This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Comet (TV network) article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
This article links to one or more target anchors that no longer exist.
Please help fix the broken anchors. You can remove this template after fixing the problems. |
Reporting errors |
There's a lot of good information here, but too much of it is contained within excessively long sentences. The use of parenthetical statements is also a bit much. Of particular concern:
"Although Sinclair Television Group and MGM would jointly own the channel, most of the network's operations – including programming – would be handled by MGM, in an arrangement more expansive than the responsibilities it maintains for the company's existing multicast network joint ventures This TV and The Works (for those networks, MGM mainly provides programming content and handles national distribution)."
"The network is the first national multi-casting venture by Sinclair Broadcast Group, which began leveraging its expansive national station reach (at the time of the announcement, Sinclair operated 162 television stations in 79 markets, the most of any U.S. broadcaster, many of which are run under local marketing and shared services agreements with a station that the group owns outright) by owning more of its content, through the acquisition of the Ring of Honor wrestling promotion in 2011, and later with the 2014 launch of the American Sports Network syndication service and an investment/development deal with The Tornante Company (owned by former Walt Disney Company CEO Michael Eisner) that was announced concurrently with the formation of Comet."
"Comet relies on programming that is sourced from the extensive library of films and television programming owned by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer and subsidiary United Artists (with the notable exclusions of MGM's library of film and television series made prior to May 1986, the Associated Artists Productions (a.a.p.) library, and the U.S. rights to the RKO Pictures library, whose rights are currently held by Time Warner through its Turner Entertainment subsidiary), carrying more than 1,500 hours worth of programming from the studio."
"Several Sinclair stations are using Comet to replace ZUUS Country on a subchannel carrying the country music video network (continuing a phaseout of the network on Sinclair's television stations that began in January 2015, when the group began its affiliation agreement with Katz Broadcasting-owned Grit); as is already done by some Sinclair stations with their subchannels, the Comet-affiliated subchannel will likely carry sports events from the American Sports Network during prime time under local scheduling to avert network programming pre-emptions on the parent station's main channel in markets where it is carried by a station operated by Sinclair or another broadcaster which acts as an ASN broadcast partner."
Gmporr ( talk) 00:40, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Agreed — just made some edits to try and help with this but it still needs some work. The Sinclair bits in particular are rambly and borderline tangential.
Withdrawretreat (
talk)
03:56, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
MGM partnership the more I look into it doesn't seem to be an ownership stake.
So, at this point, the article will be changed unless any other source can show definitive that MGM is an owner. Spshu ( talk) 17:11, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
@ Electricburst1996:, You demanded that I be consistent with my stance at LAFF. Now you are being inconsistent by removing a PRIMARY source because you decided it isn't sufficient then attack me for removing other primary sourced information. WP:BURDEN shifts to you to properly source the information before it is returned. Spshu ( talk) 17:25, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
@ Oknazevad:, can you explain how this the list of programs is violating NOTDIRECTORY. I have attempt to keep it from doing so by only providing those that are in non-primary source (see above regarding sourcing). Thus program listing - given mostly secondary reliable news sources - thus follows NOTDIR "mention of major events, promotions or historically significant program lists and schedules may be acceptable." I do see some primary sources did slip in. Thus, if you agree to return the program list that those cited by primary sources be removed, except for the initial show (non-infomercial; if that is only source by primary source) as that seems a bit significance.
@ Mrschimpf:, sorry to reverse you, but a) it was unsourced and b) resolving the directory issue should restore the source for MST3K. So, I suggest you join the discussion. Spshu ( talk) 16:17, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Comet (TV network) article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
This article links to one or more target anchors that no longer exist.
Please help fix the broken anchors. You can remove this template after fixing the problems. |
Reporting errors |
There's a lot of good information here, but too much of it is contained within excessively long sentences. The use of parenthetical statements is also a bit much. Of particular concern:
"Although Sinclair Television Group and MGM would jointly own the channel, most of the network's operations – including programming – would be handled by MGM, in an arrangement more expansive than the responsibilities it maintains for the company's existing multicast network joint ventures This TV and The Works (for those networks, MGM mainly provides programming content and handles national distribution)."
"The network is the first national multi-casting venture by Sinclair Broadcast Group, which began leveraging its expansive national station reach (at the time of the announcement, Sinclair operated 162 television stations in 79 markets, the most of any U.S. broadcaster, many of which are run under local marketing and shared services agreements with a station that the group owns outright) by owning more of its content, through the acquisition of the Ring of Honor wrestling promotion in 2011, and later with the 2014 launch of the American Sports Network syndication service and an investment/development deal with The Tornante Company (owned by former Walt Disney Company CEO Michael Eisner) that was announced concurrently with the formation of Comet."
"Comet relies on programming that is sourced from the extensive library of films and television programming owned by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer and subsidiary United Artists (with the notable exclusions of MGM's library of film and television series made prior to May 1986, the Associated Artists Productions (a.a.p.) library, and the U.S. rights to the RKO Pictures library, whose rights are currently held by Time Warner through its Turner Entertainment subsidiary), carrying more than 1,500 hours worth of programming from the studio."
"Several Sinclair stations are using Comet to replace ZUUS Country on a subchannel carrying the country music video network (continuing a phaseout of the network on Sinclair's television stations that began in January 2015, when the group began its affiliation agreement with Katz Broadcasting-owned Grit); as is already done by some Sinclair stations with their subchannels, the Comet-affiliated subchannel will likely carry sports events from the American Sports Network during prime time under local scheduling to avert network programming pre-emptions on the parent station's main channel in markets where it is carried by a station operated by Sinclair or another broadcaster which acts as an ASN broadcast partner."
Gmporr ( talk) 00:40, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Agreed — just made some edits to try and help with this but it still needs some work. The Sinclair bits in particular are rambly and borderline tangential.
Withdrawretreat (
talk)
03:56, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
MGM partnership the more I look into it doesn't seem to be an ownership stake.
So, at this point, the article will be changed unless any other source can show definitive that MGM is an owner. Spshu ( talk) 17:11, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
@ Electricburst1996:, You demanded that I be consistent with my stance at LAFF. Now you are being inconsistent by removing a PRIMARY source because you decided it isn't sufficient then attack me for removing other primary sourced information. WP:BURDEN shifts to you to properly source the information before it is returned. Spshu ( talk) 17:25, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
@ Oknazevad:, can you explain how this the list of programs is violating NOTDIRECTORY. I have attempt to keep it from doing so by only providing those that are in non-primary source (see above regarding sourcing). Thus program listing - given mostly secondary reliable news sources - thus follows NOTDIR "mention of major events, promotions or historically significant program lists and schedules may be acceptable." I do see some primary sources did slip in. Thus, if you agree to return the program list that those cited by primary sources be removed, except for the initial show (non-infomercial; if that is only source by primary source) as that seems a bit significance.
@ Mrschimpf:, sorry to reverse you, but a) it was unsourced and b) resolving the directory issue should restore the source for MST3K. So, I suggest you join the discussion. Spshu ( talk) 16:17, 15 September 2016 (UTC)