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I don't see any reason to add players to the roster or to the incoming transfers section until the transfer has been confirmed by either the player or one of the clubs involved. Feel free to let me know if you disagree. MitchStein 21:24, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Anyone have any objections to going back to the old roster template that was being used? The roster right now looks really messy and disorganized. MichaelBlankley ( talk) 18:41, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
"Roster"? It's called a "squad". Guv2006 ( talk) 00:55, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
As some may know I am a huge Columbus Crew fan, anyway I have herd of Legion 04 and the V-Army but Fort Knox fan club only has about 10 people, do we really need this or should we delete it? TheCrew29
I edited the supporters section to compensate for the changes being made for the 2007 season. MichaelBlankley 03:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
What is up with this sentance: "Historically, the team has had three major supporters' groups: Legion 04 and the V-Army." Shouldn't it be "two major supporters' groups". Adtroy 19:19, 22 April 2007 (UTC) Got it, now it's two.
Do we really need Union 103? the fan club only has about 10 people, should we delete?
We have more members than 10, thank you. And we are one of the two main groups, so I think it should definitely stay in the article. Please sign your posts, as well. MichaelBlankley ( talk) 21:01, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Can we get a history section started? Kingjeff 04:18, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
A history section would be good, their the only team in mls here without that section. ( 68.199.35.102 22:33, 26 March 2007 (UTC))
It's in progress now. I'm not going to post it until it's finished for fear that someone will delete it. Hopefully It'll be up before Christmas. MichaelBlankley ( talk) 21:01, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I've added a very brief history section. Hopefully, someone with more time can expand on it and add citations. MitchStein ( talk) 08:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I made a number of necessary edits to the article's second paragraph. First I updated the number of trophies the Crew have won from three to four. Then I improved the paragraph's syntax and made the paragraph less about the Los Angeles Galaxy and more about the Crew. -- Zipsix ( talk) 13:55, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Who is Karry Shreeve? I cannot find any information about him anywhere.
Jshecket 16:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I googled the name and came up with absolutely nothing. I think we should go ahead and delete it.
MichaelBlankley 22:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Why is Frankie Hejduk listed as a former player?
MichaelBlankley 23:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Somebody probably added him to the former player list when he was briefly out of contract this past offseason and then was never deleted from the list.
MitchStein 21:27, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Should we perhaps add Nick Theslof to this list? He is currently an assistant coach at Bayern Munich, which is pretty famous, and was signed by the Crew, though I do not think he appeared in a game outside of the preseason (I know he played for the Crew as I own his jersey)--kgilbert78
134.243.211.185 (
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The official first kit of the Crew is black-black-black and the alternate is gold-gold-gold. The mixed kits are a relatively new thing, but the team still lists the solid kits as official. I've changed this. MichaelBlankley 22:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Is this article aimed at children so a proper phonetic notation cannot be used or are American people just too stupid to understand the IPA? 85.177.0.145 ( talk) 00:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Your club doesn't yet have a 2009 Season article, we are hoping to get each of the MLS teams up and going like these; Sounders, Fire, Dynamo, Wizards, and TFC. If you have any questions or concerns feel free to contact me at anytime. Thanks Morry32 ( talk) 01:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Some of the information in that section seems pretty questionable to me. I added the 'citation needed' tags to a few of those statements. If they can't be verified by a credible source then I'll delete them. MitchStein ( talk) 00:07, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Actually, after reviewing the edit history and finding that all of the questionable claims were made by anonymous users with Canadian IP addresses I just replaced the uncited information with a much more general description. If anybody wants to add more specific details then cite your sources, but I would question whether any further detail is even necessary. MitchStein ( talk) 00:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
It seems weird, but the official Crew roster page states that Sergio Herrera has been given the number "0". I edited it the roster on Wiki to have him as #0, but I haven't been able to find other evidence of it as #0. But hey, if the official roster says #0, then it must be true. Can anyone else find other support for this? Thanks. Acmilan10italia ( talk) 02:36, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
MLSnet.com will often list a new incoming player as #0. No player is ever registered as such. Ignore any listings of #0. 82.19.17.200 ( talk) 18:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Talk:New York Red Bulls#conference champions
just adding a link to a centralized discussion on division champions conventions. Please post comments there.
Nlsanand ( talk) 03:54, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
There was a discussion about the new roster format and we have had a trial at both the Timbers and Whitecaps articles and recently Cascadia Cup rival Sounders have converted. The idea is to move all club articles on Wikipedia to the new format as is discussed in the original discussion and more recently at the football project.
My suggestion is to complete the MLS team articles first, so if you could respond at this discussion, that would be ideal. In short, the new layout is slightly taller and less wide, but it correctly impliments WP:MOSFLAG and is better for visually impared users of Wikipedia and others who use readers. I plan to implement the change to this article by the weekend of January 20-22, however other editors could make the change sooner. -- Walter Görlitz ( talk) 17:52, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
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I have recently brought up the need to differentiate between "Columbus Crew" and "Columbus Crew SC" in the infobox of Crew players. I believe that there is a need for consensus going forward regarding which term is to be used in the articles and infoboxes for players that have played for the club, from 2015 onward. I do not intend to dispute the term for players that only played for the club before 2014, as "Columbus Crew" would be the only appropriate term. I argue that those players that have played for the club from 2015 onward should have "Columbus Crew SC" in their infobox rather than "Columbus Crew."
First and foremost, I believe it is important to differentiate the name change for players that have played for the club during two separate stints, both before and after the name change was made. Two examples of this are Kei Kamara and Dilly Duka. It would be more technically correct to say that they played for "Columbus Crew SC" if they have played for the club after the name change, while still preserving the old name for when they were playing before the name change.
It has also been argued that lengthening the club name by adding the "SC" on the end would be a violation of Wikipedia:Piped link. I do not believe that this constitutes a violation of piping. The policy clearly states to "Avoid making links longer THAN NECESSARY (my emphasis)." I have already detailed why I believe the change is necessary above, but there are other reasons I believe it is necessary.
There is also the argument that the addition of "SC" is non-notable and merely reflects something that should be shortened, such as Manchester United FC being Shortened to Manchester United. There are, however, instances where the FC remains in most articles about the team, such as Toronto FC. Since I believe that the differentiation is necessary for differentiating the time period that the players played for the club, as well as reflecting the entire change made for the name, I do not believe this is a non-notable change.
Other clubs in Major League Soccer have changed their names, and this is reflected by the different names used in the infoboxes for players that played for the club across different times. See players that have played for San Jose Clash/Earthquakes, Sporting KC vs. Kansas City Wizards, Los Angeles Galaxy vs. LA Galaxy, Dallas Burn vs. FC Dallas, etc. Columbus Crew SC instituted a name change, and I don't see why this is necessarily different.
There is also a matter of how the club is referred to colloquially. Before the name change, it was common practice to refer to the club as "the Columbus Crew." However, since the name change it is just as common, if not more so, to refer to the club as "Crew SC." This is both true from a fan perspective and from a media perspective. This further emphasizes that the club is being referred to as "Columbus Crew SC," and I argue that it should be written in its entirety for players that played for the club from 2015 onward.
I don't think this is a non-negligible change. I think this helps reflect the change made by the club itself and that it would be more proper to use the newer name than the out-of-date name. Not only is it much less common in official channels, "Columbus Crew" is also less common colloquially. If other clubs have their name-changes reflected, and Toronto FC can be an exception, why shouldn't Columbus have this exception as well? Jay eyem ( talk) 19:12, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
@ 21.colinthompson: I'm pinging you for a semi-related reason to this. Not sure if you've read my unnecessarily lengthy post, but you don't need to. I noticed that you made some changes in the infobox for a lot of players that were with Columbus until the end of the 2014 season (e.g. Fifi Baiden) with the name "Columbus Crew SC" rather than "Columbus Crew." Even though the club's name was changed early October 2014, the team wasn't referred to as "Columbus Crew SC" with any consistency until the 2015 season. Wanted to hear your thoughts on that. Cheers. Jay eyem ( talk) 14:02, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
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I wanted to leave a discussion concerning Columbus Crew relocating to Austin, TX. With the city of Columbus and Precourt Sport Ventures being in a standstill, it seems that the move will be most likely. I don't think I will be active in Wiki for long. I want to leave this here to encourage for a plan that will be used should the team actually moves. I would like for there to be an article of the Columbus Crew and its history including an infobox of the team as if the club is still active but isn't. Similar to Chivas USA and the NFL teams that has a history where the team had moved to a different city such as the San Diego Chargers and the St Louis Rams and the Baltimore Colts to name a few.
Colombus Crew is a club that had competed since day one in MLS. It has history and traditions along with a Legacy. For that, I think it would be appropriate for that to be shown here as well with having a separate article of the team be here if they move to Austin. I really hope that can happen. Thank you all. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluhaze777 ( talk • contribs) 18:28, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
People are going to want to change the owner to Jimmy Haslam, however, reports currently show that they are still in negotiations. I think we should put a semi-protected barrier on the article. Bkellar ( talk) 21:34, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
I really see no problem with having a subheading for the proposed relocation for the team, given that there is an especially high volume of coverage for that compared to other aspects of his ownership. However, there does need to be a subheading for the rest of the content, or at least part of it. Doesn't make tons of sense to just have the one subheading. Jay eyem ( talk) 02:07, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
This issue seems to happen all the time in pro sports articles that there is confusion between the team and the organization. If we're talking about the team, it's the coach's era; if we're talking about the organization, then it's the owner's or CEO's (in this case "operator-investor") era. We now have the coach's era as a subheading of the owner's era, but we also have an era defined by a single player. It seems to me these emphases are WP:POV and we need a more objective way of defining periods of time. Jack N. Stock ( talk) 13:47, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Looks like the team is re-branding. Move to Columbus SC? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 19:40, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
The name going forward is "Columbus Crew" with no SC at the end.
Sources:
Anyone disagree with the move or protection request? ColeTrain4EVER ( talk) 03:40, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: MOVE the only opposition has requested a snow close. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 15:38, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Columbus Crew SC → Columbus Crew – Yesterday, the Crew announced that they were reverting back to their traditional name, with the Columbus Dispatch, SoccerAmerica and The Atlhletic reporting that they had also abandoned the "SC" part, and the team's updated logo showing no signs of an "SC". Combine all these things with the fact that "Columbus Crew" is by far the team's WP:COMMONNAME even when the SC was around, and I think the move is a pretty clear case (one user had it move-protected because he wanted a proper discussion with proper consensus). Tom Danson ( talk) 16:41, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
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I don't see any reason to add players to the roster or to the incoming transfers section until the transfer has been confirmed by either the player or one of the clubs involved. Feel free to let me know if you disagree. MitchStein 21:24, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Anyone have any objections to going back to the old roster template that was being used? The roster right now looks really messy and disorganized. MichaelBlankley ( talk) 18:41, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
"Roster"? It's called a "squad". Guv2006 ( talk) 00:55, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
As some may know I am a huge Columbus Crew fan, anyway I have herd of Legion 04 and the V-Army but Fort Knox fan club only has about 10 people, do we really need this or should we delete it? TheCrew29
I edited the supporters section to compensate for the changes being made for the 2007 season. MichaelBlankley 03:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
What is up with this sentance: "Historically, the team has had three major supporters' groups: Legion 04 and the V-Army." Shouldn't it be "two major supporters' groups". Adtroy 19:19, 22 April 2007 (UTC) Got it, now it's two.
Do we really need Union 103? the fan club only has about 10 people, should we delete?
We have more members than 10, thank you. And we are one of the two main groups, so I think it should definitely stay in the article. Please sign your posts, as well. MichaelBlankley ( talk) 21:01, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Can we get a history section started? Kingjeff 04:18, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
A history section would be good, their the only team in mls here without that section. ( 68.199.35.102 22:33, 26 March 2007 (UTC))
It's in progress now. I'm not going to post it until it's finished for fear that someone will delete it. Hopefully It'll be up before Christmas. MichaelBlankley ( talk) 21:01, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I've added a very brief history section. Hopefully, someone with more time can expand on it and add citations. MitchStein ( talk) 08:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I made a number of necessary edits to the article's second paragraph. First I updated the number of trophies the Crew have won from three to four. Then I improved the paragraph's syntax and made the paragraph less about the Los Angeles Galaxy and more about the Crew. -- Zipsix ( talk) 13:55, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Who is Karry Shreeve? I cannot find any information about him anywhere.
Jshecket 16:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I googled the name and came up with absolutely nothing. I think we should go ahead and delete it.
MichaelBlankley 22:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Why is Frankie Hejduk listed as a former player?
MichaelBlankley 23:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Somebody probably added him to the former player list when he was briefly out of contract this past offseason and then was never deleted from the list.
MitchStein 21:27, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Should we perhaps add Nick Theslof to this list? He is currently an assistant coach at Bayern Munich, which is pretty famous, and was signed by the Crew, though I do not think he appeared in a game outside of the preseason (I know he played for the Crew as I own his jersey)--kgilbert78
134.243.211.185 (
talk) 21:07, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
The official first kit of the Crew is black-black-black and the alternate is gold-gold-gold. The mixed kits are a relatively new thing, but the team still lists the solid kits as official. I've changed this. MichaelBlankley 22:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Is this article aimed at children so a proper phonetic notation cannot be used or are American people just too stupid to understand the IPA? 85.177.0.145 ( talk) 00:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Your club doesn't yet have a 2009 Season article, we are hoping to get each of the MLS teams up and going like these; Sounders, Fire, Dynamo, Wizards, and TFC. If you have any questions or concerns feel free to contact me at anytime. Thanks Morry32 ( talk) 01:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Some of the information in that section seems pretty questionable to me. I added the 'citation needed' tags to a few of those statements. If they can't be verified by a credible source then I'll delete them. MitchStein ( talk) 00:07, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Actually, after reviewing the edit history and finding that all of the questionable claims were made by anonymous users with Canadian IP addresses I just replaced the uncited information with a much more general description. If anybody wants to add more specific details then cite your sources, but I would question whether any further detail is even necessary. MitchStein ( talk) 00:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
It seems weird, but the official Crew roster page states that Sergio Herrera has been given the number "0". I edited it the roster on Wiki to have him as #0, but I haven't been able to find other evidence of it as #0. But hey, if the official roster says #0, then it must be true. Can anyone else find other support for this? Thanks. Acmilan10italia ( talk) 02:36, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
MLSnet.com will often list a new incoming player as #0. No player is ever registered as such. Ignore any listings of #0. 82.19.17.200 ( talk) 18:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Talk:New York Red Bulls#conference champions
just adding a link to a centralized discussion on division champions conventions. Please post comments there.
Nlsanand ( talk) 03:54, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
There was a discussion about the new roster format and we have had a trial at both the Timbers and Whitecaps articles and recently Cascadia Cup rival Sounders have converted. The idea is to move all club articles on Wikipedia to the new format as is discussed in the original discussion and more recently at the football project.
My suggestion is to complete the MLS team articles first, so if you could respond at this discussion, that would be ideal. In short, the new layout is slightly taller and less wide, but it correctly impliments WP:MOSFLAG and is better for visually impared users of Wikipedia and others who use readers. I plan to implement the change to this article by the weekend of January 20-22, however other editors could make the change sooner. -- Walter Görlitz ( talk) 17:52, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
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I have recently brought up the need to differentiate between "Columbus Crew" and "Columbus Crew SC" in the infobox of Crew players. I believe that there is a need for consensus going forward regarding which term is to be used in the articles and infoboxes for players that have played for the club, from 2015 onward. I do not intend to dispute the term for players that only played for the club before 2014, as "Columbus Crew" would be the only appropriate term. I argue that those players that have played for the club from 2015 onward should have "Columbus Crew SC" in their infobox rather than "Columbus Crew."
First and foremost, I believe it is important to differentiate the name change for players that have played for the club during two separate stints, both before and after the name change was made. Two examples of this are Kei Kamara and Dilly Duka. It would be more technically correct to say that they played for "Columbus Crew SC" if they have played for the club after the name change, while still preserving the old name for when they were playing before the name change.
It has also been argued that lengthening the club name by adding the "SC" on the end would be a violation of Wikipedia:Piped link. I do not believe that this constitutes a violation of piping. The policy clearly states to "Avoid making links longer THAN NECESSARY (my emphasis)." I have already detailed why I believe the change is necessary above, but there are other reasons I believe it is necessary.
There is also the argument that the addition of "SC" is non-notable and merely reflects something that should be shortened, such as Manchester United FC being Shortened to Manchester United. There are, however, instances where the FC remains in most articles about the team, such as Toronto FC. Since I believe that the differentiation is necessary for differentiating the time period that the players played for the club, as well as reflecting the entire change made for the name, I do not believe this is a non-notable change.
Other clubs in Major League Soccer have changed their names, and this is reflected by the different names used in the infoboxes for players that played for the club across different times. See players that have played for San Jose Clash/Earthquakes, Sporting KC vs. Kansas City Wizards, Los Angeles Galaxy vs. LA Galaxy, Dallas Burn vs. FC Dallas, etc. Columbus Crew SC instituted a name change, and I don't see why this is necessarily different.
There is also a matter of how the club is referred to colloquially. Before the name change, it was common practice to refer to the club as "the Columbus Crew." However, since the name change it is just as common, if not more so, to refer to the club as "Crew SC." This is both true from a fan perspective and from a media perspective. This further emphasizes that the club is being referred to as "Columbus Crew SC," and I argue that it should be written in its entirety for players that played for the club from 2015 onward.
I don't think this is a non-negligible change. I think this helps reflect the change made by the club itself and that it would be more proper to use the newer name than the out-of-date name. Not only is it much less common in official channels, "Columbus Crew" is also less common colloquially. If other clubs have their name-changes reflected, and Toronto FC can be an exception, why shouldn't Columbus have this exception as well? Jay eyem ( talk) 19:12, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
@ 21.colinthompson: I'm pinging you for a semi-related reason to this. Not sure if you've read my unnecessarily lengthy post, but you don't need to. I noticed that you made some changes in the infobox for a lot of players that were with Columbus until the end of the 2014 season (e.g. Fifi Baiden) with the name "Columbus Crew SC" rather than "Columbus Crew." Even though the club's name was changed early October 2014, the team wasn't referred to as "Columbus Crew SC" with any consistency until the 2015 season. Wanted to hear your thoughts on that. Cheers. Jay eyem ( talk) 14:02, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
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I wanted to leave a discussion concerning Columbus Crew relocating to Austin, TX. With the city of Columbus and Precourt Sport Ventures being in a standstill, it seems that the move will be most likely. I don't think I will be active in Wiki for long. I want to leave this here to encourage for a plan that will be used should the team actually moves. I would like for there to be an article of the Columbus Crew and its history including an infobox of the team as if the club is still active but isn't. Similar to Chivas USA and the NFL teams that has a history where the team had moved to a different city such as the San Diego Chargers and the St Louis Rams and the Baltimore Colts to name a few.
Colombus Crew is a club that had competed since day one in MLS. It has history and traditions along with a Legacy. For that, I think it would be appropriate for that to be shown here as well with having a separate article of the team be here if they move to Austin. I really hope that can happen. Thank you all. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluhaze777 ( talk • contribs) 18:28, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
People are going to want to change the owner to Jimmy Haslam, however, reports currently show that they are still in negotiations. I think we should put a semi-protected barrier on the article. Bkellar ( talk) 21:34, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
I really see no problem with having a subheading for the proposed relocation for the team, given that there is an especially high volume of coverage for that compared to other aspects of his ownership. However, there does need to be a subheading for the rest of the content, or at least part of it. Doesn't make tons of sense to just have the one subheading. Jay eyem ( talk) 02:07, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
This issue seems to happen all the time in pro sports articles that there is confusion between the team and the organization. If we're talking about the team, it's the coach's era; if we're talking about the organization, then it's the owner's or CEO's (in this case "operator-investor") era. We now have the coach's era as a subheading of the owner's era, but we also have an era defined by a single player. It seems to me these emphases are WP:POV and we need a more objective way of defining periods of time. Jack N. Stock ( talk) 13:47, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Looks like the team is re-branding. Move to Columbus SC? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 19:40, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
The name going forward is "Columbus Crew" with no SC at the end.
Sources:
Anyone disagree with the move or protection request? ColeTrain4EVER ( talk) 03:40, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: MOVE the only opposition has requested a snow close. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 15:38, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Columbus Crew SC → Columbus Crew – Yesterday, the Crew announced that they were reverting back to their traditional name, with the Columbus Dispatch, SoccerAmerica and The Atlhletic reporting that they had also abandoned the "SC" part, and the team's updated logo showing no signs of an "SC". Combine all these things with the fact that "Columbus Crew" is by far the team's WP:COMMONNAME even when the SC was around, and I think the move is a pretty clear case (one user had it move-protected because he wanted a proper discussion with proper consensus). Tom Danson ( talk) 16:41, 19 May 2021 (UTC)