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It may be worth noting the situation in some states in regard to the coalition - since it has been dissolved in Victorian politics, and the only National in South Australia is a minister in the Rann Labor government. Ambi 03:29, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
you could have a section "where the coalition exists" and go through what levels of government have an existing or a past coalition agreement Xtra 04:18, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Perhaps it would be worth mentioning other coalitions, such as the Labor-Green coalitions which held power at various times in the ACT and Tasmania.
This article is a bit of a mess in how it's organised. I think it needs to separately list the situation federally, and for each state, because there is so much variation across the country. Peter Ballard 01:33, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
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There. Now it has been re-iterated, and in the process discussed. Timeshift 02:55, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Sounds a bit like opportunistic advertising to me... Timeshift ( talk) 16:10, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Before Karlene Maywald, South Australia has only ever had one Nationals MP, [1] Peter Blacker in Electoral district of Flinders from 1973 to 1993. This online biography of Blacker [2] makes no mention of him ever being a minister or shadow minister. That would suggest to me that SA has never had a Lib/Nat Coalition. So I've removed the uncited claim that it has. (Though I haven't said there wasn't either). Peter Ballard ( talk) 02:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
A couple of points about the recent edit re. Barnaby Joyce. First, neither of the refs say that the Nationals will sit on the cross benches. So that should be referenced or removed. Second, Joyce isn't breaking the Coalition, so I question whether it needs mentioning at all, unless some refs are saying this is a sign of a major shift in Coalition relations. Peter Ballard ( talk) 23:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
The is always part of the name of this entity. I have never heard it referred to as anything else. HiLo48 ( talk) 09:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm back! Australia is now effectively being governed by a coalition, a coalition of the ALP, Greens and some independents. If I was to create an article about that coalition, its name would logically be Coalition (Australia), with a capital C, because that's how we do things here. But this article has that name, and it's about a totally different coalition. This article could quite fairly be renamed to The Coalition (Australia), because that's what it's called in all common usage as a noun. HiLo48 ( talk) 03:53, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
The article is currently incorrect, Queensland is not the only state to have had a national party dominated coalition. Victoria has country party dominated coalitions from the 1920s to the 1950s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.208.176.68 ( talk) 22:04, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Why is the NT Parliament not showing in the table of seats held? Welshboyau11 ( talk) 08:20, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
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This page still refers to Truss as Deputy PM - I'm not sure how to reword. JennyOz ( talk) 01:15, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
This article is severely biased towards the Coalition. In some sections it makes them seem god like. This article needs a clean up. Life200BC ( talk) 01:10, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
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Coalition (Australia) → Liberal–National Coalition – The principle of article titles is that they are concise, precise and recognizable. It occurs to me that the title Coalition (Australia) is less concise, precise and recognizable than Liberal–National Coalition. A coalition is a mix of political parties/groups governing together, and that is not exclusivley the domain of the Liberal National Coalition in Australia. Saying "the Coalition" in Australian political discourse is reasonably likely to make someone think of the Liberal and National parties, but this is not guaranteed. As we speak there is "a Coalition" in power in the ACT, specifically a Labor-Green one, in fact such a coalition has existed for the last 8+ years. Its also not uncommon for the phrase "Labor-Green coalition" to be pursued during federal and state elections, often by Liberal or National advocates arguing against voting for either Labor or the Greens. Furthermore non-Australian readers would consider the "Coalition" to mean any number of potential political alliances. To sum up, it doesn't make sense to simplify a title to something vaguer and less recognizable than the lede of this article already implies; "The Liberal–National Coalition, commonly known simply as the Coalition..." Global-Cityzen ( talk) 04:25, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Article currently reads in part In the other states and the ACT, the Nationals have no sitting MPs and little or no organisational presence.
My State member is Paul Toole. And we're both in one of those other states. Andrewa ( talk) 05:39, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
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The article Liberal–National party merger is a bit of a nothing article - it just lists a few events vaguely related to a possible merge, which has not happened, at least at the national level and most states - and I think it would fit better as a section here. I have put merge tags on both articles. Adpete ( talk) 05:56, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. "The" can be discussed separately. CLYDE TALK TO ME/ STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 14:28, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
Coalition (Australia) →
Liberal–National Coalition – This has been proposed a few times in the past, however I feel like enough time has passed to restart the discussion. As has been mentioned in previous discussions, while the current title is shorter than the proposed one, it is in fact less
WP:CONSICE and much less
WP:PRECISE than the proposed title. While use of the lone phrase "the Coalition" is likely to make one think of the LNP, this is not guaranteed, with the concept of "a Coalition" stemming far beyond the one formed by the Liberal and National parties. Labor and the Greens were in a coalition at the federal level from 2010 to 2013, have jointly governed the ACT since 2008, and were previously in coalition in Tasmania in the 90s (with the Greens also governing with the Tasmanian Liberals in the 2010s). Furthermore, with the recent decline in the vote share of major parties, there have frequently been discussions of the possibility of a renewed Labor-Greens coalition, shown
here and
here. The current title disregards this, however, implying that in Australia, the concept of a coalition solely refers to the Liberals and Nationals. This is confusing and inaccurate to both international and domestic readers. Editors have also previously argued that the title "Liberal-National Coalition" is rarely used, however this is simply false. While the shortened version is commonly used more, the media nevertheless commonly refers to the "Liberal-National Coalition", as shown
here,
here, and
here. Finally, the proposed title creates a nice
WP:NATURAL disambiguator.
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The Electorate section tells me that one of the biggest voting blocs supporting the Coalition is "the Greatest Generation (people born between 1901–1927)". That means people aged 96 and over! I humbly submit that people aged 96 and over is NOT a big bloc. Would anyone object if I removed that content? HiLo48 ( talk) 06:45, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
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It may be worth noting the situation in some states in regard to the coalition - since it has been dissolved in Victorian politics, and the only National in South Australia is a minister in the Rann Labor government. Ambi 03:29, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
you could have a section "where the coalition exists" and go through what levels of government have an existing or a past coalition agreement Xtra 04:18, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Perhaps it would be worth mentioning other coalitions, such as the Labor-Green coalitions which held power at various times in the ACT and Tasmania.
This article is a bit of a mess in how it's organised. I think it needs to separately list the situation federally, and for each state, because there is so much variation across the country. Peter Ballard 01:33, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
This article needs sources or references that appear in reliable, third-party publications. Alone, primary sources and sources affiliated with the subject of this article are not sufficient for an accurate encyclopedia article. Please include more appropriate citations from reliable sources.
There. Now it has been re-iterated, and in the process discussed. Timeshift 02:55, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Sounds a bit like opportunistic advertising to me... Timeshift ( talk) 16:10, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Before Karlene Maywald, South Australia has only ever had one Nationals MP, [1] Peter Blacker in Electoral district of Flinders from 1973 to 1993. This online biography of Blacker [2] makes no mention of him ever being a minister or shadow minister. That would suggest to me that SA has never had a Lib/Nat Coalition. So I've removed the uncited claim that it has. (Though I haven't said there wasn't either). Peter Ballard ( talk) 02:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
A couple of points about the recent edit re. Barnaby Joyce. First, neither of the refs say that the Nationals will sit on the cross benches. So that should be referenced or removed. Second, Joyce isn't breaking the Coalition, so I question whether it needs mentioning at all, unless some refs are saying this is a sign of a major shift in Coalition relations. Peter Ballard ( talk) 23:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
The is always part of the name of this entity. I have never heard it referred to as anything else. HiLo48 ( talk) 09:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm back! Australia is now effectively being governed by a coalition, a coalition of the ALP, Greens and some independents. If I was to create an article about that coalition, its name would logically be Coalition (Australia), with a capital C, because that's how we do things here. But this article has that name, and it's about a totally different coalition. This article could quite fairly be renamed to The Coalition (Australia), because that's what it's called in all common usage as a noun. HiLo48 ( talk) 03:53, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
The article is currently incorrect, Queensland is not the only state to have had a national party dominated coalition. Victoria has country party dominated coalitions from the 1920s to the 1950s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.208.176.68 ( talk) 22:04, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Why is the NT Parliament not showing in the table of seats held? Welshboyau11 ( talk) 08:20, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
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This page still refers to Truss as Deputy PM - I'm not sure how to reword. JennyOz ( talk) 01:15, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
This article is severely biased towards the Coalition. In some sections it makes them seem god like. This article needs a clean up. Life200BC ( talk) 01:10, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
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Coalition (Australia) → Liberal–National Coalition – The principle of article titles is that they are concise, precise and recognizable. It occurs to me that the title Coalition (Australia) is less concise, precise and recognizable than Liberal–National Coalition. A coalition is a mix of political parties/groups governing together, and that is not exclusivley the domain of the Liberal National Coalition in Australia. Saying "the Coalition" in Australian political discourse is reasonably likely to make someone think of the Liberal and National parties, but this is not guaranteed. As we speak there is "a Coalition" in power in the ACT, specifically a Labor-Green one, in fact such a coalition has existed for the last 8+ years. Its also not uncommon for the phrase "Labor-Green coalition" to be pursued during federal and state elections, often by Liberal or National advocates arguing against voting for either Labor or the Greens. Furthermore non-Australian readers would consider the "Coalition" to mean any number of potential political alliances. To sum up, it doesn't make sense to simplify a title to something vaguer and less recognizable than the lede of this article already implies; "The Liberal–National Coalition, commonly known simply as the Coalition..." Global-Cityzen ( talk) 04:25, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Article currently reads in part In the other states and the ACT, the Nationals have no sitting MPs and little or no organisational presence.
My State member is Paul Toole. And we're both in one of those other states. Andrewa ( talk) 05:39, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect
The Coalition and has thus listed it
for discussion. This discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 23#The Coalition until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. ‑‑
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The article Liberal–National party merger is a bit of a nothing article - it just lists a few events vaguely related to a possible merge, which has not happened, at least at the national level and most states - and I think it would fit better as a section here. I have put merge tags on both articles. Adpete ( talk) 05:56, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. "The" can be discussed separately. CLYDE TALK TO ME/ STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 14:28, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
Coalition (Australia) →
Liberal–National Coalition – This has been proposed a few times in the past, however I feel like enough time has passed to restart the discussion. As has been mentioned in previous discussions, while the current title is shorter than the proposed one, it is in fact less
WP:CONSICE and much less
WP:PRECISE than the proposed title. While use of the lone phrase "the Coalition" is likely to make one think of the LNP, this is not guaranteed, with the concept of "a Coalition" stemming far beyond the one formed by the Liberal and National parties. Labor and the Greens were in a coalition at the federal level from 2010 to 2013, have jointly governed the ACT since 2008, and were previously in coalition in Tasmania in the 90s (with the Greens also governing with the Tasmanian Liberals in the 2010s). Furthermore, with the recent decline in the vote share of major parties, there have frequently been discussions of the possibility of a renewed Labor-Greens coalition, shown
here and
here. The current title disregards this, however, implying that in Australia, the concept of a coalition solely refers to the Liberals and Nationals. This is confusing and inaccurate to both international and domestic readers. Editors have also previously argued that the title "Liberal-National Coalition" is rarely used, however this is simply false. While the shortened version is commonly used more, the media nevertheless commonly refers to the "Liberal-National Coalition", as shown
here,
here, and
here. Finally, the proposed title creates a nice
WP:NATURAL disambiguator.
Loytra (
talk)
23:25, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
The Electorate section tells me that one of the biggest voting blocs supporting the Coalition is "the Greatest Generation (people born between 1901–1927)". That means people aged 96 and over! I humbly submit that people aged 96 and over is NOT a big bloc. Would anyone object if I removed that content? HiLo48 ( talk) 06:45, 11 December 2023 (UTC)