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Quote: "and the piano (which, although sometimes called a string instrument, is also called a keyboard instrument and a percussion instrument)." Seriously, does anyone call a piano a percussion instrument? —Preceding unsigned comment added by YellowOnline ( talk • contribs) 19:45, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Chordophone and String Instrument should be merged. Both terms mean the same thing.-- ॐ (Aum) ( talk) 12:22, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Chordophone divides to "Simple chordophones or zithers (31)", "Composite chordophones (32)" and "Unclassified chordophones (33)". String instruments are Bowed string instrument or Plucked string instrument.
Do not merge this articles! -- Drakosh ( talk) 18:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
The two terms are used in different contexts. I do not agree with the merge, but if the pages ought to be merged, it should be clearly stated that the words are used in different contexts.
“String instrument”, “percussion instrument”, “wind instrument”, “keyboard instrument” are labels used in “Western” (i.e., European tradition) culture. In India or in China, for instance, classifications are different. Traditionaly, in European culture, the instruments are classified from the player’s point of view (the player hits, the player blows, the player plucks or bows a string, etc.).
“Aerophone”, “Chordophone”, “Electrophone”, “Idiophone”, “Membranophone” are labels used in scientific classifications, which intend to be more precise and universal. In scientific classifications instruments are classified accordingly to the sound producing method.
The two series of labels should not be mixed, and each label should be used carefully. There is no one to one correspondance. As an example, a piano is indeed a cordophone, but it is traditionaly classified as a “keyboard instrument”, not a “string instrument”.
Ten Islands (
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08:54, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
This is an ancient conversation, but adding new material. Two more instruments that cause confusion in string instrument vs. chordophones are tube zithers and raft zithers. Each instrument can be strung with modern strings. However, the originals used strips or cords of bamboo peeled up and raised on bridges. I'm not sure if these cords are strings or not. They can be either plucked or hammered with a stick/mallet, and they can sound either zither-like or gong/drum-like. Tone changes on them depending on materials, and (like hammered dulcimer vs. piano vs. harpsichord) how the cords are sounded. Jacqke ( talk) 18:26, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Seeing how nobody has enough interest in this article to improve it, are there still objections to merging it with String Instruments? Jacqke ( talk) 01:05, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
I'm merging this soon, unless someone shows up to make objections. My arguement:
Please answer this at Talk:String instrument#Merge take 2 Jacqke ( talk) 16:39, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
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Quote: "and the piano (which, although sometimes called a string instrument, is also called a keyboard instrument and a percussion instrument)." Seriously, does anyone call a piano a percussion instrument? —Preceding unsigned comment added by YellowOnline ( talk • contribs) 19:45, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Chordophone and String Instrument should be merged. Both terms mean the same thing.-- ॐ (Aum) ( talk) 12:22, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Chordophone divides to "Simple chordophones or zithers (31)", "Composite chordophones (32)" and "Unclassified chordophones (33)". String instruments are Bowed string instrument or Plucked string instrument.
Do not merge this articles! -- Drakosh ( talk) 18:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
The two terms are used in different contexts. I do not agree with the merge, but if the pages ought to be merged, it should be clearly stated that the words are used in different contexts.
“String instrument”, “percussion instrument”, “wind instrument”, “keyboard instrument” are labels used in “Western” (i.e., European tradition) culture. In India or in China, for instance, classifications are different. Traditionaly, in European culture, the instruments are classified from the player’s point of view (the player hits, the player blows, the player plucks or bows a string, etc.).
“Aerophone”, “Chordophone”, “Electrophone”, “Idiophone”, “Membranophone” are labels used in scientific classifications, which intend to be more precise and universal. In scientific classifications instruments are classified accordingly to the sound producing method.
The two series of labels should not be mixed, and each label should be used carefully. There is no one to one correspondance. As an example, a piano is indeed a cordophone, but it is traditionaly classified as a “keyboard instrument”, not a “string instrument”.
Ten Islands (
talk)
08:54, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
This is an ancient conversation, but adding new material. Two more instruments that cause confusion in string instrument vs. chordophones are tube zithers and raft zithers. Each instrument can be strung with modern strings. However, the originals used strips or cords of bamboo peeled up and raised on bridges. I'm not sure if these cords are strings or not. They can be either plucked or hammered with a stick/mallet, and they can sound either zither-like or gong/drum-like. Tone changes on them depending on materials, and (like hammered dulcimer vs. piano vs. harpsichord) how the cords are sounded. Jacqke ( talk) 18:26, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Seeing how nobody has enough interest in this article to improve it, are there still objections to merging it with String Instruments? Jacqke ( talk) 01:05, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
I'm merging this soon, unless someone shows up to make objections. My arguement:
Please answer this at Talk:String instrument#Merge take 2 Jacqke ( talk) 16:39, 26 January 2021 (UTC)