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The article is not up-to-date. In 2023 Parliamentary election in Poland the party gained 18 seats. Robert Winnicki and Janusz Korwin-Mikke are not deputees anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.81.58.227 ( talk) 12:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
I think that calling Robert Winnicki or Grzegorz Braun far-right is not right. Winnicki is Polish classical nationalist like Roman Dmowski who was right-wing. There's nothing extreme in Winnicki's political statement I guess. Tashi Talk to me 18:26, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Because this picture is from europeans election with name Korwin Braun Liroy Narodowcy. Actual name is Wolność i Niepodległość. Historyk55635 ( talk) 21:55, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
The All-Polish Youth, although not officially the youth-wing of Confederation, it is a youth organization which officially joined Confederation on 6 December 2018 alongside the National Movement party, similarly to the Youth for Freedom, which is the youth wing of the KORWiN party, therefore should we add them to the article? Also, during the 2020–21 women's strike protests in Poland, Robert Bąkiewicz the founder of the March for Independence, formed the National Guard (Polish: Straż Narodowa) in order to protect churches and other objects from vandalization. Some branches of Confederation, such as the one in Tarnobrzeg, formed their own National Guard groups, thus should we add the National Guard as a de-facto paramilitary wing of Confederation (even if they are not de-jure affiliated, I believe)? HorCrux48 ( talk) 11:09, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Greetings. A similar issue unfolded on the Communist Party of Kampuchea article where the infobox was bloated with unsourced ideologies, which is also present here. Under the "internal factions" section, a plethora of unsourced ideologies are there, thus I suggest removing all of them except paleoconservatism and paleolibertarianism as those are the only two with citations. - Rediculizer42 ( talk) 14:17, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
@ Abcmaxx: I think there is a misunderstanding over what @ Helper201: meant by "parties’ respective pages". When I first read the edit summary I also initially assumed it referred to the parties' websites but I'm pretty sure it's about their respective articles on Wikipedia. And I think it makes sense to ensure consistency between the descriptions here and those on the respective articles. Kind regards, Robby.is.on ( talk) 19:22, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Janusz Korwin-Mikke and Grzegorz Braun are regarded in Poland as one of the most pro-Russian politicians, and the Supervisory Board cooperates with extremely nationalist circles such as the National-Radical Camp. 188.33.224.187 ( talk) 11:26, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
wikipedia rarely uses the other term "far-left", therefore you have a left-wing bias and framing in place. Better being right than wrong. 80.131.54.92 ( talk) 23:15, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
Better right than wrong. Why this left-wing smear tactic, wikipedia? You can do better than this. Try conservative, right-wing conservative, free-market liberal, libertarian or patriotic. 80.131.58.157 ( talk) 19:35, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
I agree with the people before. This is not far-right party. AIexperts ( talk) 02:00, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
Please correct the term. Tomekyy ( talk) 16:45, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
I see your bias.Please assume good faith.
Please provide sources […]As I wrote in a comment above yours in this section the reliable sources are in the "Ideology and position" section of the article". Kind regards, Robby.is.on ( talk) 09:37, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
I hope that the explanation is sufficientI'm afraid not. Wikipedia content is not meant to be based on our personal opinions as editors but should reflect what WP:reliable sources write about the article subjects. So you would need to bring reliable sources that support a different labelling of the political alliance and explain how "far-right" does not reflect what reliable sources say about it.
Is it always the case that the party is assument do be far-right unless proven otherwise?Wikipedia should reflect reliable sources. We have a great amount of high-quality sources which support the "far-right" descriptor; they are located in the "Ideology and position" section of the article. Robby.is.on ( talk) 14:02, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
The Party is pro-russia. 2A02:3030:811:650F:1:0:EB78:3254 ( talk) 17:23, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
The party voted for the charity tax and to tighten the sunday shopping ban. 2A02:3030:817:84EF:1:0:6BEE:57CA ( talk) 21:08, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
The party is pro-russian and anti-ukrainan. 2A02:3030:80E:DB4D:1:0:3E48:2FA5 ( talk) 15:33, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Is this party strongly more morally conservative than PiS, or the same? -- 95.24.70.233 ( talk) 04:52, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
While absent from their official platform, monarchism is the ralling cry for many leaders of the coalition. The former leader of the Coalition, and still a powerful figure within Konfederacja, has stated multiple times that they wish for a return to monarchy. [1] One of the main parties is the Confederation of the Polish Crown, which is openly monarchist. [2] One of the most prominent leaders of the coalition Krzysztof Bosak, has openly tweeted that "Constitutional monarchy is our (Polish) tradition". [3] And to cap that all, off the leader of the coalition, Sławomir Mentzen has openly claimed that he's a monarchist. [4] From my point of view, all of that is grounds for considering the party as monarchist.
Sources:
2. /info/en/?search=Confederation_of_the_Polish_Crown
3. https://twitter.com/krzysztofbosak/status/885898964100427777
4. https://pch24.tv/mentzen-w-mocnej-rozmowie-ja-demokrata-jestem-monarchista/ Mieszko Aders ( talk) 21:38, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
Who do Polish monarchists propose as a monarch? Does the party have a position? -- Error ( talk) 19:29, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Ahead of the 2023 Polish parliamentary election, they are considered the kingmakers. Bosak, one of Confederation's leaders, said: "Confederation has no intention of prolonging PiS's power or facilitating Tusk's return to power. The majority of our voters do not want this." Korwin-Mikke, a former member of the European Parliament who is running for the party from the Warsaw region in 2023, has a history of sexist statements about women. He said: "I am against voting rights for women. This is biology. A woman at the age of 55, when estrogen stops working, reaches the age when she can finally vote." Ryszard Zajączkowski, a university professor and one of the coalition's candidates, said that Poles were subjected to what he described as genocide "at the hands of Jews working together with communists" after World War II, and said that communism is worse than fascism. He said: "Compared to which the Auschwitz camp could be called a holiday camp."
this is the most blatant propaganda i have seen who here is working for pis
because this is a clear attept of pis to either smear tusk for potentially working with these guys(there are news articles LOOK for them) or an attept to scare their voters to vote for pis instead so that poland can have more bloted welfare and corruption
instead of decribing the political position of the party or party leaders it has butch of statements to make the party look bad because some candidates of the party(who don’t even lead it) said some edgy shuff
please someone remove this pis propaganda 193.210.196.102 ( talk) 17:38, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
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I want to update the amouut of members that Konfederacja has in the Sejmiki Wojewódzkie 2A02:6B6C:EC52:0:2571:1AB2:74E5:338C ( talk) 11:07, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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It is quite clear that the description is not right. I see many people before mentioned it ant it is not adjusted. 94.254.130.108 ( talk) 13:22, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Can someone explain why far-right not right-wing?See footnote 37, which is in the "Ideology and position" section and follows the statement "and it is positioned on the far right on the political spectrum". Robby.is.on ( talk) 13:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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The article is not up-to-date. In 2023 Parliamentary election in Poland the party gained 18 seats. Robert Winnicki and Janusz Korwin-Mikke are not deputees anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.81.58.227 ( talk) 12:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
I think that calling Robert Winnicki or Grzegorz Braun far-right is not right. Winnicki is Polish classical nationalist like Roman Dmowski who was right-wing. There's nothing extreme in Winnicki's political statement I guess. Tashi Talk to me 18:26, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Because this picture is from europeans election with name Korwin Braun Liroy Narodowcy. Actual name is Wolność i Niepodległość. Historyk55635 ( talk) 21:55, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
The All-Polish Youth, although not officially the youth-wing of Confederation, it is a youth organization which officially joined Confederation on 6 December 2018 alongside the National Movement party, similarly to the Youth for Freedom, which is the youth wing of the KORWiN party, therefore should we add them to the article? Also, during the 2020–21 women's strike protests in Poland, Robert Bąkiewicz the founder of the March for Independence, formed the National Guard (Polish: Straż Narodowa) in order to protect churches and other objects from vandalization. Some branches of Confederation, such as the one in Tarnobrzeg, formed their own National Guard groups, thus should we add the National Guard as a de-facto paramilitary wing of Confederation (even if they are not de-jure affiliated, I believe)? HorCrux48 ( talk) 11:09, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Greetings. A similar issue unfolded on the Communist Party of Kampuchea article where the infobox was bloated with unsourced ideologies, which is also present here. Under the "internal factions" section, a plethora of unsourced ideologies are there, thus I suggest removing all of them except paleoconservatism and paleolibertarianism as those are the only two with citations. - Rediculizer42 ( talk) 14:17, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
@ Abcmaxx: I think there is a misunderstanding over what @ Helper201: meant by "parties’ respective pages". When I first read the edit summary I also initially assumed it referred to the parties' websites but I'm pretty sure it's about their respective articles on Wikipedia. And I think it makes sense to ensure consistency between the descriptions here and those on the respective articles. Kind regards, Robby.is.on ( talk) 19:22, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Janusz Korwin-Mikke and Grzegorz Braun are regarded in Poland as one of the most pro-Russian politicians, and the Supervisory Board cooperates with extremely nationalist circles such as the National-Radical Camp. 188.33.224.187 ( talk) 11:26, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
wikipedia rarely uses the other term "far-left", therefore you have a left-wing bias and framing in place. Better being right than wrong. 80.131.54.92 ( talk) 23:15, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
Better right than wrong. Why this left-wing smear tactic, wikipedia? You can do better than this. Try conservative, right-wing conservative, free-market liberal, libertarian or patriotic. 80.131.58.157 ( talk) 19:35, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
I agree with the people before. This is not far-right party. AIexperts ( talk) 02:00, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
Please correct the term. Tomekyy ( talk) 16:45, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
I see your bias.Please assume good faith.
Please provide sources […]As I wrote in a comment above yours in this section the reliable sources are in the "Ideology and position" section of the article". Kind regards, Robby.is.on ( talk) 09:37, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
I hope that the explanation is sufficientI'm afraid not. Wikipedia content is not meant to be based on our personal opinions as editors but should reflect what WP:reliable sources write about the article subjects. So you would need to bring reliable sources that support a different labelling of the political alliance and explain how "far-right" does not reflect what reliable sources say about it.
Is it always the case that the party is assument do be far-right unless proven otherwise?Wikipedia should reflect reliable sources. We have a great amount of high-quality sources which support the "far-right" descriptor; they are located in the "Ideology and position" section of the article. Robby.is.on ( talk) 14:02, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
The Party is pro-russia. 2A02:3030:811:650F:1:0:EB78:3254 ( talk) 17:23, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
The party voted for the charity tax and to tighten the sunday shopping ban. 2A02:3030:817:84EF:1:0:6BEE:57CA ( talk) 21:08, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
The party is pro-russian and anti-ukrainan. 2A02:3030:80E:DB4D:1:0:3E48:2FA5 ( talk) 15:33, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Is this party strongly more morally conservative than PiS, or the same? -- 95.24.70.233 ( talk) 04:52, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
While absent from their official platform, monarchism is the ralling cry for many leaders of the coalition. The former leader of the Coalition, and still a powerful figure within Konfederacja, has stated multiple times that they wish for a return to monarchy. [1] One of the main parties is the Confederation of the Polish Crown, which is openly monarchist. [2] One of the most prominent leaders of the coalition Krzysztof Bosak, has openly tweeted that "Constitutional monarchy is our (Polish) tradition". [3] And to cap that all, off the leader of the coalition, Sławomir Mentzen has openly claimed that he's a monarchist. [4] From my point of view, all of that is grounds for considering the party as monarchist.
Sources:
2. /info/en/?search=Confederation_of_the_Polish_Crown
3. https://twitter.com/krzysztofbosak/status/885898964100427777
4. https://pch24.tv/mentzen-w-mocnej-rozmowie-ja-demokrata-jestem-monarchista/ Mieszko Aders ( talk) 21:38, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
Who do Polish monarchists propose as a monarch? Does the party have a position? -- Error ( talk) 19:29, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Ahead of the 2023 Polish parliamentary election, they are considered the kingmakers. Bosak, one of Confederation's leaders, said: "Confederation has no intention of prolonging PiS's power or facilitating Tusk's return to power. The majority of our voters do not want this." Korwin-Mikke, a former member of the European Parliament who is running for the party from the Warsaw region in 2023, has a history of sexist statements about women. He said: "I am against voting rights for women. This is biology. A woman at the age of 55, when estrogen stops working, reaches the age when she can finally vote." Ryszard Zajączkowski, a university professor and one of the coalition's candidates, said that Poles were subjected to what he described as genocide "at the hands of Jews working together with communists" after World War II, and said that communism is worse than fascism. He said: "Compared to which the Auschwitz camp could be called a holiday camp."
this is the most blatant propaganda i have seen who here is working for pis
because this is a clear attept of pis to either smear tusk for potentially working with these guys(there are news articles LOOK for them) or an attept to scare their voters to vote for pis instead so that poland can have more bloted welfare and corruption
instead of decribing the political position of the party or party leaders it has butch of statements to make the party look bad because some candidates of the party(who don’t even lead it) said some edgy shuff
please someone remove this pis propaganda 193.210.196.102 ( talk) 17:38, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Mtonna257 ( talk) 11:52, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Hello I would like to edit this article, because of the local elections Olivier Pruchinski ( talk) 13:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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I want to update the amouut of members that Konfederacja has in the Sejmiki Wojewódzkie 2A02:6B6C:EC52:0:2571:1AB2:74E5:338C ( talk) 11:07, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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It is quite clear that the description is not right. I see many people before mentioned it ant it is not adjusted. 94.254.130.108 ( talk) 13:22, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Can someone explain why far-right not right-wing?See footnote 37, which is in the "Ideology and position" section and follows the statement "and it is positioned on the far right on the political spectrum". Robby.is.on ( talk) 13:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)