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Any info on "eam" for "(two) rivers" in Old English, and cognates in other languages? I'm intrigued. Xipirho ( talk) 16:57, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
[Christchurch]... was known formerly as Twynam ‘Place between the Rivers’. It was subsequently renamed Christecerce ‘Church of Christ’ from the Old English Crist and cirice ‘church’
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14:14, 25 June 2010 (UTC)How is it that Thomas Hardy is ignored having based one of the greatest Victorian Novels, Jude the Obscure, partly in Christchurch? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.189.85.234 ( talk) 16:58, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
I remembered this as The Quomps, but then found it on a map and misread it as The Quomp. I have now used a magnifying glass. (O.S. Outdoor Leisure series map No. 22, New Forest.)) Apologies for this lapse from the standard I aim at.
While writing, is there any way that the Article Assessment can be dated on this page? I found the History page shows it as November 2007, and some of the issues on the assessment may now have been covered. Robert of Ramsor ( talk) 13:16, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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Now I am going to be honest here. I have not read the prose; checked the references; checked the wikilinks; checked images; or checked anything I have not mentioned above (erm, yet!). If the above helps great. If not, feel free to say so on my talk page. And remember, I have only been a wikipedian for three weeks.
-- Senra ( talk) 19:48, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
A minor point I suspect. The word Nazi in the lead and body of the article, when referring to one of the protagonists in WWII, should read Nazi Germany. It was not the Nazi political party itself which directly threatened England. -- Senra ( talk) 11:45, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
No, you're quite right, I just thought it read better. I made the link go to Nazi Germany but that was probably insufficient. I will have another look at it. Regards-- Ykraps ( talk) 18:02, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
As requested, here is a second look at the article to follow up on the Peer review I did back in July.
If a link is dead, look for replacements for it. The original website may just have moved (so I just checked and the bus timetable is dead - my guess is a new timetable is probably up on the web somewhere). You can also check the archives at the Wayback Machine or WebCite (the latter website lets you back things up). See also WP:LINKROT Ruhrfisch ><>°° 21:20, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
I think there is too much about the airfield in here. The text should be added to RAF Christchurch leaving a short summary here and a link to RAF Christchurch.
I think this article should have a little section listing the historical districts of Christchurch:
I think eventually they will all have their own articles.-- Penbat ( talk) 19:55, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
I notice that the Bournemouth historical districts are all separate articles (see Category:Geography of Bournemouth) and it includes Wick and Holdenhurst. But they are tucked away in the Category:Geography of Bournemouth category. The Christchurch districts are tucked away in the Category:Districts of Christchurch, Dorset category which is itself a subcategory of Category:Geography of Christchurch, Dorset.
So the issue is not whether the Christchurch districts i have listed above should be separate articles (yes they should although Wick has already been done), but if there should be a short section in this article listing the districts to give them more prominence. The same point applies to the Bournemouth article as well.
So articles on Iford, Purewell, Somerford, Stanpit and Tuckton remain to be done and maybe Friars Cliff.-- Penbat ( talk) 09:56, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Firstly excellent work on the article much improved. I note a contradiction on dates of the castle From the History section: : Sometime early in the 12th century, Christchurch got its castle. Originally a wooden fort built by Richard de Redvers, first cousin to King Henry I, it was later rebuilt in stone by Baldwin de Redvers to resist King Stephen during the civil war with the Empress Matilda.
From Landmarks: Christchurch castle Christchurch Castle is of Norman origin and of a motte and bailey construction. There has been a castle on this spot since 924 AD when; after Aethelwold captured the town ramparts in 901 AD, Edward the Elder decided to fortify the town further with a wooden fort on a motte.[18]
Is the 924AD date proven and is it on the site of the present castle. Phil Whiston ( talk) 16:25, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
For those interested I have created a new Stanpit stub article.-- Penbat ( talk) 10:13, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Ive started a test Christchurch general purpose template User:Penbat/template:Christchurch, Dorset. Seems like a good idea. Any ideas for what else to put into it ? IMO the same ought to be done for Bmouth and Poole.-- Penbat ( talk) 19:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
I've added some stuff to the template but I see you already know this. You've included Iford and Tuckton which were ceded to Bmth in 1931 and 1895 respectively. If we're including historic districts, should we also include Wick, Hengistbury Head, Pokesdown, Holdenhurst, Holmsley? Pending further investigation, what about Throop, Walkford, Bransgore, Avon? (actually I think Avon was always in Ringwood). You could also add Holmsley to the list of railway stations as this was the original Christchurch stop (known as Christchurch Road).-- Ykraps ( talk) 08:02, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
P.S. Not sure about Verwood. As far as I know it is East Dorset now but was historically part of Cranborne.-- Ykraps ( talk) 08:08, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not going to happen. Ucucha 12:15, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Christchurch, Dorset →
Christchurch — As this is the English section of the encyclopedia, I would have thought that this page should be the
prime topic.
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Linkrot: none found. Jezhotwells ( talk) 00:37, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
I concur. Pass. TeacherA ( talk) 00:53, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Christchurch was moved from the county of Hampshire to Dorset. The Geography section covering this needs to be worked very carefully. Andrew Swallow ( talk) 05:26, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
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I suggest splitting this into an article for the district at Borough of Christchurch like what was done with Preston, Lancashire and City of Preston, Lancashire. See WP:UKDISTRICTS. As can be seen at Christchurch, Dorset#Governance the boundaries are recent and are larger than the town's. The district is due to be abolished next year so the current content would probably be inappropriate anyway. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 10:34, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
I have taken the liberty of removing the split message from the article, since as of April 1st there is no Borough of Christchurch anymore. JoshTilley ( talk) 14:34, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Having 'Christchurch' as its name, I am sure many people will be curious to wonder are there many Christians in Christchurch today? As one who is used to seeing figures about percentages of the local population who declared in census what religion they were, it would be good to see it mentioned in the Demography or Religion section of this Good Article. Note that religion figures are given in the wiki article on the town's great New Zealand namesake city. Cloptonson ( talk) 07:17, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Nowadays Bournemouth, Poole and Christchurch are separate parishes although part of a unitary authority. The Christchurch article covers the town and civil parish of Christchurch, as stated in the lead, which does not include Hurn, which is a separate parish. If you look at
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If this article is now about the civil parish and therefore excludes the airport then we could do with a new article on the former borough which can include the airport. Eopsid ( talk) 10:52, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
I don't think the issue is as complex as it seems. Although the airport is no longer within the Borough of Christchurch it is still a notable transport hub in the immediate area, so mentioning it in the 'Transport' subsection of the Christchurch article is appropriate. This follows the precedent set at Bournemouth#Transport and Poole#Transport; for an example outside Dorset, Knutsford#Transport mentions Manchester Airport despite being in neighbouring Cheshire. As at those articles, it shouldn't be mentioned in the lead. A.D.Hope ( talk) 12:07, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
OK, I've just had a chance to take a proper look through the economy section, and it would benefit from a more thorough rework than just addressing the airport question:
Some of what's missing:
This whole section feels like it's a bit stuck in the late '00s and not how we'd write a section on the economy of Christchurch if we were starting from a blank page today, and not just because of the abolition of the borough. -- Joe D (t) 11:53, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
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Any info on "eam" for "(two) rivers" in Old English, and cognates in other languages? I'm intrigued. Xipirho ( talk) 16:57, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
[Christchurch]... was known formerly as Twynam ‘Place between the Rivers’. It was subsequently renamed Christecerce ‘Church of Christ’ from the Old English Crist and cirice ‘church’
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14:14, 25 June 2010 (UTC)How is it that Thomas Hardy is ignored having based one of the greatest Victorian Novels, Jude the Obscure, partly in Christchurch? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.189.85.234 ( talk) 16:58, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
I remembered this as The Quomps, but then found it on a map and misread it as The Quomp. I have now used a magnifying glass. (O.S. Outdoor Leisure series map No. 22, New Forest.)) Apologies for this lapse from the standard I aim at.
While writing, is there any way that the Article Assessment can be dated on this page? I found the History page shows it as November 2007, and some of the issues on the assessment may now have been covered. Robert of Ramsor ( talk) 13:16, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Category:To do,WikiProject Dorset
This is not a review. Just some comments from an interested editor. I have only been a wikipedia editor for 3 weeks so take what I am about to say accordingly. In any event, my comments should be taken constructively as intended.
Now I am going to be honest here. I have not read the prose; checked the references; checked the wikilinks; checked images; or checked anything I have not mentioned above (erm, yet!). If the above helps great. If not, feel free to say so on my talk page. And remember, I have only been a wikipedian for three weeks.
-- Senra ( talk) 19:48, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
A minor point I suspect. The word Nazi in the lead and body of the article, when referring to one of the protagonists in WWII, should read Nazi Germany. It was not the Nazi political party itself which directly threatened England. -- Senra ( talk) 11:45, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
No, you're quite right, I just thought it read better. I made the link go to Nazi Germany but that was probably insufficient. I will have another look at it. Regards-- Ykraps ( talk) 18:02, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
As requested, here is a second look at the article to follow up on the Peer review I did back in July.
If a link is dead, look for replacements for it. The original website may just have moved (so I just checked and the bus timetable is dead - my guess is a new timetable is probably up on the web somewhere). You can also check the archives at the Wayback Machine or WebCite (the latter website lets you back things up). See also WP:LINKROT Ruhrfisch ><>°° 21:20, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
I think there is too much about the airfield in here. The text should be added to RAF Christchurch leaving a short summary here and a link to RAF Christchurch.
I think this article should have a little section listing the historical districts of Christchurch:
I think eventually they will all have their own articles.-- Penbat ( talk) 19:55, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
I notice that the Bournemouth historical districts are all separate articles (see Category:Geography of Bournemouth) and it includes Wick and Holdenhurst. But they are tucked away in the Category:Geography of Bournemouth category. The Christchurch districts are tucked away in the Category:Districts of Christchurch, Dorset category which is itself a subcategory of Category:Geography of Christchurch, Dorset.
So the issue is not whether the Christchurch districts i have listed above should be separate articles (yes they should although Wick has already been done), but if there should be a short section in this article listing the districts to give them more prominence. The same point applies to the Bournemouth article as well.
So articles on Iford, Purewell, Somerford, Stanpit and Tuckton remain to be done and maybe Friars Cliff.-- Penbat ( talk) 09:56, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Firstly excellent work on the article much improved. I note a contradiction on dates of the castle From the History section: : Sometime early in the 12th century, Christchurch got its castle. Originally a wooden fort built by Richard de Redvers, first cousin to King Henry I, it was later rebuilt in stone by Baldwin de Redvers to resist King Stephen during the civil war with the Empress Matilda.
From Landmarks: Christchurch castle Christchurch Castle is of Norman origin and of a motte and bailey construction. There has been a castle on this spot since 924 AD when; after Aethelwold captured the town ramparts in 901 AD, Edward the Elder decided to fortify the town further with a wooden fort on a motte.[18]
Is the 924AD date proven and is it on the site of the present castle. Phil Whiston ( talk) 16:25, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
For those interested I have created a new Stanpit stub article.-- Penbat ( talk) 10:13, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Ive started a test Christchurch general purpose template User:Penbat/template:Christchurch, Dorset. Seems like a good idea. Any ideas for what else to put into it ? IMO the same ought to be done for Bmouth and Poole.-- Penbat ( talk) 19:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
I've added some stuff to the template but I see you already know this. You've included Iford and Tuckton which were ceded to Bmth in 1931 and 1895 respectively. If we're including historic districts, should we also include Wick, Hengistbury Head, Pokesdown, Holdenhurst, Holmsley? Pending further investigation, what about Throop, Walkford, Bransgore, Avon? (actually I think Avon was always in Ringwood). You could also add Holmsley to the list of railway stations as this was the original Christchurch stop (known as Christchurch Road).-- Ykraps ( talk) 08:02, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
P.S. Not sure about Verwood. As far as I know it is East Dorset now but was historically part of Cranborne.-- Ykraps ( talk) 08:08, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not going to happen. Ucucha 12:15, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Christchurch, Dorset →
Christchurch — As this is the English section of the encyclopedia, I would have thought that this page should be the
prime topic.
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This is one great article! I will review it after the Mitt Romney article is concluded. I have high hopes because the article is so good! TeacherA ( talk) 00:45, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.
Disambiguations: none found.
Linkrot: none found. Jezhotwells ( talk) 00:37, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
I concur. Pass. TeacherA ( talk) 00:53, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Christchurch was moved from the county of Hampshire to Dorset. The Geography section covering this needs to be worked very carefully. Andrew Swallow ( talk) 05:26, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
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I suggest splitting this into an article for the district at Borough of Christchurch like what was done with Preston, Lancashire and City of Preston, Lancashire. See WP:UKDISTRICTS. As can be seen at Christchurch, Dorset#Governance the boundaries are recent and are larger than the town's. The district is due to be abolished next year so the current content would probably be inappropriate anyway. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 10:34, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
I have taken the liberty of removing the split message from the article, since as of April 1st there is no Borough of Christchurch anymore. JoshTilley ( talk) 14:34, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Having 'Christchurch' as its name, I am sure many people will be curious to wonder are there many Christians in Christchurch today? As one who is used to seeing figures about percentages of the local population who declared in census what religion they were, it would be good to see it mentioned in the Demography or Religion section of this Good Article. Note that religion figures are given in the wiki article on the town's great New Zealand namesake city. Cloptonson ( talk) 07:17, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Nowadays Bournemouth, Poole and Christchurch are separate parishes although part of a unitary authority. The Christchurch article covers the town and civil parish of Christchurch, as stated in the lead, which does not include Hurn, which is a separate parish. If you look at
www
If this article is now about the civil parish and therefore excludes the airport then we could do with a new article on the former borough which can include the airport. Eopsid ( talk) 10:52, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
I don't think the issue is as complex as it seems. Although the airport is no longer within the Borough of Christchurch it is still a notable transport hub in the immediate area, so mentioning it in the 'Transport' subsection of the Christchurch article is appropriate. This follows the precedent set at Bournemouth#Transport and Poole#Transport; for an example outside Dorset, Knutsford#Transport mentions Manchester Airport despite being in neighbouring Cheshire. As at those articles, it shouldn't be mentioned in the lead. A.D.Hope ( talk) 12:07, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
OK, I've just had a chance to take a proper look through the economy section, and it would benefit from a more thorough rework than just addressing the airport question:
Some of what's missing:
This whole section feels like it's a bit stuck in the late '00s and not how we'd write a section on the economy of Christchurch if we were starting from a blank page today, and not just because of the abolition of the borough. -- Joe D (t) 11:53, 3 April 2022 (UTC)