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The section on the Baliunas & Soon paper is (to my eyes) very much written in a POV style. All the references are from one side of the controversy - and no attempt is being made to balance the views. (see for instance Hans von Storch for another viewpoint - and references to such. -- Kim D. Petersen 00:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Arguments for deleting the notability questioned tag:
Finally - in my opinion the only thing that comes close to notability for de Freitas so far, is that he was involved in the Climate Change journal controversy. Something which is interesting - but not enough (imho) for notability. -- Kim D. Petersen 13:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
First off, he's an editor of the journal Research
Secondly, selected notability guidelines from here:
He was an expert IPCC reviewer! "He was an expert reviewer of the 1995 and the 2001 Scientific Assessment Reports of UN's IPCC, and the UK Department of the Environment 1996 Report Potential Effects of Climate Change in the United Kingdom. [3] Removing "not notable" tag. ross nixon 04:27, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
(dedent) I just calculated his H-index - it comes to a staggering 7. -- Kim D. Petersen 17:21, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Please be reasonable, Chris de Freitas is notable, probably twice: academic and 'regular' notability(notorious?) Reporters refer to him as a 'leading sceptic' and he writes in major papers as a Guest Columnist because of his notability. 65.12.145.148 03:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
If someone gets around to editing, here are 2 (non-RS) sources that have many RS references, complaints from students and Pals Reviews @ CR. For what it's worth, I'd say that de Freitas will indeed be notable for the 1997-2003 history, something rare in science publishing. JohnMashey ( talk) 06:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
OrenO - i do not consider this a "pissing contest" as you say... But the article has to provide sufficient reasons for de Freitas notability - his is not my policy, but wikipedia's. If you want me to desist - then provide the reasoning. So far we've been through: 1. publication record/citations - argument fails (as per above). 2. Regarded as an expert - this is within academia, not what some random Op-Ed says. 3. same as 2 for regular notability - but within the journalistic area (again not Op-Ed's) we're now talking regular notability) - so far i haven't seen much. According to policy - notability has to be shown - otherwise the tag should change into a AfD - the tag itself doesn't dispute notability, its requests that notability is shown. Please do not revert without showing this. -- Kim D. Petersen 19:55, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
This guy is a junior professor who comes on TV in New Zealand from time to time offering crap as views. He is irrelevant and should be consigned to the dustbin of history. Anthropogenic Climate Change is real. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnobrien98 ( talk • contribs) 13:26, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia policies on biographies of living persons require that "unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material — whether negative, positive, or just questionable — about living persons should be removed immediately and without discussion from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, user pages, and project space." This article contains a distressing amount of such material. In accordance with policy, I'm removing it. If someone can find reliable third-party sources for such material, please restore it with proper citations. Several of the quotations and other views attributed to the subject have been found to point to dead links, which I have deleted. Raymond Arritt 16:47, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
A very large edit was made by 222.153.36.128. I have reverted it for now because it is so overwhelmingly large, and will go to his talk page to ask him to discuss it here. -- TS 03:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Well thanks for letting me know. Have you checked that the old version you restored complies with all Wikipedia policies? -- TS 04:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
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The section on the Baliunas & Soon paper is (to my eyes) very much written in a POV style. All the references are from one side of the controversy - and no attempt is being made to balance the views. (see for instance Hans von Storch for another viewpoint - and references to such. -- Kim D. Petersen 00:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Arguments for deleting the notability questioned tag:
Finally - in my opinion the only thing that comes close to notability for de Freitas so far, is that he was involved in the Climate Change journal controversy. Something which is interesting - but not enough (imho) for notability. -- Kim D. Petersen 13:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
First off, he's an editor of the journal Research
Secondly, selected notability guidelines from here:
He was an expert IPCC reviewer! "He was an expert reviewer of the 1995 and the 2001 Scientific Assessment Reports of UN's IPCC, and the UK Department of the Environment 1996 Report Potential Effects of Climate Change in the United Kingdom. [3] Removing "not notable" tag. ross nixon 04:27, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
(dedent) I just calculated his H-index - it comes to a staggering 7. -- Kim D. Petersen 17:21, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Please be reasonable, Chris de Freitas is notable, probably twice: academic and 'regular' notability(notorious?) Reporters refer to him as a 'leading sceptic' and he writes in major papers as a Guest Columnist because of his notability. 65.12.145.148 03:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
If someone gets around to editing, here are 2 (non-RS) sources that have many RS references, complaints from students and Pals Reviews @ CR. For what it's worth, I'd say that de Freitas will indeed be notable for the 1997-2003 history, something rare in science publishing. JohnMashey ( talk) 06:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
OrenO - i do not consider this a "pissing contest" as you say... But the article has to provide sufficient reasons for de Freitas notability - his is not my policy, but wikipedia's. If you want me to desist - then provide the reasoning. So far we've been through: 1. publication record/citations - argument fails (as per above). 2. Regarded as an expert - this is within academia, not what some random Op-Ed says. 3. same as 2 for regular notability - but within the journalistic area (again not Op-Ed's) we're now talking regular notability) - so far i haven't seen much. According to policy - notability has to be shown - otherwise the tag should change into a AfD - the tag itself doesn't dispute notability, its requests that notability is shown. Please do not revert without showing this. -- Kim D. Petersen 19:55, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
This guy is a junior professor who comes on TV in New Zealand from time to time offering crap as views. He is irrelevant and should be consigned to the dustbin of history. Anthropogenic Climate Change is real. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnobrien98 ( talk • contribs) 13:26, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia policies on biographies of living persons require that "unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material — whether negative, positive, or just questionable — about living persons should be removed immediately and without discussion from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, user pages, and project space." This article contains a distressing amount of such material. In accordance with policy, I'm removing it. If someone can find reliable third-party sources for such material, please restore it with proper citations. Several of the quotations and other views attributed to the subject have been found to point to dead links, which I have deleted. Raymond Arritt 16:47, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
A very large edit was made by 222.153.36.128. I have reverted it for now because it is so overwhelmingly large, and will go to his talk page to ask him to discuss it here. -- TS 03:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Well thanks for letting me know. Have you checked that the old version you restored complies with all Wikipedia policies? -- TS 04:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Please note that, by a decision of the Wikipedia community, this article and others relating to climate change (broadly construed) has been placed under article probation. Editors making disruptive edits may be blocked temporarily from editing the encyclopedia, or subject to other administrative remedies, according to standards that may be higher than elsewhere on Wikipedia. Please see Wikipedia:General sanctions/Climate change probation for full information and to review the decision. -- ChrisO ( talk) 15:56, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
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