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I regularily check Cities XL . com , so , there is some stuff that should be updated it. I would put it under game discussions. Should I do it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.34.90.227 ( talk) 23:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
The creation of a replica of New York City [1] might be wikiworthy. I'll let others make the call here. 66.193.18.4 ( talk) 14:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Somebody want to explain how that works? That thing wasn't being used to make any kind of point or counter-argument, but rather, an excuse to show off screenshots. - Biokinetica ( talk) 11:48, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I have taken the removed images off the fair use orphaned deletion countdown until this is resolved, as can be done if their is a reason to keep them, which there is at present per above. Camaron | Chris (talk) 14:12, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Is there a refence to the new release data in the info bar? The original release data has not been changed in intro section. Is there anyway to confirm either one? 24.114.255.83 ( talk) 19:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Is it already confirmed that the GEMs will require one-off payment to be played in the MMO mode? -- 10:31, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
If no one objects, I will add new information from the Cities XL site to update this article. Of course it would not be possible for me to break their Non-Disclosure Agreement because I am not in the Beta and therefore I have nothing to disclose thus I was not given the NDA to sign. Azemocram ( talk) 07:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Unfortunately Monte Cristo have re-worked the Cities XL website breaking a lot of the references in this article. I will try and fix these later. Camaron · Christopher · talk 09:14, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I am getting a little concerned over the reliability of sources being added to the article. Under the linked guideline Information in Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, and articles should be based primarily on independent secondary sources. The sources used in this article are:
Camaron · Christopher · talk 11:56, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I am concerned this article is not heading in the right direction, similar to the way the SimCity Societies article did around the time the game is released. That article seemed to became a venting place for fans of the game with it being highly unbalanced with a detailed controversy section. History appears to be repeating itself again here, with yet another appearance of a controversy section based on individial incidents from fan sites. Controversy/criticism sections are not banned but they are inherently non-neutral and can easily unbalance the article, and in games articles such a section is easily replaced by a reception section. Details of individial incidents from fan sites should not be mentioned unless they are reported by reliable sources. While I am not accusing fans of lying, it is very bad idea for Wikipedia to take at face value posts on forums which could be from just about anyone. I am planning to give this article a non-merciful clean-up shortly to deal with source reliablity, neutrality, and other issues. I am also planning to add an edit notice to alert new users to what should be in the article, and what shouldn't. Camaron · Christopher · talk 11:08, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I have given the article a clean-up. The article is shorter than it was but a less detailed well written article is better than a long badly written one. I have removed sources which are obviously not reliable and content reliant on it such as Cities XL, Simple (per above) and forum posts. I have left the SIMphoni and Simtropolis article sources for the moment although these are still questionable. I have removed the controversy section entirely, I am sure it was created in good faith, but as I have said above such section are not a sign of a well written article, and it was based mostly on either unsourced content or non-reliable sources, so had to go in its present state. I have also created an editnotice to give some information to future editors at Template:Editnotices/Page/Cities XL which will appear when users try and edit the article. It is based on other edit notices such as Template:Editnotices/Page/Eurovision Song Contest 2010. For security reasons edit notices can only be edited by admins, if anyone has any suggested changes, please make them on this talk page. Camaron · Christopher · talk 16:37, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
There have been repeated attempts in what appears to be an organised action to re-insert a controversy section. First off these attempts seem to be based on copying an older revision of the article text, rather than the underlying wikicode, resulting in broken references and no links. I have removed it again given the lack of explanation for re-insertion either here or in edit summaries, the lack of support for such content here, and as explained above the fact the section breaks a listable number of policies, guidelines, and general editing advice. Given that it is becoming disruptive, if this continues I will be considering further action including possibly requesting page semi-protection (I could do that myself but I am involved). Camaron · Christopher · talk 21:45, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
I have done a bit of research and it appears the section has been the subject of attention at Simtropolis, and also appears to being restored by someone from that fansite using a copy and paste of the version posted on that forum (hence the broken references). The section has also been cited in an Amazon user review under "Simcity societies all over again, a real letdown.,". No wonder perhaps that it keeps being restored. Camaron · Christopher · talk 10:59, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
I have tried to create a reception section, though the reviews don't appear to be out yet according to MetaCritic [3] and GameRankings [4], which such sections are usually based on. Once the reviews are out and a score exists a balanced reception section should be created. Camaron · Christopher · talk 16:01, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
I always get a little worried when a game's been out for 24 hours and there are no online reviews yet... I reckon a panning is coming! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.210.84 ( talk) 10:26, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Correct me if im wrong but isnt the bug in the Early-Bug-section fixed? I know that there was one but I didnt notice it at the end of the Beta.-- Christoffre ( talk) 17:11, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed things about a new deluxe version of the game, and rumors are that it comes out in march. The rumor can be tossed aside for now, it is oficcial that it exists. I suggest either adding it to cities xl page or making a a child page to the Cities xl page. Stuart 75.169.115.128 ( talk) 04:00, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
The Cities XL website has been relaunched yet again, resulting in a lot of dead links that will need to be fixed. The Internet Archive does not appear to have worked in this instance annoyingly. It would be good to avoid removing content just because its source has gone dead, so I will look into replacing the dead links. CT Cooper · talk 11:30, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
All dead links have now been replaced. The main area which now needs attention is the reception section, along with developments on Cities XL 2011. CT Cooper · talk 18:35, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Erhm, I'm not too sure what falls under the purview of 'Original Research' exactly, but I noticed mention of 'Focus Home Interactive' acquiring the license to Cities XL. There's one problem with this: as the game's publisher, Focus already had the license to the game to begin with. Essentially, the idea that Focus 'acquired' the license seems to be little more than spin intended to suggest that Focus wasn't involved with Cities XL (and part holder of the License) in the first place.
While commenting on that specifically isn't exactly encyclopaedic, would it be out of place to note in the article that Focus Home Interactive was in fact involved with the game from the start and did, thusly, not acquire the license only recently as their press release makes it appear? Robrecht ( talk) 22:58, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Hello. This is AzemOcram the primary contributor to the Wikia wiki (Wikia is some sort of sister company to Wikimedia or something like that, both are ran by that J Wells character). I was wondering whether I should mention the fact that Monte Cristo partnered with a lot companies to make revenue from the presence of certain buildings (Novotel, TransAm Pyramid, Tokyo Tower, Empire State Building, commercial and residential buildings designed by 2 architectural firms, etc) and advertising (Novotel, Ford, Mini, itself; Cities Unlimited had Coca-Cola advertisements but Coke dropped Monte Cristo). Is this a good idea? There is a lot of information that should be only on citiesxl.wikia.com and not en.wikipedia.org but a small section or a sentence might be good. This information was available at Monte Cristo's website and both the Cities Unlimited and Cities XL sites (both down now). I have not checked the Cities XL 2011 site for advertising partners but I know that the articles and blog posts are not officially hosted by Focus. -- Azemocram ( talk) 04:45, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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I regularily check Cities XL . com , so , there is some stuff that should be updated it. I would put it under game discussions. Should I do it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.34.90.227 ( talk) 23:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
The creation of a replica of New York City [1] might be wikiworthy. I'll let others make the call here. 66.193.18.4 ( talk) 14:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Somebody want to explain how that works? That thing wasn't being used to make any kind of point or counter-argument, but rather, an excuse to show off screenshots. - Biokinetica ( talk) 11:48, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I have taken the removed images off the fair use orphaned deletion countdown until this is resolved, as can be done if their is a reason to keep them, which there is at present per above. Camaron | Chris (talk) 14:12, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Is there a refence to the new release data in the info bar? The original release data has not been changed in intro section. Is there anyway to confirm either one? 24.114.255.83 ( talk) 19:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Is it already confirmed that the GEMs will require one-off payment to be played in the MMO mode? -- 10:31, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
If no one objects, I will add new information from the Cities XL site to update this article. Of course it would not be possible for me to break their Non-Disclosure Agreement because I am not in the Beta and therefore I have nothing to disclose thus I was not given the NDA to sign. Azemocram ( talk) 07:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Unfortunately Monte Cristo have re-worked the Cities XL website breaking a lot of the references in this article. I will try and fix these later. Camaron · Christopher · talk 09:14, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I am getting a little concerned over the reliability of sources being added to the article. Under the linked guideline Information in Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, and articles should be based primarily on independent secondary sources. The sources used in this article are:
Camaron · Christopher · talk 11:56, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I am concerned this article is not heading in the right direction, similar to the way the SimCity Societies article did around the time the game is released. That article seemed to became a venting place for fans of the game with it being highly unbalanced with a detailed controversy section. History appears to be repeating itself again here, with yet another appearance of a controversy section based on individial incidents from fan sites. Controversy/criticism sections are not banned but they are inherently non-neutral and can easily unbalance the article, and in games articles such a section is easily replaced by a reception section. Details of individial incidents from fan sites should not be mentioned unless they are reported by reliable sources. While I am not accusing fans of lying, it is very bad idea for Wikipedia to take at face value posts on forums which could be from just about anyone. I am planning to give this article a non-merciful clean-up shortly to deal with source reliablity, neutrality, and other issues. I am also planning to add an edit notice to alert new users to what should be in the article, and what shouldn't. Camaron · Christopher · talk 11:08, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I have given the article a clean-up. The article is shorter than it was but a less detailed well written article is better than a long badly written one. I have removed sources which are obviously not reliable and content reliant on it such as Cities XL, Simple (per above) and forum posts. I have left the SIMphoni and Simtropolis article sources for the moment although these are still questionable. I have removed the controversy section entirely, I am sure it was created in good faith, but as I have said above such section are not a sign of a well written article, and it was based mostly on either unsourced content or non-reliable sources, so had to go in its present state. I have also created an editnotice to give some information to future editors at Template:Editnotices/Page/Cities XL which will appear when users try and edit the article. It is based on other edit notices such as Template:Editnotices/Page/Eurovision Song Contest 2010. For security reasons edit notices can only be edited by admins, if anyone has any suggested changes, please make them on this talk page. Camaron · Christopher · talk 16:37, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
There have been repeated attempts in what appears to be an organised action to re-insert a controversy section. First off these attempts seem to be based on copying an older revision of the article text, rather than the underlying wikicode, resulting in broken references and no links. I have removed it again given the lack of explanation for re-insertion either here or in edit summaries, the lack of support for such content here, and as explained above the fact the section breaks a listable number of policies, guidelines, and general editing advice. Given that it is becoming disruptive, if this continues I will be considering further action including possibly requesting page semi-protection (I could do that myself but I am involved). Camaron · Christopher · talk 21:45, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
I have done a bit of research and it appears the section has been the subject of attention at Simtropolis, and also appears to being restored by someone from that fansite using a copy and paste of the version posted on that forum (hence the broken references). The section has also been cited in an Amazon user review under "Simcity societies all over again, a real letdown.,". No wonder perhaps that it keeps being restored. Camaron · Christopher · talk 10:59, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
I have tried to create a reception section, though the reviews don't appear to be out yet according to MetaCritic [3] and GameRankings [4], which such sections are usually based on. Once the reviews are out and a score exists a balanced reception section should be created. Camaron · Christopher · talk 16:01, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
I always get a little worried when a game's been out for 24 hours and there are no online reviews yet... I reckon a panning is coming! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.210.84 ( talk) 10:26, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Correct me if im wrong but isnt the bug in the Early-Bug-section fixed? I know that there was one but I didnt notice it at the end of the Beta.-- Christoffre ( talk) 17:11, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed things about a new deluxe version of the game, and rumors are that it comes out in march. The rumor can be tossed aside for now, it is oficcial that it exists. I suggest either adding it to cities xl page or making a a child page to the Cities xl page. Stuart 75.169.115.128 ( talk) 04:00, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
The Cities XL website has been relaunched yet again, resulting in a lot of dead links that will need to be fixed. The Internet Archive does not appear to have worked in this instance annoyingly. It would be good to avoid removing content just because its source has gone dead, so I will look into replacing the dead links. CT Cooper · talk 11:30, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
All dead links have now been replaced. The main area which now needs attention is the reception section, along with developments on Cities XL 2011. CT Cooper · talk 18:35, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Erhm, I'm not too sure what falls under the purview of 'Original Research' exactly, but I noticed mention of 'Focus Home Interactive' acquiring the license to Cities XL. There's one problem with this: as the game's publisher, Focus already had the license to the game to begin with. Essentially, the idea that Focus 'acquired' the license seems to be little more than spin intended to suggest that Focus wasn't involved with Cities XL (and part holder of the License) in the first place.
While commenting on that specifically isn't exactly encyclopaedic, would it be out of place to note in the article that Focus Home Interactive was in fact involved with the game from the start and did, thusly, not acquire the license only recently as their press release makes it appear? Robrecht ( talk) 22:58, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Hello. This is AzemOcram the primary contributor to the Wikia wiki (Wikia is some sort of sister company to Wikimedia or something like that, both are ran by that J Wells character). I was wondering whether I should mention the fact that Monte Cristo partnered with a lot companies to make revenue from the presence of certain buildings (Novotel, TransAm Pyramid, Tokyo Tower, Empire State Building, commercial and residential buildings designed by 2 architectural firms, etc) and advertising (Novotel, Ford, Mini, itself; Cities Unlimited had Coca-Cola advertisements but Coke dropped Monte Cristo). Is this a good idea? There is a lot of information that should be only on citiesxl.wikia.com and not en.wikipedia.org but a small section or a sentence might be good. This information was available at Monte Cristo's website and both the Cities Unlimited and Cities XL sites (both down now). I have not checked the Cities XL 2011 site for advertising partners but I know that the articles and blog posts are not officially hosted by Focus. -- Azemocram ( talk) 04:45, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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