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It is said that Previous Commodores had only two cursor keys, which required using the shift key to move the cursor up or left.. This not true, as the computers of the 264-series (C16, Plus/4, and C116) had four cursor keys. Only VIC20 and C64 had 2 cursor keys. Leo72 ( talk) 20:51, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
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The phrase "previous commodores had only two cursor keys" was not correct, because it let mean that C16 & +4 had 2 cursor keys too but they instead had single cursor keys (for a number of 4). Fiexd. Leo72 ( talk) 09:39, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
@ MaxxFordham: You have changed predecessor=C64 to predecessor=Commodore Plus/4, 16, 116 and undid my revert of that. Why would you think that your edit improves the predecessor info.? Removing the C64 is ridiculous as it's by architecture and by compatibility the direct predecessor. The Plus/4, C16, C116 were a different line, not too similar in architecture, and entirely incompatible in software. With the same logic you could include VIC-20, PET 2001 and KIM-1 as predecessors. -- Zac67 ( talk) 20:10, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Introduced in January 1985 at the CES in Las Vegas, it appeared three years after its predecessor, the Commodore 64, the bestselling computer of the 1980sso if you want to change the infobox, you also need to change the body of the article. I'm all for discussing the nuances of computer hierarchy, but it happens while the original version of the article is in place, not with a disputed change. Chaheel Riens ( talk) 06:51, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
You seem to be doing a fine job already - with a few exceptions, such as here?
I've checked over the entire Amiga line, Vic-20, Commodore 64 and the Commodore Plus/4 articles, and all of them are now strictly linear (with some branching, especially for the Amiga) going Vic-20 -> C=64 -> C=128 - with the Amiga being treated as a separate line, and not appearing in the "successor/predecessor" parameter at all. Amiga is mentioned in the 64/128 articles, but not in the context of it being a direct successor - although I think it should be mentioned as a logical (not in the computing sense) successor.
Out of curiosity I also checked ZX Spectrum and Atari 8-bit family - those are slightly different in that the entire range is bunched up into a single article, so there is no linear successor, and as such the relevant infobox field does include the next generation ( QL and Atari ST respectively) instead.
I think it depends on the definition one uses of the term "predecessor" and "successor", From a family point of view, the successor to the C=64 is the C=128, but from a use point of view, the C=64's successor was most likely to be the Amiga. Few people -
I imagine - would have upgraded from a C=64 to a C=128 - most would have gone to a 16bit machine. The infobox help is equally vague, and just says Name of the device's predecessor/successor, if applicable.
PS: It's "Chaheel", not "Chahell". Chaheel Riens ( talk) 07:42, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
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It is said that Previous Commodores had only two cursor keys, which required using the shift key to move the cursor up or left.. This not true, as the computers of the 264-series (C16, Plus/4, and C116) had four cursor keys. Only VIC20 and C64 had 2 cursor keys. Leo72 ( talk) 20:51, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
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The phrase "previous commodores had only two cursor keys" was not correct, because it let mean that C16 & +4 had 2 cursor keys too but they instead had single cursor keys (for a number of 4). Fiexd. Leo72 ( talk) 09:39, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
@ MaxxFordham: You have changed predecessor=C64 to predecessor=Commodore Plus/4, 16, 116 and undid my revert of that. Why would you think that your edit improves the predecessor info.? Removing the C64 is ridiculous as it's by architecture and by compatibility the direct predecessor. The Plus/4, C16, C116 were a different line, not too similar in architecture, and entirely incompatible in software. With the same logic you could include VIC-20, PET 2001 and KIM-1 as predecessors. -- Zac67 ( talk) 20:10, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Introduced in January 1985 at the CES in Las Vegas, it appeared three years after its predecessor, the Commodore 64, the bestselling computer of the 1980sso if you want to change the infobox, you also need to change the body of the article. I'm all for discussing the nuances of computer hierarchy, but it happens while the original version of the article is in place, not with a disputed change. Chaheel Riens ( talk) 06:51, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
You seem to be doing a fine job already - with a few exceptions, such as here?
I've checked over the entire Amiga line, Vic-20, Commodore 64 and the Commodore Plus/4 articles, and all of them are now strictly linear (with some branching, especially for the Amiga) going Vic-20 -> C=64 -> C=128 - with the Amiga being treated as a separate line, and not appearing in the "successor/predecessor" parameter at all. Amiga is mentioned in the 64/128 articles, but not in the context of it being a direct successor - although I think it should be mentioned as a logical (not in the computing sense) successor.
Out of curiosity I also checked ZX Spectrum and Atari 8-bit family - those are slightly different in that the entire range is bunched up into a single article, so there is no linear successor, and as such the relevant infobox field does include the next generation ( QL and Atari ST respectively) instead.
I think it depends on the definition one uses of the term "predecessor" and "successor", From a family point of view, the successor to the C=64 is the C=128, but from a use point of view, the C=64's successor was most likely to be the Amiga. Few people -
I imagine - would have upgraded from a C=64 to a C=128 - most would have gone to a 16bit machine. The infobox help is equally vague, and just says Name of the device's predecessor/successor, if applicable.
PS: It's "Chaheel", not "Chahell". Chaheel Riens ( talk) 07:42, 29 September 2023 (UTC)