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I'm sorry I didn't justify the cleanup tag earlier - the stylistic problems seemed obvious to me. Anyway, this page is written in a slightly unencyclopedic tone, and doesn't conform the the standards of the other language pages. Mo-Al 18:34, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I added the link to Common phrases in Cook Islands Maori, so once that list gets expanded, the vocabulary section of this article can be removed. (I believe it has been discussed elsewhere why there should not be a vocabulary section in language articles) Mo-Al 18:34, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
The vocabulary section concerns the examples given in grammar section —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.114.196.18 ( talk • contribs)
Should the grammar section be removed? Does WP:NOT apply here? It seems to be mostly just a list of definitions. Definitely the vocabulary section should be removed (see topic above). Mo-Al 22:29, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
No, unless you ameliorate it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.114.196.18 ( talk • contribs)
Ethnologue states that what this article refers to as "dialects" are actually seperate languages. Should this article be split? Mo-Al 22:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Ethnologue SIL is not a reference concerning CK maori. If you want to clean up, stay in what in you are able to do —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.114.196.18 ( talk • contribs)
The only reference of the SIL for Cook Islands Maori and most south Pacific languages is the "atlas of Pacific area" by Wurm and Hattori. 1981. This book is actually under revision
UAI Project No. 36a: New Language Atlas of the Pacific Area
This project aims to produce a complete revision of The Language Atlas of the Pacific as edited by S.A. Wurm and S. Hattori under the direction of Dr Darrell Tryon." http://www.humanities.org.au/Policy/UAI/UAI.html
So if you want to have an "encyclopedic tone" as you said, give the real source. I would add that the difference between dialect and language is relative and not only a linguistic question but also a political and identity question. I don't think it would be a good idea to split the article, unless the Kopapa reo members decide to change their mind. If only they have had their own website or publications to clarify these sort of things, it would be easier :(
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The meaning of "kopapa reo" is not at all clear to the general reader without a background knowledge of this area; can we please have an inline citation, not simply a vague "see external link"? 86.136.252.24 ( talk) 03:22, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
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This article contains a set of example sentences illustrating the use of the pronouns. These are formatted in a rather odd way: with the word-by-word gloss separated from the original text. Woudln't it be better if these were formatted in the usual way for interlinear glosses, with the glosses aligned word by word under the original text? – Uanfala (talk) 17:36, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Can anyone explain this? I have attempted to look this up and figure out why it's controversial that the language is also named "Rarotongan" but have had no joy -- Theudariks 2.0 ( talk) 22:07, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Are Cook Islands Maori and the Maori language spoken in New Zealand more closely related to one another than any other two languages within this branch of the Polynesian languages? Or is the name overlap just because of a shared ethonym? -- Jfruh ( talk) 17:34, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
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I'm sorry I didn't justify the cleanup tag earlier - the stylistic problems seemed obvious to me. Anyway, this page is written in a slightly unencyclopedic tone, and doesn't conform the the standards of the other language pages. Mo-Al 18:34, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I added the link to Common phrases in Cook Islands Maori, so once that list gets expanded, the vocabulary section of this article can be removed. (I believe it has been discussed elsewhere why there should not be a vocabulary section in language articles) Mo-Al 18:34, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
The vocabulary section concerns the examples given in grammar section —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.114.196.18 ( talk • contribs)
Should the grammar section be removed? Does WP:NOT apply here? It seems to be mostly just a list of definitions. Definitely the vocabulary section should be removed (see topic above). Mo-Al 22:29, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
No, unless you ameliorate it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.114.196.18 ( talk • contribs)
Ethnologue states that what this article refers to as "dialects" are actually seperate languages. Should this article be split? Mo-Al 22:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Ethnologue SIL is not a reference concerning CK maori. If you want to clean up, stay in what in you are able to do —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.114.196.18 ( talk • contribs)
The only reference of the SIL for Cook Islands Maori and most south Pacific languages is the "atlas of Pacific area" by Wurm and Hattori. 1981. This book is actually under revision
UAI Project No. 36a: New Language Atlas of the Pacific Area
This project aims to produce a complete revision of The Language Atlas of the Pacific as edited by S.A. Wurm and S. Hattori under the direction of Dr Darrell Tryon." http://www.humanities.org.au/Policy/UAI/UAI.html
So if you want to have an "encyclopedic tone" as you said, give the real source. I would add that the difference between dialect and language is relative and not only a linguistic question but also a political and identity question. I don't think it would be a good idea to split the article, unless the Kopapa reo members decide to change their mind. If only they have had their own website or publications to clarify these sort of things, it would be easier :(
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-- Amazonien ( talk) 05:32, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
The meaning of "kopapa reo" is not at all clear to the general reader without a background knowledge of this area; can we please have an inline citation, not simply a vague "see external link"? 86.136.252.24 ( talk) 03:22, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
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This article contains a set of example sentences illustrating the use of the pronouns. These are formatted in a rather odd way: with the word-by-word gloss separated from the original text. Woudln't it be better if these were formatted in the usual way for interlinear glosses, with the glosses aligned word by word under the original text? – Uanfala (talk) 17:36, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Can anyone explain this? I have attempted to look this up and figure out why it's controversial that the language is also named "Rarotongan" but have had no joy -- Theudariks 2.0 ( talk) 22:07, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Are Cook Islands Maori and the Maori language spoken in New Zealand more closely related to one another than any other two languages within this branch of the Polynesian languages? Or is the name overlap just because of a shared ethonym? -- Jfruh ( talk) 17:34, 6 November 2021 (UTC)