material. Titoxd( ?!? - cool stuff) 04:17, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
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"In Ras Tanura, the storm is expected to hit with full force, disrupting the oil operations of Saudi Aramco indefinitely. Residents should be advised to go as far inland as possible, or at least stay indoors and away from glass at all times. There has been no word yet as to whether Riyadh is far enough inland."
this isn't accurate, as the storm not going to even come this far west. Aspshortjock 15:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
The articles has Gonu listed as reaching a category 3 cyclone. www.wunderground.com has it listed as reaching category 5. Which is correct? http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/na200702.html Orichalcon 17:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
This article has a wealth of knowledge, which is a pleasant surprise considering where it is expected to make landfall. I could see this becoming a GA rather quickly after dissipation. Thegreatdr 22:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm just curious, is this the first time a storm has made it into the Gulf of Oman? Either way, this one is going to be the FARTHEST a storm has made it into the gulf- perhaps that should be included in the article once it's done?
Great Article so far, by the way, whoever wrote it. Would you like to write the Atlantic articles too? :) - Winter123 05:15, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Here's the site to Unisys archives. http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/index.html Based on these records, Gonu happens to be the first entering the Gulf of Oman. KyuuA4 04:30, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
http://www.alraialaam.com/06-06-2007/ie5/local.htm#05
There's a damage pic on the Arabic Wiki, though I'm not sure how easily it would be to transfer. If anyone is interested in trying, here's the link. Hurricanehink ( talk) 22:19, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
There are hundreds of user submitted videos, pictures and blog entries available at http://sadaboutgonu.blogspot.com . If anyone else agrees that this is useful information for wikipedia readers, kindly add it to the entry. Thank you. Stogey 04:56, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't a wikipedia entry have links to pages that actually show what is happening on the ground in addition to just a satellite image? This is all the article currently has to say about the impact to people in the region: "Strong waves and heavy rainfall flooded streets and some buildings" Is that it? This is worse than mainstream media coverage. Just take a look at pictures on flickr, youtube etc under tag "Gonu" and you may start to realise that the storm was in fact more than just an event to document in a scientific journal (which is not all that wikipedia is meant to be). Whilst it is appreciated that the format of the article is probably designed to be in line with other hurricane entries, surely there should be a human aspect to the article rather than just a scientific view of the whole tragedy. Why are you "personally, against though"?
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We could use videos uploaded to Youtube, provided the user who uploaded the videos have released them into the Public domain. Pictures from Flickr could also be used, but they have to be released into PD or have licensing info by the CC-BY-SA 2.5. -- RattleMan 05:53, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Wikinews is news to me. Never heard of it, but thank you. I will continue to put a link over there that hopefully readers will find useful. IMO, the quality of this article would be greatly improved if it had photos/videos to go alongside some of the facts, as you normally do in encyclopedia articles. If you or anyone else in this forum agrees, kindly add a few from flickr.com or youtube.com (with owner's permission of course or creative commons licence) to support facts stated in this article. You can also get photos/videos from http://sadaboutgonu.blogspot.com ( a non-profit blog setup by residents to make up for the lack of media coverage on the event ). So, in your opinion, are photos that have not been taken by a member of mainstream press not considered to be from an authoritative source? Stogey 05:58, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes, thats reasonable. Thank you for taking the time to engage in this discussion. It is no wonder that this site is such a huge success. :) Stogey 06:17, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
There are some pictures which I took with a personal camera. Actually, LOTS of pictures, and I wanna upload them. Would they be acceptable? Currently the article only has satellite photos, and pictures of car-stacks and 5 meter deep mud are more...interesting XD Unflavoured 01:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Egads!! Almost a month has passed without me fulfilling my promise! Apologies... (And no I dinnae forget, just am busy). How many pictures would suffice ?! Unflavoured 08:20, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
This passes all the criteria. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 03:46, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
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I uploaded Image:Gonu Damage in Qurum Beach 1.JPG today. My net connection is super slow, and this took almost 30 minutes. I have a total of 43 pictures good enough for wiki (the rest are either blurry, or too similar). Will try to upload 5 today, and post the links here. Unflavoured 15:15, 3 September 2007 (UTC) And Image:Gonu Damage in Qurum Commercial Area 02.JPG also Unflavoured 15:17, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
And Image:Gonu Damage in Qurum Garden Street 1.JPG also, will try to upload a few more. Unflavoured 15:26, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
OK, 5 pix total now.
Will be adding links to above Unflavoured 15:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I've removed the sentence saying Gonu was the first TC in the region as it is not true. First since 1945 perhaps, but judging by this image its number 4 since 1877.-- Nilf anion ( talk) 22:39, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Ok, does this sound like a remnant low?
“ | This storm was generated in the centre of the Arabian Sea in front of the first advance of the monsoon current on the 30th and 31st of May. It marched northwards to the Gulf of Oman and occasioned heavy rain and destructive winds at Muscat and on the Mekran coast which inflicted much damage on property and wrecked many native craft. The vessels passing through the storm experienced very stormy weather and winds of force 8 to 10. | ” |
That's how the Indian colonial government described a "cyclonic storm of moderate or considerable intensity" in 1898. I don't exactly trust the reliability of BT that old, but nonetheless it indicates a hurricane-strength system in the Gulf. The other 2 possibles correspond to a duplicate track to the first (how else do you get two storms following the same route, within 0.2 degrees of each other?), and one in 1890 - too early for me to cross-reference against Indian info.-- Nilf anion ( talk) 09:49, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I'm specifically going over all of the "Meteorology and atmospheric sciences" articles. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. I have made several minor corrections throughout the article. Altogether the article is well-written and is still in great shape after its passing in 2007. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! -- Nehrams2020 ( talk) 00:16, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Wind speeds and {{ convert}} I see that conversion templates have been added and removed a few times already. The problem with these templates is that they have no way of taking into account the fact that the figures for maximum sustained winds and maximum estimated gusts are already rounded to the nearest multiple of five. As a result, when they apply the conversion, they treat it as an exact quantity, which a) gives the appearance of more precision than there actually is, and b) removes accuracy in the measurement. For exact measurements, this is not a problem, and the templates can be used; for pre-rounded quantities (generally wind speeds), the conversion makes them stray from the source material. Titoxd( ?!? - cool stuff) 04:17, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
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