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"Designed straight off the drawing board"? As opposed to some other way? I changed it to "produced", what the original writer obviously intended. Trekphiler 04:53, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
I made a big change by adding "for over a decade they went, but were then discontinued" :) Whopper 02:37, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
I added the User-Manual link. It's a nice thing to be able to look at, and also, if anybody has attempted a Google search for one, they're near-impossible to find. -- Shadic 31 July, 2006
One: (Note article lists Vega / Monza, Chevette then Cavalier which means this article establishes a lineage) http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=109161 The old Vega bodies remained unchanged through 1979 and dribbled out a few more sales before leaving the Monza and Chevette to continue on with negligible effect in the small-car market through 1980 and 1981 until the arrival of the Cavalier (note placement of Monza and Chevette in small-car market, showing Cavalier replaced both in terms of stronger sales)
First-Generation Cavalier: 1982-1994 After introducing the front-drive Citation as replacement for the Nova during the 1980 model year, it was no surprise that Chevrolet would introduce a front-drive machine in the empty spot in its lineup left when the Vega and Monza disappeared, just above the decrepit Chevette. The 1982 Cavalier would be that car
Two: (This fellow also recognizes obvious Cavalier as successor to Chevette) http://sev2maryann.severnschool.com/student_life/ms_classes/gyost/hobbies/yostcars.htm
Depending on the model it was roomier, bigger, more comfortable, safer, sportier, and in some versions more economical than its' competitors including the Rabbit/Golf, Fiesta and Pinto (and their successor Escort), and the Chevette (and its successor the Cavalier).
Three: (Establishes lineage starting with chevette, which was preceded by Vega, then Cavalier as the next car from GM) http://www.carguidemagazine.com/archive/apr2005/roadTests/chev_cobalt.php GM's small car blues are over Story & photos by Michael Bettencourt GM promised more than a few times a compact car that could compete with the best the Japanese had to offer. First with the Chevrolet Chevette, then the Cavalier, then it found a radically larger pail of money to put behind the effort in 1990 with the introduction of the Saturn brand.
Four: (And the wagon which replaced the chevette / vega was.. Not the Cavalier??) Chevy Vega Station Wagon - Jul 24... Chevette which essentially replaced the Vega as Chevy's Chevy Station Wagon ... Chevy Car Cover-Chevy Corvette Camaro Cavalier Malibu Silverado Tahoe . ... findit1.info/station-wagon/chevy-vega-station-wagon.php
Five: (also establishes lineage violated by previous WP successor listing, though Apolloboy would object to Corvair connection as much as matador / premier connection, but connection is there, though debatable whether Corvair / Chevy II is a sub/compact relationship, Chevy II was an alternative engine compact) http://www.internetautoguide.com/reviews/45-int/compact-cars/chevrolet/cobalt/2005/index.html a transportation appliance in the longtime Chevrolet mold of the Corvair, the Vega, the Chevette, the Monza, and most recently the Cavalier.
Six: (another misinformed editor? ) http://www.autobytel.com/content/research/index.cfm?id=4;ABTL&action=ShowArticle&aid=139128 "Go through the list: the controversial Corvair, the troubled Vega, the behind-the-times Chevette and the Cavalier, which actually sells well but only with a $3,000 rebate. "
I don't believe this proper succession of Chevrolet small cars exists anywhere on WP outside of this talk page. I believe it should (and guess who would jump all over me if I tried??)
I have six directly supporting citatios, and the number of conflicting citations you have versus six is ... zero?? I did notice your list of other successor cars, but just becuase an old design is allowed to sell until it dies does not mean that the Granada did not replace the Maverick, or that the Shadow did not replace the Omni. Clearly the compact car with the largest sales that covered the Chevette's mission was the Cavalier, though they also sold rebadged Izuzus and Suzukis which also served a crappy entry level cars. There was no other 4 or 5 door car in Chevy besides the chevette, the Cavalier could not replace only the Monza because it was only fastback and notchback coupes. -- matador300 20:54, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
I must ask you to cease removing cited edits, and to quit replacing it with unverifiable original research colored by POV. I see no evidence that you beliefs come from, or are backed by any article published on paper or the internet, or broadcast, and you seem to certainly be incapable of providing any supporting or concurring statements of fact or even opinion, or finding it even it it was out there. The WP is the only place that makes this assertion, and does not recognize the validity of at least 6 articles that openly conflict with the unverifiable assertion, which makes it at LEAST IN DISPUTE, certainly impossible to state "chevette was not replaced by Cavalier". and you and a couple of other editors appear to be the problem that needs to be rectified. I must ask again why this issue is of such importance that you must toss verified research, and impose your constructed opinion? -- matador300 01:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I've copy/pasted most of this from the
Chevette talk page, as most of the problems there are also over here.
I'll revert this article as well once I can find the last good edit. -- DeLarge 14:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
The Vega was the direct predecessor of the Monza (although both the Vega and the Vega-derived Monza were sold together for a time) and the Monza was the direct predecessor of the Cavalier. 75.33.81.8 09:53, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
And the Cavalier was the direct predecessor of the Cobalt.
Also note that the GM Lordstown Assembly Plant produced the Vega, Monza, Cavalier and Cobalt in succession. 75.33.81.8 10:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Contrary to User:Wiarthurhu's claim in his edit summary, User:ApolloBoy did not remove "sourced edits"; as can be seen from the diff of the revert, the only things that were restored were a questionable paragraph and two nondescript external links. ApolloBoy's edits seem to have been a sucessful attempt to tidy the content which User:Jnelson09 thought was worthy of a {{NPOV}} tag.
Comparing the two, I see less POV in ApolloBoy's edit. I'd favour keeping his tidied version, rather than Wiarthurhu's. -- DeLarge 23:38, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
There were only two generations of Cavalier, this "Second Generation Phase One and Two" are exactly the same as the "First Generation", They were given a whole new design in '94
Couple issues:
"Both platforms had conventional rear-drive layouts which suffered in comparison with more efficient front wheel drive offerings such as the Toyota Corolla and Honda Civic"
The Toyota Corolla was rear wheel drive, carburettered and break-point ignition (base models) until 1985. So how was it 'more efficient' ? 203.39.81.92 ( talk) 05:06, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Not to mention the fact that stating front wheel drive cars are more effficiant is a matter of opinion, and has no place in an encyclopedia!!
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The Japanese have long held off on the kind of unreasonable emissions laws that originated in the US. Did the Toyota Cavalier gain from any removal of unnecessary emissions gear? Nevard ( talk) 12:59, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Can we get a source on who and where it is called that? I have NEVER heard it referred to as that. However, I do call my car my "Cavy", so that part I can understand. KnightCrusader ( talk) 16:02, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
I've been working to try and get the Cavalier page back and organized. Someone screwed this page up months ago and now there is very little general info on it. Last night I revamped the second gen page with random facts arranged in a timeline. I plan to do this with the first and third gens too once I get a better hang of editing wiki pages. ScoobyDoo82 —Preceding undated comment added 20:58, 19 January 2010 (UTC).
i have two engines , one block has 4 sensors and the other has 2, will it run without these senors attached
"In 1989, the steering column was redesigned to be collapsible"
What ?!! Collapsible steering columns became mandatory in 1968 :
(Ref : http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/regrev/evaluate/pdf/809834Part2.pdf, p. 11 :
"FMVSS 203/204 became effective on January 1, 1968 (passenger cars) and September 1, 1981 (multipurpose passenger vehicles, trucks, and buses)",
"FMVSS 203 requires that the impact force developed on the chest not to exceed a safe level of 2500 pounds from the steering column during an impact of 15 mph. This is accomplished by designing the column to collapse at a controlled rate upon impact")
Could the author of this statement please rephrase this ? 203.26.122.12 ( talk) 01:47, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
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I think this is a no-brainer. A lot of badge-engineered cars have had their articles merged. (see: Suzuki Cultus) However, I do think that some J-body nameplates need to be left out.
The Olds Firenza and Pontiac Sunfire can easily be merged into the Cavalier's article, since these were one-generation J-body cars that don't carry a negative stigma like the Cadillac Cimarron.
Anyone else supports a merger? Jgera5 ( talk) 16:11, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
I can't say that I would agree with the merger with the Firenza which ceased midway through the first generation of the 'J Body' whereas the Sunfire was Pontiac's re-brand of the Sunbird for the second generation of the 'J'. Between the name change from Sunbird to Sunfire when the platform was updated and the muddled lineage of the various cars on this platform I'd suggest that leaving things separate makes it less confusing . Rawja ( talk) 22:58, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
I am also against a merger for thr reasons stated by other editors ( Regushee ( talk) 05:49, 28 March 2012 (UTC))
Same here. I also don't favor the merge. Bookster451 ( talk) 18:01, 4 May 2012 (UTC) Yea i dont agree with a merger of these cars! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.10.192.7 ( talk) 19:58, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Just putting these links here before they get lost, still need to verify if info in article matches info in links.
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The Chevy Cavalier must be one whale of a car; it's taking two cars to replace it. The 2004 Chevy Aveo will arrive in January to court the old Cav's budget-conscious buyers, while the 2005 Chevy Cobalt debuts later next year to woo "premium small car" buers. The double dip was necessitated, said Timothy Techlin, performance manager for Aveo, by a dilemma General Motors has faced for yearsl battling entry-level econo-cars like the Kia Rio and Hyundai Accent with highly incentivized, deeply discounted, low-trim-level Cavaliers while, at the same time, facing such champagne econo-rides as the Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla with tricked out versions of that same Cavalier. That's too much to ask of one car, Techlin said. "Cavalier was doing double duty, trying to appeal to the premium small car buyer and the entry-level car buyer." he said. "Now, Aveo will come in to appeal to the value shoppers, and Cobalt will appeal to the permium small car buyer."
Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/95868764/cavalier-replacement-cars/
I am changing this to add Aveo to the list, per the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:3AE0:4760:B820:6D13:17E9:270 ( talk) 04:58, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
The first 3 generation infoboxes have the name "1J". Regushee said in edit summary that this is the platform code. I'm comfortable with 1J being the platform code. However, it is not a generational code, so it is not helpful to name each of 3 separate generations as the same "1J". Nor is it explained in the text why 3 separate generations have the same name. The "1J" should be in the platform field and the name field should be either "First generation", "Second generation", "Third generation" or some (verified) code that is unique to each generation. It would also be helpful if the "1J" platform code was explained in the text and/or linked to some article explaining Chevy platform codes (eg some web searching found the presumably related 2J code for the Pontiac Sunbird). Stepho talk 22:26, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
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"Designed straight off the drawing board"? As opposed to some other way? I changed it to "produced", what the original writer obviously intended. Trekphiler 04:53, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
I made a big change by adding "for over a decade they went, but were then discontinued" :) Whopper 02:37, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
I added the User-Manual link. It's a nice thing to be able to look at, and also, if anybody has attempted a Google search for one, they're near-impossible to find. -- Shadic 31 July, 2006
One: (Note article lists Vega / Monza, Chevette then Cavalier which means this article establishes a lineage) http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=109161 The old Vega bodies remained unchanged through 1979 and dribbled out a few more sales before leaving the Monza and Chevette to continue on with negligible effect in the small-car market through 1980 and 1981 until the arrival of the Cavalier (note placement of Monza and Chevette in small-car market, showing Cavalier replaced both in terms of stronger sales)
First-Generation Cavalier: 1982-1994 After introducing the front-drive Citation as replacement for the Nova during the 1980 model year, it was no surprise that Chevrolet would introduce a front-drive machine in the empty spot in its lineup left when the Vega and Monza disappeared, just above the decrepit Chevette. The 1982 Cavalier would be that car
Two: (This fellow also recognizes obvious Cavalier as successor to Chevette) http://sev2maryann.severnschool.com/student_life/ms_classes/gyost/hobbies/yostcars.htm
Depending on the model it was roomier, bigger, more comfortable, safer, sportier, and in some versions more economical than its' competitors including the Rabbit/Golf, Fiesta and Pinto (and their successor Escort), and the Chevette (and its successor the Cavalier).
Three: (Establishes lineage starting with chevette, which was preceded by Vega, then Cavalier as the next car from GM) http://www.carguidemagazine.com/archive/apr2005/roadTests/chev_cobalt.php GM's small car blues are over Story & photos by Michael Bettencourt GM promised more than a few times a compact car that could compete with the best the Japanese had to offer. First with the Chevrolet Chevette, then the Cavalier, then it found a radically larger pail of money to put behind the effort in 1990 with the introduction of the Saturn brand.
Four: (And the wagon which replaced the chevette / vega was.. Not the Cavalier??) Chevy Vega Station Wagon - Jul 24... Chevette which essentially replaced the Vega as Chevy's Chevy Station Wagon ... Chevy Car Cover-Chevy Corvette Camaro Cavalier Malibu Silverado Tahoe . ... findit1.info/station-wagon/chevy-vega-station-wagon.php
Five: (also establishes lineage violated by previous WP successor listing, though Apolloboy would object to Corvair connection as much as matador / premier connection, but connection is there, though debatable whether Corvair / Chevy II is a sub/compact relationship, Chevy II was an alternative engine compact) http://www.internetautoguide.com/reviews/45-int/compact-cars/chevrolet/cobalt/2005/index.html a transportation appliance in the longtime Chevrolet mold of the Corvair, the Vega, the Chevette, the Monza, and most recently the Cavalier.
Six: (another misinformed editor? ) http://www.autobytel.com/content/research/index.cfm?id=4;ABTL&action=ShowArticle&aid=139128 "Go through the list: the controversial Corvair, the troubled Vega, the behind-the-times Chevette and the Cavalier, which actually sells well but only with a $3,000 rebate. "
I don't believe this proper succession of Chevrolet small cars exists anywhere on WP outside of this talk page. I believe it should (and guess who would jump all over me if I tried??)
I have six directly supporting citatios, and the number of conflicting citations you have versus six is ... zero?? I did notice your list of other successor cars, but just becuase an old design is allowed to sell until it dies does not mean that the Granada did not replace the Maverick, or that the Shadow did not replace the Omni. Clearly the compact car with the largest sales that covered the Chevette's mission was the Cavalier, though they also sold rebadged Izuzus and Suzukis which also served a crappy entry level cars. There was no other 4 or 5 door car in Chevy besides the chevette, the Cavalier could not replace only the Monza because it was only fastback and notchback coupes. -- matador300 20:54, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
I must ask you to cease removing cited edits, and to quit replacing it with unverifiable original research colored by POV. I see no evidence that you beliefs come from, or are backed by any article published on paper or the internet, or broadcast, and you seem to certainly be incapable of providing any supporting or concurring statements of fact or even opinion, or finding it even it it was out there. The WP is the only place that makes this assertion, and does not recognize the validity of at least 6 articles that openly conflict with the unverifiable assertion, which makes it at LEAST IN DISPUTE, certainly impossible to state "chevette was not replaced by Cavalier". and you and a couple of other editors appear to be the problem that needs to be rectified. I must ask again why this issue is of such importance that you must toss verified research, and impose your constructed opinion? -- matador300 01:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I've copy/pasted most of this from the
Chevette talk page, as most of the problems there are also over here.
I'll revert this article as well once I can find the last good edit. -- DeLarge 14:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
The Vega was the direct predecessor of the Monza (although both the Vega and the Vega-derived Monza were sold together for a time) and the Monza was the direct predecessor of the Cavalier. 75.33.81.8 09:53, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
And the Cavalier was the direct predecessor of the Cobalt.
Also note that the GM Lordstown Assembly Plant produced the Vega, Monza, Cavalier and Cobalt in succession. 75.33.81.8 10:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Contrary to User:Wiarthurhu's claim in his edit summary, User:ApolloBoy did not remove "sourced edits"; as can be seen from the diff of the revert, the only things that were restored were a questionable paragraph and two nondescript external links. ApolloBoy's edits seem to have been a sucessful attempt to tidy the content which User:Jnelson09 thought was worthy of a {{NPOV}} tag.
Comparing the two, I see less POV in ApolloBoy's edit. I'd favour keeping his tidied version, rather than Wiarthurhu's. -- DeLarge 23:38, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
There were only two generations of Cavalier, this "Second Generation Phase One and Two" are exactly the same as the "First Generation", They were given a whole new design in '94
Couple issues:
"Both platforms had conventional rear-drive layouts which suffered in comparison with more efficient front wheel drive offerings such as the Toyota Corolla and Honda Civic"
The Toyota Corolla was rear wheel drive, carburettered and break-point ignition (base models) until 1985. So how was it 'more efficient' ? 203.39.81.92 ( talk) 05:06, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Not to mention the fact that stating front wheel drive cars are more effficiant is a matter of opinion, and has no place in an encyclopedia!!
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talk) —Preceding
undated comment was added at 03:47, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
The Japanese have long held off on the kind of unreasonable emissions laws that originated in the US. Did the Toyota Cavalier gain from any removal of unnecessary emissions gear? Nevard ( talk) 12:59, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Can we get a source on who and where it is called that? I have NEVER heard it referred to as that. However, I do call my car my "Cavy", so that part I can understand. KnightCrusader ( talk) 16:02, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
I've been working to try and get the Cavalier page back and organized. Someone screwed this page up months ago and now there is very little general info on it. Last night I revamped the second gen page with random facts arranged in a timeline. I plan to do this with the first and third gens too once I get a better hang of editing wiki pages. ScoobyDoo82 —Preceding undated comment added 20:58, 19 January 2010 (UTC).
i have two engines , one block has 4 sensors and the other has 2, will it run without these senors attached
"In 1989, the steering column was redesigned to be collapsible"
What ?!! Collapsible steering columns became mandatory in 1968 :
(Ref : http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/regrev/evaluate/pdf/809834Part2.pdf, p. 11 :
"FMVSS 203/204 became effective on January 1, 1968 (passenger cars) and September 1, 1981 (multipurpose passenger vehicles, trucks, and buses)",
"FMVSS 203 requires that the impact force developed on the chest not to exceed a safe level of 2500 pounds from the steering column during an impact of 15 mph. This is accomplished by designing the column to collapse at a controlled rate upon impact")
Could the author of this statement please rephrase this ? 203.26.122.12 ( talk) 01:47, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I think this is a no-brainer. A lot of badge-engineered cars have had their articles merged. (see: Suzuki Cultus) However, I do think that some J-body nameplates need to be left out.
The Olds Firenza and Pontiac Sunfire can easily be merged into the Cavalier's article, since these were one-generation J-body cars that don't carry a negative stigma like the Cadillac Cimarron.
Anyone else supports a merger? Jgera5 ( talk) 16:11, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
I can't say that I would agree with the merger with the Firenza which ceased midway through the first generation of the 'J Body' whereas the Sunfire was Pontiac's re-brand of the Sunbird for the second generation of the 'J'. Between the name change from Sunbird to Sunfire when the platform was updated and the muddled lineage of the various cars on this platform I'd suggest that leaving things separate makes it less confusing . Rawja ( talk) 22:58, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
I am also against a merger for thr reasons stated by other editors ( Regushee ( talk) 05:49, 28 March 2012 (UTC))
Same here. I also don't favor the merge. Bookster451 ( talk) 18:01, 4 May 2012 (UTC) Yea i dont agree with a merger of these cars! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.10.192.7 ( talk) 19:58, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Just putting these links here before they get lost, still need to verify if info in article matches info in links.
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The Chevy Cavalier must be one whale of a car; it's taking two cars to replace it. The 2004 Chevy Aveo will arrive in January to court the old Cav's budget-conscious buyers, while the 2005 Chevy Cobalt debuts later next year to woo "premium small car" buers. The double dip was necessitated, said Timothy Techlin, performance manager for Aveo, by a dilemma General Motors has faced for yearsl battling entry-level econo-cars like the Kia Rio and Hyundai Accent with highly incentivized, deeply discounted, low-trim-level Cavaliers while, at the same time, facing such champagne econo-rides as the Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla with tricked out versions of that same Cavalier. That's too much to ask of one car, Techlin said. "Cavalier was doing double duty, trying to appeal to the premium small car buyer and the entry-level car buyer." he said. "Now, Aveo will come in to appeal to the value shoppers, and Cobalt will appeal to the permium small car buyer."
Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/95868764/cavalier-replacement-cars/
I am changing this to add Aveo to the list, per the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:3AE0:4760:B820:6D13:17E9:270 ( talk) 04:58, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
The first 3 generation infoboxes have the name "1J". Regushee said in edit summary that this is the platform code. I'm comfortable with 1J being the platform code. However, it is not a generational code, so it is not helpful to name each of 3 separate generations as the same "1J". Nor is it explained in the text why 3 separate generations have the same name. The "1J" should be in the platform field and the name field should be either "First generation", "Second generation", "Third generation" or some (verified) code that is unique to each generation. It would also be helpful if the "1J" platform code was explained in the text and/or linked to some article explaining Chevy platform codes (eg some web searching found the presumably related 2J code for the Pontiac Sunbird). Stepho talk 22:26, 27 September 2022 (UTC)