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About the owner...

--- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:19, 10 September 2019 (UTC) reply

Sources

--- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:19, 10 September 2019 (UTC) reply

--- Another Believer ( Talk) 10:40, 2 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Closing Nov. 10

--- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:38, 1 November 2019 (UTC) reply

How much detail re: SUV incident?

How much detail should be included about the SUV incident? This is an article about the Cider Riot business, after all. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 04:58, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply

@ Llywrch: Any thoughts? I recall us briefly discussing this article in the past, perhaps on one of our user talk pages. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:08, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply
Since you asked... I definitely wouldn't add more detail. While I'll admit that I'm suspicious that an antifa activist was killed near Cider Riot -- could miscreants be targeting this business? -- no one has proven any solid connection between the two. Then again, if another attack on an antifa activist happens nearby IMHO it doesn't violate WP:NOR to mention that one, & let the reader draw their own conclusion. -- llywrch ( talk) 20:50, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply
Llywrch, Thanks. So are you comfortable with the current text or should some details be removed? I'm not sure how his "aliases" or alma mater are relevant. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 20:56, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply
Another Believer, I almost wrote that I thought there might be too much attention to this death, but after all it is a single paragraph of average size. I'll leave it to you to decide. -- llywrch ( talk) 20:58, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply
The deceased's aliases are entirely irrelevant to the article, IMHO. Grand'mere Eugene ( talk) 22:00, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply
Grand'mere Eugene, I agree. I've removed one sentence, and do share if you have any other thoughts on the rest of the paragraph. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:02, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply
Another Believer, The first two sentences and the sentence on Willamette Week's report tell pretty much the relevant facts for an encyclopedia. The rest qualifies as WP:UNDUE, unless the bar owner is a suspect. Again, in my opinion. Grand'mere Eugene ( talk) 22:31, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply
Grand'mere Eugene, Thanks. I've trimmed a bit more. Open to others' edits as well. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:35, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply

Status

@ Cedar777: Thanks for your work on this page. Any interest in nominating the article for Good article status? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:19, 10 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Additional sources

Potential sources to include in the article. Cedar777 ( talk) 21:41, 10 March 2021 (UTC) reply

  • Courthouse News February 26, 2021: Judge Rejects Far Right Leader’s Claims of ‘Political Persecution’ [1]

+1 Cedar777 ( talk) 15:24, 21 March 2021 (UTC) reply

+2 Cedar777 ( talk) 14:36, 26 May 2021 (UTC) reply

Reminder

Reminder to search for any coverage of a food menu to expand on the cider house description, and possibly add to Category:Defunct restaurants in Portland, Oregon? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:01, 11 March 2021 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

About the owner...

--- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:19, 10 September 2019 (UTC) reply

Sources

--- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:19, 10 September 2019 (UTC) reply

--- Another Believer ( Talk) 10:40, 2 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Closing Nov. 10

--- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:38, 1 November 2019 (UTC) reply

How much detail re: SUV incident?

How much detail should be included about the SUV incident? This is an article about the Cider Riot business, after all. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 04:58, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply

@ Llywrch: Any thoughts? I recall us briefly discussing this article in the past, perhaps on one of our user talk pages. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:08, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply
Since you asked... I definitely wouldn't add more detail. While I'll admit that I'm suspicious that an antifa activist was killed near Cider Riot -- could miscreants be targeting this business? -- no one has proven any solid connection between the two. Then again, if another attack on an antifa activist happens nearby IMHO it doesn't violate WP:NOR to mention that one, & let the reader draw their own conclusion. -- llywrch ( talk) 20:50, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply
Llywrch, Thanks. So are you comfortable with the current text or should some details be removed? I'm not sure how his "aliases" or alma mater are relevant. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 20:56, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply
Another Believer, I almost wrote that I thought there might be too much attention to this death, but after all it is a single paragraph of average size. I'll leave it to you to decide. -- llywrch ( talk) 20:58, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply
The deceased's aliases are entirely irrelevant to the article, IMHO. Grand'mere Eugene ( talk) 22:00, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply
Grand'mere Eugene, I agree. I've removed one sentence, and do share if you have any other thoughts on the rest of the paragraph. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:02, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply
Another Believer, The first two sentences and the sentence on Willamette Week's report tell pretty much the relevant facts for an encyclopedia. The rest qualifies as WP:UNDUE, unless the bar owner is a suspect. Again, in my opinion. Grand'mere Eugene ( talk) 22:31, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply
Grand'mere Eugene, Thanks. I've trimmed a bit more. Open to others' edits as well. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:35, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply

Status

@ Cedar777: Thanks for your work on this page. Any interest in nominating the article for Good article status? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:19, 10 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Additional sources

Potential sources to include in the article. Cedar777 ( talk) 21:41, 10 March 2021 (UTC) reply

  • Courthouse News February 26, 2021: Judge Rejects Far Right Leader’s Claims of ‘Political Persecution’ [1]

+1 Cedar777 ( talk) 15:24, 21 March 2021 (UTC) reply

+2 Cedar777 ( talk) 14:36, 26 May 2021 (UTC) reply

Reminder

Reminder to search for any coverage of a food menu to expand on the cider house description, and possibly add to Category:Defunct restaurants in Portland, Oregon? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:01, 11 March 2021 (UTC) reply


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