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I removed the note "posthumously, (1172-1155)" which stood after Boris' name since he couldn't have been born in 1172 when his father died in 1116. Also, I don't remember he was born after his father's death. As far as I know Kálmán thought Boris is not his son b/c Euphemia cheated on him, but I'm not sure, if someone knows better, please correct the article. Alensha 20:48, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Isn't Librophile latin for Book-lover? George Adam Horváth ( talk) 21:57, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Bizso deleted refrence! Coloman of Hungary was King of Slavonia, Croatia and Dalmatia from 1108 see Southeastern Europe in the Middle Ages (Cambridge University Press) [1]
Also see: [2]
-- Dvatel ( talk) 22:29, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Here [3] -- Dvatel ( talk) 22:52, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Hello Bizso, hello Dvatel.. did you know that Colomans was elder son of Géza I of Hungary and Sophia (sister of croatian king Dmitar Zvonimir)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.139.53.181 ( talk) 14:50, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but I try to understand what is happening here? For years, there was a consensual approach with regard to the medieval kings of Hungary who ruled after Ladislaus I: among their several titles only two titles were added King of Hungary and King of Croatia in the article. I think this was a realistic approach, because after 1097 (or 1102, or 1108 it is debated) the kings of Hungary were also kings of Croatia, that is they ruled over another kingdom which had earlier been existing as an independent state for centuries. Although the kings of Hungary also used the title "king of Slavonia, Dalmatia, Rama, Serbia, Bulgaria, Cumania, Halych and Lodomeria", but these realms' case totally different from the case of Croatia: Slavonia, Dalmatia were only provinces of other kingdoms; Rama and Cumania never existed as independent political entities (Rama is an alternative name for some parts of Bosnia, Cumania referred to territories inhabited by Cuman tribes who accepted the overlordship of the king of Hungary); Serbia, Bulgaria, Halych and Lodomeria were independent countries whose rulers sometimes accepted the overlordship of the king of Hungary. At the end of the day, I suggest that we should not refer to all the titles of the kings of Hungary (because before the 14th century they had been changing year by year), and we should only refer to their two most important titles: king of Hungary and king of Croatia. E.g., the kings of England used the title "king of France" from about 1337 until cca. 1553, but articles describing their life do not mention this. Borsoka ( talk) 18:09, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
-- 78.1.155.138 ( talk) 17:50, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Is it an important information that "it is possible that the first possible voivode of Transylvania was mentioned in Coloman's reign"? :) Borsoka ( talk) 15:00, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Dear Surtsicna, would you please specify why do you think that the deletion of his titles adds value to this article? Borsoka ( talk) 17:14, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Dear Surtsicna, I suggest you should read the articles before editing the infoboxes. Coloman occupied Dalmatia and only thereafter adopted the title of king of Dalmatia. Borsoka ( talk) 17:24, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Oh, and about Sophia - I wanted to include a reference, but could not bring myself to mess up the perfect citation system you introduced into this article. I hope you will nominate it for GA soon! Anyway, shouldn't the Looz theory be mentioned somewhere (along with alternative explanations, if any)? I see that the article about Géza says nothing about it either. I wouldn't be surprised if an article explained the origin of the subject's parent. Surtsicna ( talk) 18:15, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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3family6, thank for your review. I fixed the citation. However, I am not an expert in the field of US copyright laws, so I cannot fix the issue regarding the pictures' copyright position in the US. Borsoka ( talk) 06:38, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Eurocentral, would you please refer to the academic work (author, title, publisher, page number) which states that the episode you deleted here [13] is connected to the First Crusade (as you claimed in the edit summary)?
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I removed the note "posthumously, (1172-1155)" which stood after Boris' name since he couldn't have been born in 1172 when his father died in 1116. Also, I don't remember he was born after his father's death. As far as I know Kálmán thought Boris is not his son b/c Euphemia cheated on him, but I'm not sure, if someone knows better, please correct the article. Alensha 20:48, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Isn't Librophile latin for Book-lover? George Adam Horváth ( talk) 21:57, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Bizso deleted refrence! Coloman of Hungary was King of Slavonia, Croatia and Dalmatia from 1108 see Southeastern Europe in the Middle Ages (Cambridge University Press) [1]
Also see: [2]
-- Dvatel ( talk) 22:29, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Here [3] -- Dvatel ( talk) 22:52, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Hello Bizso, hello Dvatel.. did you know that Colomans was elder son of Géza I of Hungary and Sophia (sister of croatian king Dmitar Zvonimir)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.139.53.181 ( talk) 14:50, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but I try to understand what is happening here? For years, there was a consensual approach with regard to the medieval kings of Hungary who ruled after Ladislaus I: among their several titles only two titles were added King of Hungary and King of Croatia in the article. I think this was a realistic approach, because after 1097 (or 1102, or 1108 it is debated) the kings of Hungary were also kings of Croatia, that is they ruled over another kingdom which had earlier been existing as an independent state for centuries. Although the kings of Hungary also used the title "king of Slavonia, Dalmatia, Rama, Serbia, Bulgaria, Cumania, Halych and Lodomeria", but these realms' case totally different from the case of Croatia: Slavonia, Dalmatia were only provinces of other kingdoms; Rama and Cumania never existed as independent political entities (Rama is an alternative name for some parts of Bosnia, Cumania referred to territories inhabited by Cuman tribes who accepted the overlordship of the king of Hungary); Serbia, Bulgaria, Halych and Lodomeria were independent countries whose rulers sometimes accepted the overlordship of the king of Hungary. At the end of the day, I suggest that we should not refer to all the titles of the kings of Hungary (because before the 14th century they had been changing year by year), and we should only refer to their two most important titles: king of Hungary and king of Croatia. E.g., the kings of England used the title "king of France" from about 1337 until cca. 1553, but articles describing their life do not mention this. Borsoka ( talk) 18:09, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
-- 78.1.155.138 ( talk) 17:50, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Is it an important information that "it is possible that the first possible voivode of Transylvania was mentioned in Coloman's reign"? :) Borsoka ( talk) 15:00, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Dear Surtsicna, would you please specify why do you think that the deletion of his titles adds value to this article? Borsoka ( talk) 17:14, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Dear Surtsicna, I suggest you should read the articles before editing the infoboxes. Coloman occupied Dalmatia and only thereafter adopted the title of king of Dalmatia. Borsoka ( talk) 17:24, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Oh, and about Sophia - I wanted to include a reference, but could not bring myself to mess up the perfect citation system you introduced into this article. I hope you will nominate it for GA soon! Anyway, shouldn't the Looz theory be mentioned somewhere (along with alternative explanations, if any)? I see that the article about Géza says nothing about it either. I wouldn't be surprised if an article explained the origin of the subject's parent. Surtsicna ( talk) 18:15, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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3family6, thank for your review. I fixed the citation. However, I am not an expert in the field of US copyright laws, so I cannot fix the issue regarding the pictures' copyright position in the US. Borsoka ( talk) 06:38, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Eurocentral, would you please refer to the academic work (author, title, publisher, page number) which states that the episode you deleted here [13] is connected to the First Crusade (as you claimed in the edit summary)?