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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 15:41, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
The curse as originally written has absolutely nothing to do with UFC fights, only the Indians, Cavaliers, and Browns. The Curse of Billy Penn (at least as it is currently written) does not count the Philadelphia Soul's Arena Bowl win as the end either - that is considered the Phillies' 2008 WS win. 160.93.6.9 ( talk) 15:16, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Stipe Miocich did not end the curse. The curse revolves around the 3 pro sports teams, not around individual athletes. If that were the case then LeBron James would have ended the curse in 2011 when he won the NBA finals and Finals MVP. The Stipe Miocich information would be more relevant added to the introduction of this article along with the soccer teams who won in the 90s, rather than saying he ended the curse. The curse will not end until one of the 3 major pro sports teams wins a championship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.85.214.4 ( talk) 15:44, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
I have revised the article. The claim re Miocic seems to be based on the news articles used as sources, which I additionally feel is too biased based upon the fact that Fox has UFC's broadcasting rights and has an inherent incentive to up-play the things they have. The same had been done regarding the Curse of Billy Penn when the Philadelphia Soul won ArenaBowl XXII; ESPN (who had Arena Football League broadcast rights then) also claimed it was over, something which the Billy Penn article rejects. 160.93.6.2 ( talk) 14:40, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
So for future reference, the ESPN ads for the current ESPN finals say "will the half century title drought in Cleveland finally end" you can hear it in the most recent bill barnwell podcast (the one with mina kimes) in the last 10 seconds of the podcast. ESPN seems about as good of a source as any to weigh in on the subject of the curse, and they do not consider it ended. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.207.250.71 ( talk) 12:32, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 15:41, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
The curse as originally written has absolutely nothing to do with UFC fights, only the Indians, Cavaliers, and Browns. The Curse of Billy Penn (at least as it is currently written) does not count the Philadelphia Soul's Arena Bowl win as the end either - that is considered the Phillies' 2008 WS win. 160.93.6.9 ( talk) 15:16, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Stipe Miocich did not end the curse. The curse revolves around the 3 pro sports teams, not around individual athletes. If that were the case then LeBron James would have ended the curse in 2011 when he won the NBA finals and Finals MVP. The Stipe Miocich information would be more relevant added to the introduction of this article along with the soccer teams who won in the 90s, rather than saying he ended the curse. The curse will not end until one of the 3 major pro sports teams wins a championship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.85.214.4 ( talk) 15:44, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
I have revised the article. The claim re Miocic seems to be based on the news articles used as sources, which I additionally feel is too biased based upon the fact that Fox has UFC's broadcasting rights and has an inherent incentive to up-play the things they have. The same had been done regarding the Curse of Billy Penn when the Philadelphia Soul won ArenaBowl XXII; ESPN (who had Arena Football League broadcast rights then) also claimed it was over, something which the Billy Penn article rejects. 160.93.6.2 ( talk) 14:40, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
So for future reference, the ESPN ads for the current ESPN finals say "will the half century title drought in Cleveland finally end" you can hear it in the most recent bill barnwell podcast (the one with mina kimes) in the last 10 seconds of the podcast. ESPN seems about as good of a source as any to weigh in on the subject of the curse, and they do not consider it ended. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.207.250.71 ( talk) 12:32, 1 June 2016 (UTC)