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Of the list recently added, the following are not recognised as valid in the texts I have:
C. acutifolius
C. albanicus
C. albissimus
C. asperifolius
C. borgeanus = C. libanotis
C. braunii
C. brevifolius
C. campsii
C. canadensis
C. canescens = hybrid C. albus x C. incanus
C. capensis
C. chinamadensis
C. clausonii
C. confusus
C. coridifolius
I've been trying the following method: taking all the Cistus records in IPNI (there are about 500), and removing those that are marked as synonims of smth else. Indeed, this method is expected to yield about 80 species, but it's main problem is that one can't say anything about its degree of reliability.
Regarding your sources - I have some similar books, and all of them have different and partial lists of species (although all do claim total about 20). Their main problem is that they usually don't give any citations, so one can only rely on the quality of work of some particular author. But provided he had to describe hundreds of genera just to compile one single book, one should not expect he paid proper attention to each and every word in each description. So far I didn't encounter any reliable publication which would deal specifically with Cistus, and which would explain and substantiate thoroughly its position on the scope of species in this genus.
I will try to write some note regarding this issue in the article. Iorsh 12:56, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
See #Circumscription below. Peter coxhead ( talk) 21:09, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
A reasonably good circumscription of the genus Cistus is given by Ellul et al. (2002). This source is not original - it claims the information is due to Dansereau (1939) and Greuter et al. (1984). But since I don't have the latter two available, I set the former as the source in the article. If someone has access to any of them and can verify the list - please do so, and change the reference accordingly. Iorsh 17:20, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
See #Circumscription below. Peter coxhead ( talk) 21:09, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
...is this the plant David Attenburough talks about here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmCdNnT1J5M, at 2:13:32? If so, why doesn't this article talk about this plant spontaneously combusting? I want to know more about a plant that burst in to flame, how that works, and what it's all about. This article would be better if it talked about this, maybe the most interesting thing about the Cistus plant. Chrisrus ( talk) 08:36, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
The genus Cistus is well-known for its confused and confusing taxonomy, with very large numbers of synonyms. The number of species does seem to be settling down now, but it's important to use recent sources rather than old ones. I've revised the species list based on The Plant List plus a 2013 primary source for a few names. I've created articles for all the missing species in this list, and am currently expanding them from stubs. When I've finished, I intend to get back to this article and update it a bit more. Peter coxhead ( talk) 21:09, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
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Discovered the flower through it's mention in the book Phantastes by George MacDonald chapter 19 Scorde ( talk) 23:36, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
Cistus x icanus and others? makes a pretty tasty tea, tasting like oregano or marjoram, and its become somewhat popular. Would be useful to know which species are edible or toxic if there is any information on that. 90.247.229.178 ( talk) 18:47, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
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Of the list recently added, the following are not recognised as valid in the texts I have:
C. acutifolius
C. albanicus
C. albissimus
C. asperifolius
C. borgeanus = C. libanotis
C. braunii
C. brevifolius
C. campsii
C. canadensis
C. canescens = hybrid C. albus x C. incanus
C. capensis
C. chinamadensis
C. clausonii
C. confusus
C. coridifolius
I've been trying the following method: taking all the Cistus records in IPNI (there are about 500), and removing those that are marked as synonims of smth else. Indeed, this method is expected to yield about 80 species, but it's main problem is that one can't say anything about its degree of reliability.
Regarding your sources - I have some similar books, and all of them have different and partial lists of species (although all do claim total about 20). Their main problem is that they usually don't give any citations, so one can only rely on the quality of work of some particular author. But provided he had to describe hundreds of genera just to compile one single book, one should not expect he paid proper attention to each and every word in each description. So far I didn't encounter any reliable publication which would deal specifically with Cistus, and which would explain and substantiate thoroughly its position on the scope of species in this genus.
I will try to write some note regarding this issue in the article. Iorsh 12:56, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
See #Circumscription below. Peter coxhead ( talk) 21:09, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
A reasonably good circumscription of the genus Cistus is given by Ellul et al. (2002). This source is not original - it claims the information is due to Dansereau (1939) and Greuter et al. (1984). But since I don't have the latter two available, I set the former as the source in the article. If someone has access to any of them and can verify the list - please do so, and change the reference accordingly. Iorsh 17:20, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
See #Circumscription below. Peter coxhead ( talk) 21:09, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
...is this the plant David Attenburough talks about here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmCdNnT1J5M, at 2:13:32? If so, why doesn't this article talk about this plant spontaneously combusting? I want to know more about a plant that burst in to flame, how that works, and what it's all about. This article would be better if it talked about this, maybe the most interesting thing about the Cistus plant. Chrisrus ( talk) 08:36, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
The genus Cistus is well-known for its confused and confusing taxonomy, with very large numbers of synonyms. The number of species does seem to be settling down now, but it's important to use recent sources rather than old ones. I've revised the species list based on The Plant List plus a 2013 primary source for a few names. I've created articles for all the missing species in this list, and am currently expanding them from stubs. When I've finished, I intend to get back to this article and update it a bit more. Peter coxhead ( talk) 21:09, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
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Discovered the flower through it's mention in the book Phantastes by George MacDonald chapter 19 Scorde ( talk) 23:36, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
Cistus x icanus and others? makes a pretty tasty tea, tasting like oregano or marjoram, and its become somewhat popular. Would be useful to know which species are edible or toxic if there is any information on that. 90.247.229.178 ( talk) 18:47, 2 April 2024 (UTC)