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Thanks @ Jax MN for all your help with this article. Given your experience with the subject matter, what's your take on whether the multi-cultural expansion list? As a reader with zero familiarity with the subject, I'm not sure why they're distinct from the main list. Do you think an intro line on the main list would help or is it something folks would generally know? Thanks either way Star Mississippi 16:57, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
I'm working on the table, regarding what columns to include, to aid in sorting.
I had to include Christian as the first item, even though these groups all claim a Christian mission. Thus this fact is redundant, in a way. (I had a manager proofread a training document once. He said, "I want you to bold everything, and italicize everything, and underline these words." --I showed him the before-and-after, and explained that when you bold and italicize everything you merely are changing the font. Hence, in such a document, NOTHING is bolded, and NOTHING is italicized, defeating one's very purpose of somehow enhancing emphasis. It's the same thing here: The entire category is "Christian", so it is redundant to include that word. But doing so will avoid many, many 'helpful' edits, often anonymous, saying "Oh, unlike these others, we're the Christian ones."
Three big groupings seem to be coalescing. The first are the traditional, collegiate organizations which are primarily social but with added guardrails on their programming that add specific Christian or sect-based functions like bible studies, a morals chair, or certain overtly religious themes in their initiation rituals. These are all integrated (racially) but not devoutly multicultural. These groups typically conference with the NPC sororities. The second group are primarily non-collegiate, multicultural (almost exclusively Black as opposed to Hispanic or Asian), and more recently formed, which all seem to most closely follow the model of the Divine nine Black-Greek organizations, adding a Christian focus. These often feature Step shows, hand signs (also used by some of the traditional sororities), and elaborate, embroidered satin jackets. Like the Divine nine, they are notable for bridging the gap between collegians and graduates, and may have both collegiate and non-collegiate chapters. Their trade association may be the United Council of Christian Fraternities and Sororities (UCCFS), but some operate independently. A third group, also non-collegiate, independent groups, appears to be groups formed by a persistent, visible "visionary" founder, operating as an outreach mission and often with a singular purpose (teen pregnancy support, networking, or simply proselytizing are three examples.) These may also accrue a fundraising or revenue benefit to the founder(s), who may be a pastor, motivational speaker or self-help counselor. This founder's role is absent in the first two types of Christian sororities.
Hence, the two descriptive categories that appear to work best are:
Emphasis - Christian, and their affinity. Are they primarily social (with guardrails?) Is their most obvious characteristic to be multicultural?
Type - used to distinguish Collegiate and Non-collegiate
I'm working to complete the table with these columns, and will revise if a better solution appears. References link back to national websites where available. Not Facebook or instagram sites, following a general Wikipedia guideline: Wikipedia is NOT a directory; the reference links to national websites merely help prove existence.
Finally, note, some of these Redlinked groups have previously had articles, but which have been deleted because of lack of notability, or lack of external references. Wikipedia is not a place to publish essays about how wonderful a group is, or to plagiarize the same content off of a group's national website. These articles may be rewritten with new, summarized content and with valid references. The Fraternity and Sorority Project supports inclusion if a 'national' has installed three or more chapters and can provide independent, valid citations showing existence. Local chapters of short tenure have a much harder time proving notability. Jax MN ( talk) 17:09, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
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Thanks @ Jax MN for all your help with this article. Given your experience with the subject matter, what's your take on whether the multi-cultural expansion list? As a reader with zero familiarity with the subject, I'm not sure why they're distinct from the main list. Do you think an intro line on the main list would help or is it something folks would generally know? Thanks either way Star Mississippi 16:57, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
I'm working on the table, regarding what columns to include, to aid in sorting.
I had to include Christian as the first item, even though these groups all claim a Christian mission. Thus this fact is redundant, in a way. (I had a manager proofread a training document once. He said, "I want you to bold everything, and italicize everything, and underline these words." --I showed him the before-and-after, and explained that when you bold and italicize everything you merely are changing the font. Hence, in such a document, NOTHING is bolded, and NOTHING is italicized, defeating one's very purpose of somehow enhancing emphasis. It's the same thing here: The entire category is "Christian", so it is redundant to include that word. But doing so will avoid many, many 'helpful' edits, often anonymous, saying "Oh, unlike these others, we're the Christian ones."
Three big groupings seem to be coalescing. The first are the traditional, collegiate organizations which are primarily social but with added guardrails on their programming that add specific Christian or sect-based functions like bible studies, a morals chair, or certain overtly religious themes in their initiation rituals. These are all integrated (racially) but not devoutly multicultural. These groups typically conference with the NPC sororities. The second group are primarily non-collegiate, multicultural (almost exclusively Black as opposed to Hispanic or Asian), and more recently formed, which all seem to most closely follow the model of the Divine nine Black-Greek organizations, adding a Christian focus. These often feature Step shows, hand signs (also used by some of the traditional sororities), and elaborate, embroidered satin jackets. Like the Divine nine, they are notable for bridging the gap between collegians and graduates, and may have both collegiate and non-collegiate chapters. Their trade association may be the United Council of Christian Fraternities and Sororities (UCCFS), but some operate independently. A third group, also non-collegiate, independent groups, appears to be groups formed by a persistent, visible "visionary" founder, operating as an outreach mission and often with a singular purpose (teen pregnancy support, networking, or simply proselytizing are three examples.) These may also accrue a fundraising or revenue benefit to the founder(s), who may be a pastor, motivational speaker or self-help counselor. This founder's role is absent in the first two types of Christian sororities.
Hence, the two descriptive categories that appear to work best are:
Emphasis - Christian, and their affinity. Are they primarily social (with guardrails?) Is their most obvious characteristic to be multicultural?
Type - used to distinguish Collegiate and Non-collegiate
I'm working to complete the table with these columns, and will revise if a better solution appears. References link back to national websites where available. Not Facebook or instagram sites, following a general Wikipedia guideline: Wikipedia is NOT a directory; the reference links to national websites merely help prove existence.
Finally, note, some of these Redlinked groups have previously had articles, but which have been deleted because of lack of notability, or lack of external references. Wikipedia is not a place to publish essays about how wonderful a group is, or to plagiarize the same content off of a group's national website. These articles may be rewritten with new, summarized content and with valid references. The Fraternity and Sorority Project supports inclusion if a 'national' has installed three or more chapters and can provide independent, valid citations showing existence. Local chapters of short tenure have a much harder time proving notability. Jax MN ( talk) 17:09, 6 April 2022 (UTC)