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The "Support" and "Criticism" sections make for a bad article structure. Such a back-and-forth between proponents and opponents unfortunately doesn't offer any clue as to the relative weight that these positions hold. Any help finding sources that put these views in context would be appreciated. — Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 05:10, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
"Support" and "Criticism" also rely on citations to supporters and critics, rather than disinterested secondary and tertiary sources, raising WP:WEIGHT concerns. -- Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 00:11, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Seems like a pretty egregious violation of WP:NPOV to have a "Criticism" section that is more than twice as long as any other section of the article. The "Support" section has a single dismissive line noting that multiple US presidents have supported the idea, while giving multiple paragraphs to obscure sociologists and their theories, in a section that is already comically bloated. That reeks of POV to me. BUZZLIGHTYEAR99 ( talk) 02:48, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
The article could say more about whether color-blindness (of the kind that specifically excludes class-blindness and economic-conditions-blindness) remains a valid goal for the future, even though you acknowledge that today's society is anything but color-blind. Also it could say more about whether cultures with a lot higher proportion of interracial couples and bi- or multi-racial children than the US fare better in this regard. Also whether cultures where no racial group ever mass-enslaved another group fare better. -- 91.63.148.93 ( talk) 13:03, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
This article urgently needs a decent section on the history of this concept. For example, it does not mention Wendell Phillips, who was the first person to make the phrase popular, in the context of arguing for abolition. It would be really helpful to hear what role this idea played in the civil rights movement, etc. What about Thurgood Marshall? Doric Loon ( talk) 18:15, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
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The "Support" and "Criticism" sections make for a bad article structure. Such a back-and-forth between proponents and opponents unfortunately doesn't offer any clue as to the relative weight that these positions hold. Any help finding sources that put these views in context would be appreciated. — Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 05:10, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
"Support" and "Criticism" also rely on citations to supporters and critics, rather than disinterested secondary and tertiary sources, raising WP:WEIGHT concerns. -- Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 00:11, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Seems like a pretty egregious violation of WP:NPOV to have a "Criticism" section that is more than twice as long as any other section of the article. The "Support" section has a single dismissive line noting that multiple US presidents have supported the idea, while giving multiple paragraphs to obscure sociologists and their theories, in a section that is already comically bloated. That reeks of POV to me. BUZZLIGHTYEAR99 ( talk) 02:48, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
The article could say more about whether color-blindness (of the kind that specifically excludes class-blindness and economic-conditions-blindness) remains a valid goal for the future, even though you acknowledge that today's society is anything but color-blind. Also it could say more about whether cultures with a lot higher proportion of interracial couples and bi- or multi-racial children than the US fare better in this regard. Also whether cultures where no racial group ever mass-enslaved another group fare better. -- 91.63.148.93 ( talk) 13:03, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
This article urgently needs a decent section on the history of this concept. For example, it does not mention Wendell Phillips, who was the first person to make the phrase popular, in the context of arguing for abolition. It would be really helpful to hear what role this idea played in the civil rights movement, etc. What about Thurgood Marshall? Doric Loon ( talk) 18:15, 9 October 2023 (UTC)