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It's cited enough to be notable, but does it need its own page? 2603:7081:B940:10:B896:631C:4EEE:CCAA ( talk) 02:12, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
I have reverted LauraRichards1981's additions (e.g., [1]) because they are not sourced and not neutral, and appear to just be an addition of their own opinion on the article topic rather than a summary of reliable secondary sources. I am starting this section for discussion, per WP:BRD. DanCherek ( talk) 14:17, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
The concept of the “cotton ceiling” being a barrier to trans women accessing lesbian women as sexual partners is hate speech at best, on par with promoting the idea of “autogynephilia” in that it portrays trans women such as myself as sexual predators and perverts. I will be watching this article and quickly restore it against anyone else who tries to promote similar transphobic hate speech. Knitesmire ( talk) 03:25, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
The wording here is very odd. Peoples sexual spaces are singular and unique to them, not part of some "shared resource". For example, healthcare is by many - myself included - seen as a "resource" that everyone should have access to aka access to health care spaces. I do not feel the same way concerning sex and relationships. SinoDevonian ( talk) 15:21, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
This article was nominated for deletion on 27 December 2022. The result of the discussion was keep. |
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It's cited enough to be notable, but does it need its own page? 2603:7081:B940:10:B896:631C:4EEE:CCAA ( talk) 02:12, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
I have reverted LauraRichards1981's additions (e.g., [1]) because they are not sourced and not neutral, and appear to just be an addition of their own opinion on the article topic rather than a summary of reliable secondary sources. I am starting this section for discussion, per WP:BRD. DanCherek ( talk) 14:17, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
The concept of the “cotton ceiling” being a barrier to trans women accessing lesbian women as sexual partners is hate speech at best, on par with promoting the idea of “autogynephilia” in that it portrays trans women such as myself as sexual predators and perverts. I will be watching this article and quickly restore it against anyone else who tries to promote similar transphobic hate speech. Knitesmire ( talk) 03:25, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
The wording here is very odd. Peoples sexual spaces are singular and unique to them, not part of some "shared resource". For example, healthcare is by many - myself included - seen as a "resource" that everyone should have access to aka access to health care spaces. I do not feel the same way concerning sex and relationships. SinoDevonian ( talk) 15:21, 5 October 2023 (UTC)