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I was redirected here on searching for “Chlodowech”, yet this name appears nowhere on the page. I believe I should have been sent straight to
Clovis I. (I’d change it myself, but I have no idea how.) —
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Requested move
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Comment, support, or oppose. I simply don't understand what the proposer is saying, or why. This article already functions as a de facto disambiguation page. What is proposed for
Clovis itself, after the proposed move? The hidden details say "no redirect", and there is no explicit request regarding how
Clovis and
Clovis I are to be related, if at all. Could we please work at specifying clearly what we want in these RMs? I am surprised at any suggestion that there is a "primary topic" to be found here; but if there is to be one, surprise is no longer sufficient when I find any serious proposal other than
Clovis I. I am compelled to resort to astonishment. Still, the present arrangement admirably meets the needs of all kinds of readers, from all parts of the English-speaking world. Leave it alone, please. Or make
Clovis a redirect to an official redirect page,
Clovis (disambiguation) (which currently redirect to
Clovis), and make no other moves. One thing is certain: no outcome is reasonable for this RM that is not prefigured plainly in the wording, with which it is advertised to the community. It is probably best withdrawn, or summarily disallowed, and re-presented accurately. NoeticaTea?09:30, 14 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Powers, I came to that hypothesis after a while. But we should not be put to that effort, and less-experienced editors might be left completely in the dark. I still was not sure. Note especially what I said: "The hidden details say 'no redirect'." I do not read minds; we all have different abilities in that regard. Please don't assume that my abilities (or anyone else's) ought to be the same as yours. Too many RMs are allowed to proceed though the intent is obscured. The community needs to be told what's going on, through the mechanisms that WP:RM lays out. NoeticaTea?22:26, 14 October 2011 (UTC)reply
You may have noticed that move procedures are not well understood by all editors; mistakes are made quite often. There is no reason not to be tolerant of innocent mistakes. For example, I previously refrained from pointing out that this "no redirect" about which you seem so concerned is a simple template that allows linking directly to a redirect without following said redirect, which you would see simply by examining the resulting URL or by clicking the link.
PowersT23:45, 14 October 2011 (UTC)reply
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Clovis Sangrail
The assertion that Saki's character Clovis Sangrail is named because he is 'so appalingly frank' was added on 17 Nov 06. It is entirely plausible ... but not referenced and I cannot find a source by Googling. Is this actually fact?
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I was redirected here on searching for “Chlodowech”, yet this name appears nowhere on the page. I believe I should have been sent straight to
Clovis I. (I’d change it myself, but I have no idea how.) —
Odysseus1479 (
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08:03, 5 March 2012 (UTC)reply
Requested move
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requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Comment, support, or oppose. I simply don't understand what the proposer is saying, or why. This article already functions as a de facto disambiguation page. What is proposed for
Clovis itself, after the proposed move? The hidden details say "no redirect", and there is no explicit request regarding how
Clovis and
Clovis I are to be related, if at all. Could we please work at specifying clearly what we want in these RMs? I am surprised at any suggestion that there is a "primary topic" to be found here; but if there is to be one, surprise is no longer sufficient when I find any serious proposal other than
Clovis I. I am compelled to resort to astonishment. Still, the present arrangement admirably meets the needs of all kinds of readers, from all parts of the English-speaking world. Leave it alone, please. Or make
Clovis a redirect to an official redirect page,
Clovis (disambiguation) (which currently redirect to
Clovis), and make no other moves. One thing is certain: no outcome is reasonable for this RM that is not prefigured plainly in the wording, with which it is advertised to the community. It is probably best withdrawn, or summarily disallowed, and re-presented accurately. NoeticaTea?09:30, 14 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Powers, I came to that hypothesis after a while. But we should not be put to that effort, and less-experienced editors might be left completely in the dark. I still was not sure. Note especially what I said: "The hidden details say 'no redirect'." I do not read minds; we all have different abilities in that regard. Please don't assume that my abilities (or anyone else's) ought to be the same as yours. Too many RMs are allowed to proceed though the intent is obscured. The community needs to be told what's going on, through the mechanisms that WP:RM lays out. NoeticaTea?22:26, 14 October 2011 (UTC)reply
You may have noticed that move procedures are not well understood by all editors; mistakes are made quite often. There is no reason not to be tolerant of innocent mistakes. For example, I previously refrained from pointing out that this "no redirect" about which you seem so concerned is a simple template that allows linking directly to a redirect without following said redirect, which you would see simply by examining the resulting URL or by clicking the link.
PowersT23:45, 14 October 2011 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Clovis Sangrail
The assertion that Saki's character Clovis Sangrail is named because he is 'so appalingly frank' was added on 17 Nov 06. It is entirely plausible ... but not referenced and I cannot find a source by Googling. Is this actually fact?
2A00:23C5:6E38:8001:D156:6D77:1B75:CED9 (
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15:49, 26 December 2023 (UTC)reply