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User:MilborneOne Okay, WHY did you delete it? Was there any reason whatsoever? Any good, real reason? Romanian-and-proud ( talk) 18:19, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Not this one, the Jet aircraft one. There was a ton of reasons for the Coandă to be there, yet you deleted it. Romanian-and-proud ( talk) 18:52, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
I removed the wording "Ducted fan". It was powered by a centrifugal compressor exausting through a duct. There is no other example of a ducted fan in similar configuration in the scientifical literature. If you would like to keep it, please come with similar examples Florinbaiduc ( talk) 21:00, 8 November 2016 (UTC)Florin Baiduc
The exact wording is: "Decades later, after the practical demonstration of motorjets and turbojets, Coandă asserted that his turbo-propulseur was the first motorjet engine complete with fuel combustion in the air stream. He also said that he had made a single brief flight in December 1910 crashing just after take-off, the aircraft destroyed by fire"
Please stop defining Coanda's plane as propeled by a ducted fan!!. His plane was propelled by a centrifugal compressor. It's a completely different principle than that of a ducted fan! Check the drawings and pictures of Coanda's engine, then look at some ducted fans (propellers within a duct). A ducted fan can propel without the duct, a centrifugal compressor can not propel without one. Florinbaiduc 13:43, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
Actually it is not a subset of a ducted fan! a ducted fan can propel without the duct. a centrifugal compressor not.-- Florinbaiduc ( talk) 13:46, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
Easy: a ducted fan is a propeller in a duct, and can propel without the duct, because it sends the air towards the back. A centrifugal compressor send the air radially towards outside, and does not generate thrust without a properly shaped case. A trivial, albeit critical difference. I tried to explain it a number of times, only to get the changes reverted without explanation. That is also known as vandalism! -- Florinbaiduc ( talk) 13:54, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
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Here is the best source for "ducted fan", coming from a modern engineer and writer, published in the Smithsonian's Air & Space magazine. See Coanda’s Claim by Frank H. Winter. The article appeared in December 2010. Binksternet ( talk) 08:19, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
I have read the discussions here and added an edit notice and some hidden text to the article. See if that makes any difference. -- John ( talk) 22:10, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
In the Memorials and models section, it mentions a 10-leu coin and a price of 220 leu. In Romanian, leu is singular and lei is plural. The correct usage should be a 10-lei coin at a price of 220 lei. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.95.1.11 ( talk) 12:12, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
there is a 1/10 scale model on display at the ICAO museum in Montreal i forgot to note the inscription but it does mention the 2nd International Aeronautical Exhibition and refers to the craft as the first jet plane mike( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:41, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
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User:MilborneOne Okay, WHY did you delete it? Was there any reason whatsoever? Any good, real reason? Romanian-and-proud ( talk) 18:19, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Not this one, the Jet aircraft one. There was a ton of reasons for the Coandă to be there, yet you deleted it. Romanian-and-proud ( talk) 18:52, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
I removed the wording "Ducted fan". It was powered by a centrifugal compressor exausting through a duct. There is no other example of a ducted fan in similar configuration in the scientifical literature. If you would like to keep it, please come with similar examples Florinbaiduc ( talk) 21:00, 8 November 2016 (UTC)Florin Baiduc
The exact wording is: "Decades later, after the practical demonstration of motorjets and turbojets, Coandă asserted that his turbo-propulseur was the first motorjet engine complete with fuel combustion in the air stream. He also said that he had made a single brief flight in December 1910 crashing just after take-off, the aircraft destroyed by fire"
Please stop defining Coanda's plane as propeled by a ducted fan!!. His plane was propelled by a centrifugal compressor. It's a completely different principle than that of a ducted fan! Check the drawings and pictures of Coanda's engine, then look at some ducted fans (propellers within a duct). A ducted fan can propel without the duct, a centrifugal compressor can not propel without one. Florinbaiduc 13:43, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
Actually it is not a subset of a ducted fan! a ducted fan can propel without the duct. a centrifugal compressor not.-- Florinbaiduc ( talk) 13:46, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
Easy: a ducted fan is a propeller in a duct, and can propel without the duct, because it sends the air towards the back. A centrifugal compressor send the air radially towards outside, and does not generate thrust without a properly shaped case. A trivial, albeit critical difference. I tried to explain it a number of times, only to get the changes reverted without explanation. That is also known as vandalism! -- Florinbaiduc ( talk) 13:54, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
References
Here is the best source for "ducted fan", coming from a modern engineer and writer, published in the Smithsonian's Air & Space magazine. See Coanda’s Claim by Frank H. Winter. The article appeared in December 2010. Binksternet ( talk) 08:19, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
I have read the discussions here and added an edit notice and some hidden text to the article. See if that makes any difference. -- John ( talk) 22:10, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
In the Memorials and models section, it mentions a 10-leu coin and a price of 220 leu. In Romanian, leu is singular and lei is plural. The correct usage should be a 10-lei coin at a price of 220 lei. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.95.1.11 ( talk) 12:12, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
there is a 1/10 scale model on display at the ICAO museum in Montreal i forgot to note the inscription but it does mention the 2nd International Aeronautical Exhibition and refers to the craft as the first jet plane mike( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:41, 17 January 2020 (UTC)