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elderly man
Thats great that the definition is in the the wiki dictionary, but that isn't obvious to anyone from the page, and thats why I came to the page. Are you saying it doesnt belong because there is no article on it? Then we have to remove all redlinks. --
Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (
talk)
16:44, 26 November 2007 (UTC)reply
I'm saying that it does not belong on this page, because:
There will never be an article for
elderly man. But
WP:D says Disambiguation in Wikipedia is the process of resolving conflicts in article titles that occur when a single term can be associated with more than one topic, making that term likely to be the natural choice of title for more than one article. In other words, disambiguations are paths leading to the different article pages that could use essentially the same term as their title. This is a disambiguation page.
Having an external link to the coot dictdef is not encouraged per
MOS:DAB#Individual entries, External links should rarely, if ever, be given entries in disambiguation pages. the wiktionary template already links to all dictdef possibilities.
None of the current redlinks have to be removed, because per
MOS:DAB#Redlinks, Links to non-existent articles ("redlinks") should be included only when an editor is confident that an encyclopedia article can be written on the subject. I am confident about
Ilyushin Il-22,
Ilyushin Il-24 and
Coot (vehicle), but not about either
elderly man nor
Coot (slang). I am going to revert now. If you still disagree, please read
MOS:DAB carefully. If you have further questions, ask on this talk page before reverting, or start a new thread at
WT:MOSDAB. Thank you. –
sgeurekat•c22:19, 26 November 2007 (UTC)reply
I'm a bit biased, but I think the Il-22 should be reinstated. It is notable and the article is bound to be written at some point; even without it, I included some useful info. The Il-24 is a bit more iffy, but NATO thought enough of it to give it its own codename.
Clarityfiend (
talk)
09:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)reply
Ilyushin Il-22 has a handful of incoming links (usually a sign that it will get an article in the near future), whereas
Ilyushin Il-24 only has one (other than from this dab page). IMO,
Ilyushin Il-22 should definitely be added back. I'm fairly neutral on
Ilyushin Il-24 , although I would personally list it since the other Coot-x airplanes are/will be listed. –
sgeurekat•c10:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)reply
Articles that contain non linked definitions
...There are many articles to ambiguous terms that contain non linked definitions:
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elderly man
Thats great that the definition is in the the wiki dictionary, but that isn't obvious to anyone from the page, and thats why I came to the page. Are you saying it doesnt belong because there is no article on it? Then we have to remove all redlinks. --
Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (
talk)
16:44, 26 November 2007 (UTC)reply
I'm saying that it does not belong on this page, because:
There will never be an article for
elderly man. But
WP:D says Disambiguation in Wikipedia is the process of resolving conflicts in article titles that occur when a single term can be associated with more than one topic, making that term likely to be the natural choice of title for more than one article. In other words, disambiguations are paths leading to the different article pages that could use essentially the same term as their title. This is a disambiguation page.
Having an external link to the coot dictdef is not encouraged per
MOS:DAB#Individual entries, External links should rarely, if ever, be given entries in disambiguation pages. the wiktionary template already links to all dictdef possibilities.
None of the current redlinks have to be removed, because per
MOS:DAB#Redlinks, Links to non-existent articles ("redlinks") should be included only when an editor is confident that an encyclopedia article can be written on the subject. I am confident about
Ilyushin Il-22,
Ilyushin Il-24 and
Coot (vehicle), but not about either
elderly man nor
Coot (slang). I am going to revert now. If you still disagree, please read
MOS:DAB carefully. If you have further questions, ask on this talk page before reverting, or start a new thread at
WT:MOSDAB. Thank you. –
sgeurekat•c22:19, 26 November 2007 (UTC)reply
I'm a bit biased, but I think the Il-22 should be reinstated. It is notable and the article is bound to be written at some point; even without it, I included some useful info. The Il-24 is a bit more iffy, but NATO thought enough of it to give it its own codename.
Clarityfiend (
talk)
09:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)reply
Ilyushin Il-22 has a handful of incoming links (usually a sign that it will get an article in the near future), whereas
Ilyushin Il-24 only has one (other than from this dab page). IMO,
Ilyushin Il-22 should definitely be added back. I'm fairly neutral on
Ilyushin Il-24 , although I would personally list it since the other Coot-x airplanes are/will be listed. –
sgeurekat•c10:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)reply
Articles that contain non linked definitions
...There are many articles to ambiguous terms that contain non linked definitions: