This article is needed as a spinout (or spinoff) from the Cuba article, to defuse the edit war over whether Cuba is, or is not, a democracy. -- Uncle Ed 19:40, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm wondering about the structure, of this article. It would make sense to structure it according to opposing views, one after another. However there is some sense in structuring it chronologically. Since the US democracy act in the 1990's a lot of positions have changed in the last five years. Since the UN ratified the treaty in 2000 on the issue of Cuban democracy, and the rise of the Bolivarians. My personal preference is to have the different positions intertwined over last 40 years or so. However that might not be condusive to group editing. -- Zleitzen 22:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
"not a democracy"
neutral
"Some Democratic practices"
-- Zleitzen 22:50, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
This article should be listed on AfD. This looks more like a paper topic than an encyclopedia article; Wikipedia isn't a paper. The content here belongs in an entry like politics of Cuba. 172 | Talk 02:20, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
A big reason that Elections in Cuba should not be merged with Cuba and democracy is that usually the definition of the word 'democracy' used when discussing Cuba is the 'value system' definition, not the 'electoral system' definition. BruceHallman 19:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Bruce not to merge the articles. Furthermore there is a series Elections in ... series for each country, so please keep the article separate. Electionworld = Wilfried ( talk 20:38, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I also oppose the merger. I'd like to see more discussion in Cuba and democracy over whether Cuba is a democracy or not - based, of course, on (1) what definitions of democracy are being used and (2) who's making this sort of judgment. -- Uncle Ed 21:22, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I think it should be agreed that any paragraphs or statements that don't directly refer to "democracy" should be considered redundant. -- Zleitzen 23:07, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm not really keen on the EU or US statements Ultramarine as they refer to the electoral process, they don't discuss "democracy" and it's application. Your "Human Rights Defenders in Cuba" is relevant and is a good link. -- Zleitzen 18:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
The electoral process is one of the most critical parts of democracy and its application. If you don't have a democratic electoral process then you don't have democracy. Besides the EU statement doesn't just discuss the mechanics of Cuba's electoral process but makes the more general statement that they feel Cuba should move to a 'pluralist democracy', if that's not discussing "democracy" then I don't know what is. Please leave both the US and EU statements in as they are highly relevant. -- Linuxadmin
This article is needed as a spinout (or spinoff) from the Cuba article, to defuse the edit war over whether Cuba is, or is not, a democracy. -- Uncle Ed 19:40, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm wondering about the structure, of this article. It would make sense to structure it according to opposing views, one after another. However there is some sense in structuring it chronologically. Since the US democracy act in the 1990's a lot of positions have changed in the last five years. Since the UN ratified the treaty in 2000 on the issue of Cuban democracy, and the rise of the Bolivarians. My personal preference is to have the different positions intertwined over last 40 years or so. However that might not be condusive to group editing. -- Zleitzen 22:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
"not a democracy"
neutral
"Some Democratic practices"
-- Zleitzen 22:50, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
This article should be listed on AfD. This looks more like a paper topic than an encyclopedia article; Wikipedia isn't a paper. The content here belongs in an entry like politics of Cuba. 172 | Talk 02:20, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
A big reason that Elections in Cuba should not be merged with Cuba and democracy is that usually the definition of the word 'democracy' used when discussing Cuba is the 'value system' definition, not the 'electoral system' definition. BruceHallman 19:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Bruce not to merge the articles. Furthermore there is a series Elections in ... series for each country, so please keep the article separate. Electionworld = Wilfried ( talk 20:38, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I also oppose the merger. I'd like to see more discussion in Cuba and democracy over whether Cuba is a democracy or not - based, of course, on (1) what definitions of democracy are being used and (2) who's making this sort of judgment. -- Uncle Ed 21:22, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I think it should be agreed that any paragraphs or statements that don't directly refer to "democracy" should be considered redundant. -- Zleitzen 23:07, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm not really keen on the EU or US statements Ultramarine as they refer to the electoral process, they don't discuss "democracy" and it's application. Your "Human Rights Defenders in Cuba" is relevant and is a good link. -- Zleitzen 18:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
The electoral process is one of the most critical parts of democracy and its application. If you don't have a democratic electoral process then you don't have democracy. Besides the EU statement doesn't just discuss the mechanics of Cuba's electoral process but makes the more general statement that they feel Cuba should move to a 'pluralist democracy', if that's not discussing "democracy" then I don't know what is. Please leave both the US and EU statements in as they are highly relevant. -- Linuxadmin