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It seems unclear whether the 1902 version of the Indians were called the Broncos or Bronchos. The Indians web page as well as the book Our Tribe, by Terry Pluto say the Broncos. Terry Pluto did a whole chapter on the team name, although the emphasis was on the Indians name. Some web pages say "Bronchos", though. It is unclear whether Bronchos is misspelling or Broncos is a modern simplification of a strange spelling.
The Shapiro Years section, especially the 2006 off-season, is far too long. The Crisp trade needs to be set in context - perhaps one sentence, two at most, not a lengthy paragraph. Tytrain 22:47, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Not sure how they directly relate to the Indians. I would eliminate both of those sections entirely, but perhaps some mention of baseball in Cleveland before the Indians is necessary for the article. DandyDan2007 22:33, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Any thought of mentioning John Adams, the drum beater in the stands? There was a great article written about him last July, around the 9th (unfortunately it's gone from cleveland.com now and apparently never has been in the long-term archive). Mapsax 23:33, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
I am changing the flag next to Danny Graves from Vietnam to the USA. I think the flag should represent one's nationality and not one's birthplace. As far as I know Graves has never identified himself as a national of Vietnam and has lived the a total of 14 months out of 33 years. Montco 02:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Why does this page insist that the team wasn't named after Sockalexis? It was, at least indirectly. When the Naps needed a new name, the sportswriters chose "Indians" because that's what the 19th-century N.L. club was called. And the N.L. called was called that because of Sockalexis. The Indians' media guide and Web site (the latter cited as a source for the Wikipedia article) say the team has its name because of Sockalexis. What do the Wikipedians know that the Indians' flaks don't? -- 63.174.21.30 ( Talk)
Can someone give a reference where the team is referred to as the "Redskins" either today or in the past in the same way "The Tribe" is used? I've been a fan of the Tribe since I was a kid in the 70's and I have never heard or read were the team has been referred to by that nickname. I feel that when listing nicknames for any team that only nicknames promoted by organization or currently embraced by supporters of the team should be included. Any commonly used nicknames of the past that have fallen out of use, I believe, should only be noted if it can be referenced as being in use once. StrayKat 23:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
So as the indians get closer to the world series, looks like we've got some idiot vandals. i'm fixing the ones i spot, but could we please get an admin to protect this page? thanks. - preschooler @ heart 05:10, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I keep removing the trivia section, but keep on being reverted by people who doesn't know much about policies. None of this trivia is sourced, which is key for merging that trivia to the main article. The rest of this trivia should belong in the articles of the players and the statium, not in the main team article themselves. There is nothing to merge Secret account 21:28, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I support Montco edits Secret account 22:30, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
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The article had a peer review done a while ago. Since some of us have worked pretty hard to expand the article, anyone think about re-submitting the article for a peer review that might eventually get worked into a WP:GA nomination? Only asking first because I would appreciate the help in getting comments addressed when they arise.
Montco ( talk) 16:48, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I admit to being a bit lost at the tidbit that the Indians were the only team in the two-division era not to win a division championship. Seattle never won one either--do they not count because they weren't around for the *entire* era? If that's the case, that should probably be clarified. PeteF3 ( talk) 02:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
After doing away with the sleeveless uniforms that used the Script I cap, they now wear those with the blue uniforms, and no longer the Chief Wahoo Cap. The picture is incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Domanator ( talk • contribs) 15:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Just to point out, I quick-failed it because i noticed several unreferenced sections. That being said, this team article is a lot better than many, and it's not too far from GA status. I'll help out where I can. Wizardman 22:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
It seemed incongruous that, on the one hand, the discussion page (and my own understanding of the situation) indicates that the "contoversy" is minor... yet on the other hand, the controversy was featured prominently in the article's lead, as if it were a fundamental, defining part of the Cleveland Indians baseball team. So, I copied this stuff to its own section down the page. Moishe Rosenbaum ( talk) 14:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
The article as first glance looks like one to review, so I'll start with a linkcheck. The following refs/links need fixing:
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The Cleveland club was also called The Molly Maguiers, so called after the miners of that era. The owner made his fortune in mining and the players, being restive and wanting to be paid fairly were given that name. This was around the 1909-1910 years. It was an on official name but it was a name that they went by.
It looks like these need to be fixed. §hep Talk 00:17, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm amazed there's nothing here about the controversy over the logo. (I'm seeing what I can find in good references.) - David Gerard 22:11, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
The uniforms picture needs to be updated to reflect the new changes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.254.235.140 ( talk) 16:12, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
I hope some experienced Wikipedian will upload an image depicting Mike Hargrove as a Cleveland Indian rather than a Seattle Mariner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.107.212.75 ( talk) 15:51, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Is Chief Wahoo actually the cap insignia? It seems to me that the block C is the main insignia and the Wahoo caps are now alternates. If anything, the two should be reversed. -- 2602:306:3074:87B0:1510:888E:8A0A:BE27 ( talk) 19:07, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
I recently edited the section Cleveland Indians#1894–1935: Beginning to middle regarding the origin of the team's name. Since this was a potentially contentious change, I will reproduce the text from the cited references for the benefit of other editors.
From the Sporting Life "They're Indians Now" dated March 22, 1897:
There is no feature of the signing of Sockalexis more gratifying than the fact that his presence on the team will result in relegating to obscurity the title of "Spiders," by which the team has been handicapped for several season, to give place to the more significant name "Indians."
From The Plain Dealer article "Baseball writers select 'Indians' as the best name to apply to the former Naps" dated January 17, 1915:
With the going of Nap Lajoie to the Athletics, a new name had to be selected for the Cleveland American league club. President Somers invited the Cleveland baseball writers to make the selection. The title of Indians was their choice, it having been one of the names applied to the old National league club of Cleveland many years ago.
The nickname, however, is but temporarily bestowed, as the club may so conduct itself during the present season as to earn some other cognomen which may be more appropriate. The choice of a name that would be significant just now was rather difficult with the club itself anchored in last place.
While picking a name for the Cleveland A. L. team, the committee also agreed that the Cleveland A. A. team owned too many names, and that while they were at it, it might be well to agree on just one name for the erstwhile Bearcats. Consequently, the other old nickname of the Cleveland National leaguers was adopted and henceforth all the local papers will call the A. A. club the Spiders.
So there you are—Indians and Spiders.
From The Plain Dealer article "Looking Backwards" dated January 18, 1915:
Many years ago there was an Indian named Sockalexis who was the star player of the Cleveland baseball club. As a batter, fielder and base runner he was a marvel. Sockalexis so far outshone his teammates that he naturally came to be regarded as the whole team. The "fans" throughout the country began to call the Clevelanders the "Indians." It was an honorable name, and while it stuck the team made an excellent record. It has now been decided to revive this name. The Clevelands of 1915 will be the "Indians." There will be no real red Indians on the roster, but the name will recall fine traditions. It is looking backward to a time when Cleveland had one of the most popular teams of the United States. It also serves to revive the memory of a single great player who has been gathered to his fathers in the happy hunting grounds of the Abenakis.
Regarding the claim that the name was inspired by the Boston Braves, that was only the inspiration for the Indians wearing an Indian head on their uniform. From The Plain Dealer article "Indians to follow example of Braves" dated February 28, 1915:
Following the example of the Boston Braves, the management of the Cleveland Indians intends to have an Indian head on the left sleeve of each of the suits of the Cleveland American league club players. In this way, the officials hope to keep the Indians reminded of what the Braves did last year, jumping from last place to first.
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I don't see the need to note Grand Rapids in the lead twice. It's simply unnecessary. Levdr1lp / talk 22:49, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
It states "Players listed in bold are depicted on their Hall of Fame plaques wearing a Indians or Naps cap insignia". There is no differance between the names yet there are at least five players listed who in fact are not enshrined as Indians. Those would be Blyleven, Winfield, Neikro, Murray, and Eckersley (Twins, Padres, Braves, Orioles and Athletics respectivly). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Revrendp27 ( talk • contribs) 16:57, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
The cap insignia needs to be updated. Being from Cleveland, I know that the cap insignia has changed who to the Chief Wahoo controversy. This needs to be updated and properly cited. Pennylikeacoin ( talk) 20:01, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
Can someone let who can fix the indians Wikipedia that they won the A.L pennant in 1995 when we went to the world series to face the Alanta Braves Lddb216 ( talk) 07:11, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
I believe that given the fact that the Chicago Cubs no longer hold the title for longest-running drought as of the 2016 World Series, and that the honor now belongs to the Cleveland Indians, this should be indicated somewhere in the lead. Last time they won the WS was in 1948, nearly 70 years ago. -- FuzzyGopher ( talk) 06:08, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
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The three uniform combinations listed are correct, but there are also two other alternative combinations they haver recently worn. The blue jersey with the red "C" cap should be listed as an "ALT HOME" jersey. Another "ALT HOME" jersey is the blue jersey with the Chief Wahoo cap with red brim worn with the white jerseys. The "ALT AWAY" jersey should be the blue jersey with the Chief Wahoo cap with the blue brim. That cap is not represented on the current graphic. JimmyPiersall ( talk) 14:31, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
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For accuracy, I request that this paragraph be modified from its current articulation to the one suggested below it, because the 1916 New York Giants did NOT win 26 "CONSECUTIVE" games, as they had a tie game between their first 14 wins and their subsequent 12 wins.
Current: On September 14, 2017, the Cleveland Indians won their 22nd straight game. It extended the new American League record they set the previous game, while also becoming the longest winning streak in Major League Baseball in 101 years. The 1916 New York Giants won 26 consecutive games, which is the all-time Major League record.[5]
Revised: On September 14, 2017, the Cleveland Indians won their 22nd straight game. It extended the new American League record they set the previous game, while also becoming the longest consecutive winning streak in Major League history, surpassing the 1935 Chicago Cubs' previous record of 21 consecutive wins. It should be noted that the 1916 New York Giants won 26 games without a loss, but this streak included a tie game after the 14th win which interrupted that winning streak.[5] 174.104.120.66 ( talk) 14:17, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Now that Wahoo has been retired, the block "C" logo is both the team's primary logo and cap logo. In other articles where this is the case, such as San Diego Padres and Pittsburgh Pirates, we use the logo against a transparent background for the "Team Logo" field and the logo against a cap-colored background for the "Cap Logo" field. (The Milwaukee Brewers are an exception because although they elevated their cap logo to "primary logo" status, it was in a different color combination.) I'm updating this article to reflect that the block C is both primary and cap logo, and treating it the same as similar articles. SixFourThree ( talk) 18:14, 19 November 2018 (UTC)SixFourThree
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It seems unclear whether the 1902 version of the Indians were called the Broncos or Bronchos. The Indians web page as well as the book Our Tribe, by Terry Pluto say the Broncos. Terry Pluto did a whole chapter on the team name, although the emphasis was on the Indians name. Some web pages say "Bronchos", though. It is unclear whether Bronchos is misspelling or Broncos is a modern simplification of a strange spelling.
The Shapiro Years section, especially the 2006 off-season, is far too long. The Crisp trade needs to be set in context - perhaps one sentence, two at most, not a lengthy paragraph. Tytrain 22:47, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Not sure how they directly relate to the Indians. I would eliminate both of those sections entirely, but perhaps some mention of baseball in Cleveland before the Indians is necessary for the article. DandyDan2007 22:33, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Any thought of mentioning John Adams, the drum beater in the stands? There was a great article written about him last July, around the 9th (unfortunately it's gone from cleveland.com now and apparently never has been in the long-term archive). Mapsax 23:33, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
I am changing the flag next to Danny Graves from Vietnam to the USA. I think the flag should represent one's nationality and not one's birthplace. As far as I know Graves has never identified himself as a national of Vietnam and has lived the a total of 14 months out of 33 years. Montco 02:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Why does this page insist that the team wasn't named after Sockalexis? It was, at least indirectly. When the Naps needed a new name, the sportswriters chose "Indians" because that's what the 19th-century N.L. club was called. And the N.L. called was called that because of Sockalexis. The Indians' media guide and Web site (the latter cited as a source for the Wikipedia article) say the team has its name because of Sockalexis. What do the Wikipedians know that the Indians' flaks don't? -- 63.174.21.30 ( Talk)
Can someone give a reference where the team is referred to as the "Redskins" either today or in the past in the same way "The Tribe" is used? I've been a fan of the Tribe since I was a kid in the 70's and I have never heard or read were the team has been referred to by that nickname. I feel that when listing nicknames for any team that only nicknames promoted by organization or currently embraced by supporters of the team should be included. Any commonly used nicknames of the past that have fallen out of use, I believe, should only be noted if it can be referenced as being in use once. StrayKat 23:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
So as the indians get closer to the world series, looks like we've got some idiot vandals. i'm fixing the ones i spot, but could we please get an admin to protect this page? thanks. - preschooler @ heart 05:10, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I keep removing the trivia section, but keep on being reverted by people who doesn't know much about policies. None of this trivia is sourced, which is key for merging that trivia to the main article. The rest of this trivia should belong in the articles of the players and the statium, not in the main team article themselves. There is nothing to merge Secret account 21:28, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I support Montco edits Secret account 22:30, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
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The article had a peer review done a while ago. Since some of us have worked pretty hard to expand the article, anyone think about re-submitting the article for a peer review that might eventually get worked into a WP:GA nomination? Only asking first because I would appreciate the help in getting comments addressed when they arise.
Montco ( talk) 16:48, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I admit to being a bit lost at the tidbit that the Indians were the only team in the two-division era not to win a division championship. Seattle never won one either--do they not count because they weren't around for the *entire* era? If that's the case, that should probably be clarified. PeteF3 ( talk) 02:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
After doing away with the sleeveless uniforms that used the Script I cap, they now wear those with the blue uniforms, and no longer the Chief Wahoo Cap. The picture is incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Domanator ( talk • contribs) 15:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Just to point out, I quick-failed it because i noticed several unreferenced sections. That being said, this team article is a lot better than many, and it's not too far from GA status. I'll help out where I can. Wizardman 22:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
It seemed incongruous that, on the one hand, the discussion page (and my own understanding of the situation) indicates that the "contoversy" is minor... yet on the other hand, the controversy was featured prominently in the article's lead, as if it were a fundamental, defining part of the Cleveland Indians baseball team. So, I copied this stuff to its own section down the page. Moishe Rosenbaum ( talk) 14:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
The article as first glance looks like one to review, so I'll start with a linkcheck. The following refs/links need fixing:
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Adding on to what Wizardman said, I have reviewed this article further, based on the GA criteria.
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The Cleveland club was also called The Molly Maguiers, so called after the miners of that era. The owner made his fortune in mining and the players, being restive and wanting to be paid fairly were given that name. This was around the 1909-1910 years. It was an on official name but it was a name that they went by.
It looks like these need to be fixed. §hep Talk 00:17, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm amazed there's nothing here about the controversy over the logo. (I'm seeing what I can find in good references.) - David Gerard 22:11, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
The uniforms picture needs to be updated to reflect the new changes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.254.235.140 ( talk) 16:12, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
I hope some experienced Wikipedian will upload an image depicting Mike Hargrove as a Cleveland Indian rather than a Seattle Mariner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.107.212.75 ( talk) 15:51, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Is Chief Wahoo actually the cap insignia? It seems to me that the block C is the main insignia and the Wahoo caps are now alternates. If anything, the two should be reversed. -- 2602:306:3074:87B0:1510:888E:8A0A:BE27 ( talk) 19:07, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
I recently edited the section Cleveland Indians#1894–1935: Beginning to middle regarding the origin of the team's name. Since this was a potentially contentious change, I will reproduce the text from the cited references for the benefit of other editors.
From the Sporting Life "They're Indians Now" dated March 22, 1897:
There is no feature of the signing of Sockalexis more gratifying than the fact that his presence on the team will result in relegating to obscurity the title of "Spiders," by which the team has been handicapped for several season, to give place to the more significant name "Indians."
From The Plain Dealer article "Baseball writers select 'Indians' as the best name to apply to the former Naps" dated January 17, 1915:
With the going of Nap Lajoie to the Athletics, a new name had to be selected for the Cleveland American league club. President Somers invited the Cleveland baseball writers to make the selection. The title of Indians was their choice, it having been one of the names applied to the old National league club of Cleveland many years ago.
The nickname, however, is but temporarily bestowed, as the club may so conduct itself during the present season as to earn some other cognomen which may be more appropriate. The choice of a name that would be significant just now was rather difficult with the club itself anchored in last place.
While picking a name for the Cleveland A. L. team, the committee also agreed that the Cleveland A. A. team owned too many names, and that while they were at it, it might be well to agree on just one name for the erstwhile Bearcats. Consequently, the other old nickname of the Cleveland National leaguers was adopted and henceforth all the local papers will call the A. A. club the Spiders.
So there you are—Indians and Spiders.
From The Plain Dealer article "Looking Backwards" dated January 18, 1915:
Many years ago there was an Indian named Sockalexis who was the star player of the Cleveland baseball club. As a batter, fielder and base runner he was a marvel. Sockalexis so far outshone his teammates that he naturally came to be regarded as the whole team. The "fans" throughout the country began to call the Clevelanders the "Indians." It was an honorable name, and while it stuck the team made an excellent record. It has now been decided to revive this name. The Clevelands of 1915 will be the "Indians." There will be no real red Indians on the roster, but the name will recall fine traditions. It is looking backward to a time when Cleveland had one of the most popular teams of the United States. It also serves to revive the memory of a single great player who has been gathered to his fathers in the happy hunting grounds of the Abenakis.
Regarding the claim that the name was inspired by the Boston Braves, that was only the inspiration for the Indians wearing an Indian head on their uniform. From The Plain Dealer article "Indians to follow example of Braves" dated February 28, 1915:
Following the example of the Boston Braves, the management of the Cleveland Indians intends to have an Indian head on the left sleeve of each of the suits of the Cleveland American league club players. In this way, the officials hope to keep the Indians reminded of what the Braves did last year, jumping from last place to first.
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I don't see the need to note Grand Rapids in the lead twice. It's simply unnecessary. Levdr1lp / talk 22:49, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
It states "Players listed in bold are depicted on their Hall of Fame plaques wearing a Indians or Naps cap insignia". There is no differance between the names yet there are at least five players listed who in fact are not enshrined as Indians. Those would be Blyleven, Winfield, Neikro, Murray, and Eckersley (Twins, Padres, Braves, Orioles and Athletics respectivly). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Revrendp27 ( talk • contribs) 16:57, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
The cap insignia needs to be updated. Being from Cleveland, I know that the cap insignia has changed who to the Chief Wahoo controversy. This needs to be updated and properly cited. Pennylikeacoin ( talk) 20:01, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
Can someone let who can fix the indians Wikipedia that they won the A.L pennant in 1995 when we went to the world series to face the Alanta Braves Lddb216 ( talk) 07:11, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
I believe that given the fact that the Chicago Cubs no longer hold the title for longest-running drought as of the 2016 World Series, and that the honor now belongs to the Cleveland Indians, this should be indicated somewhere in the lead. Last time they won the WS was in 1948, nearly 70 years ago. -- FuzzyGopher ( talk) 06:08, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
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The three uniform combinations listed are correct, but there are also two other alternative combinations they haver recently worn. The blue jersey with the red "C" cap should be listed as an "ALT HOME" jersey. Another "ALT HOME" jersey is the blue jersey with the Chief Wahoo cap with red brim worn with the white jerseys. The "ALT AWAY" jersey should be the blue jersey with the Chief Wahoo cap with the blue brim. That cap is not represented on the current graphic. JimmyPiersall ( talk) 14:31, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
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For accuracy, I request that this paragraph be modified from its current articulation to the one suggested below it, because the 1916 New York Giants did NOT win 26 "CONSECUTIVE" games, as they had a tie game between their first 14 wins and their subsequent 12 wins.
Current: On September 14, 2017, the Cleveland Indians won their 22nd straight game. It extended the new American League record they set the previous game, while also becoming the longest winning streak in Major League Baseball in 101 years. The 1916 New York Giants won 26 consecutive games, which is the all-time Major League record.[5]
Revised: On September 14, 2017, the Cleveland Indians won their 22nd straight game. It extended the new American League record they set the previous game, while also becoming the longest consecutive winning streak in Major League history, surpassing the 1935 Chicago Cubs' previous record of 21 consecutive wins. It should be noted that the 1916 New York Giants won 26 games without a loss, but this streak included a tie game after the 14th win which interrupted that winning streak.[5] 174.104.120.66 ( talk) 14:17, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Now that Wahoo has been retired, the block "C" logo is both the team's primary logo and cap logo. In other articles where this is the case, such as San Diego Padres and Pittsburgh Pirates, we use the logo against a transparent background for the "Team Logo" field and the logo against a cap-colored background for the "Cap Logo" field. (The Milwaukee Brewers are an exception because although they elevated their cap logo to "primary logo" status, it was in a different color combination.) I'm updating this article to reflect that the block C is both primary and cap logo, and treating it the same as similar articles. SixFourThree ( talk) 18:14, 19 November 2018 (UTC)SixFourThree