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When you get the created page so you can see the advertisement will be considered so the speedily deletion task is required of WP:AFD's reporter of wikipedia after a tag of this article. Please comment. Thank you. Bryancyriel ( talk) 12:55, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
I am very new to Wikipedia & only removed one paragraph that was inappropriate. A LOT of this article lacks neutrality & reads more like an advertisement for their products than anything.
Any help cleaning it up would be appreciated. JB3783 ( talk) 18:49, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Whatscall, a laissé tombé ses utilisateurs, plusieurs milliers ont perdu des points importants pour passer des appels téléphoniques sans frais, whatscall qui apparaît a cheetah mobile a fermé sans avis et délais sans en aviser ses utilisateurs Boboy1059 ( talk) 13:48, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Whatscall, has failed its users, several thousand have lost important points to make telephone calls toll free, whatscall which appears on cheetah mobile has closed without notice and delays without notifying its users. Polygnotus ( talk) 23:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Cheetah Security Browser which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 02:17, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Since Cheetah Mobile has faced allegations of fabricating its traffic and revenue numbers and buying user reviews.
according to
the Verge I removed the claim of an amount of active users "As of January 2017
[update], it has more than 634 million monthly active users
" sourced to a
listicle. Sadly this is accepted practice in the app market.
Polygnotus (
talk)
23:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
It would be nice to have some sources. For example, this confirms that Kingsoft owns Cheetah Mobile and this confirms that Cheetah Mobile owns OrionStar. Polygnotus ( talk) 23:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
This may be a bit outdated: It has two subsidiaries including Seasun and Kingsoft Office.
Polygnotus (
talk)
23:15, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
CMCM recently invested $40m into OrionStar, a robotics company owned by CMCM’s CEO. The transaction price implies a $135m post-money valuation for a company that has only existed for ~8 months, and that was originally intended to be a CMCM subsidiary, based on our research.Polygnotus ( talk) 08:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
In September 2016, Fu Sheng founded OrionStar. This does not necessarily mean that Orionstar is their subsidiary, right? It also says
Cheetah Mobile launched the "All in AI" initiative and established OrionStarAgain, this does not necessarily mean that it is a subsidiary, right? It sure seems like Fu Sheng founded Orionstar, and CM did not establish Orionstar (despite their claim). Anyway, I found a better source, that does specify that Orionstar is a subsidiary and does confirm that the claim that CM established Orionstar is false.
There is a trick, a template called {{ od}} meaning outdent to jump back to the left. Polygnotus ( talk) 16:54, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Google Translate translates the first sentence of
https://www.cheetahgames.com/about as "Cheetah Games is the game publishing department of Cheetah Mobile and was officially established in 2014." I have not been able to find evidence that it is a subsidiary. The article
Kingsoft states Kingsoft operates four subsidiaries: Seasun for video game development
Polygnotus (
talk)
17:00, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
That’s because KS Mobile IS an old name for Cheetah Mobile. It was called like that before 2015. When you put Clean Master on way back machine, you can see the name evolution. In iOS, Cheetah Mobile kept using the name for publishing LiveMe and CM Browser Mobile. Mateus2906 ( talk) 21:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
I checked the latest filing with the SEC (2024-04-18) and according to exhibit 8.1 they got 20 subsidiaries:
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Cheetah Technology Corporation Limited Beijing Kingsoft Internet Security Software Co., Ltd. Conew Network Technology (Beijing) Co., Ltd. Hongkong Zoom Interactive Network Marketing Technology Limited Cheetah Information Technology Company Limited Cheetah Mobile Singapore Pte. Ltd. Multicloud Limited Beijing Kingsoft Cheetah Technology Co., Ltd. Jingdezhen Jibao Information Service Co., Ltd. Japan Kingsoft Inc. Zhuhai Baoqu Technology Co., Ltd. Zhuhai Baobaohong Technology Co., Ltd Zhuhai Baohaowan Technology Co., Ltd. Beijing Orion Star Technology Co., Ltd. Hongkong Cheetah Mobile Technology Limited Conew.com Corporation Cheepop Inc. Cheetah Mobile Seal Inc. Cheetah Mobile Calls Hong Kong Limited Zhuhai Juntian Electronic Technology Co., Ltd. |
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Infobox company}} says: If there are more than five subsidiaries and the article body lists them or discusses them, consider linking to that part of the article rather than listing them in the infobox.
Listing them all in the infobox seems like overkill.
Polygnotus (
talk)
17:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Press reported that Prescience Point Research Group released a report that states that Cheetah mobile is essentially worthless. I should probably dig a bit deeper when I have time. Polygnotus ( talk) 23:10, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
We can use these sources to improve the article:
Polygnotus ( talk) 09:35, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Chen Rui is called the founder of Cheetah Mobile but the source says he was the co-founder. Sheng Fu is also claimed to be the founder of Cheetah mobile. See here. Polygnotus ( talk) 22:02, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
In China they flip the family and first name.
The article seems to use a mix.
Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Chinese)#Ordering says: Unlike with most Western names, Chinese personal names present the surname (either a family name or a clan name) before the given name. It is standard practice to adhere to this convention in English. However, when someone is commonly known by a Chinese name with given–surname order (e.g. Wen Ho Lee), this form should be used, and relevant redirects created from the surname–given ordering.
None of these people is commonly known by any name so I think we should follow the Chinese order and make a note that we did that.
Polygnotus (
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22:00, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
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When you get the created page so you can see the advertisement will be considered so the speedily deletion task is required of WP:AFD's reporter of wikipedia after a tag of this article. Please comment. Thank you. Bryancyriel ( talk) 12:55, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
I am very new to Wikipedia & only removed one paragraph that was inappropriate. A LOT of this article lacks neutrality & reads more like an advertisement for their products than anything.
Any help cleaning it up would be appreciated. JB3783 ( talk) 18:49, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Whatscall, a laissé tombé ses utilisateurs, plusieurs milliers ont perdu des points importants pour passer des appels téléphoniques sans frais, whatscall qui apparaît a cheetah mobile a fermé sans avis et délais sans en aviser ses utilisateurs Boboy1059 ( talk) 13:48, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Whatscall, has failed its users, several thousand have lost important points to make telephone calls toll free, whatscall which appears on cheetah mobile has closed without notice and delays without notifying its users. Polygnotus ( talk) 23:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Cheetah Security Browser which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 02:17, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Since Cheetah Mobile has faced allegations of fabricating its traffic and revenue numbers and buying user reviews.
according to
the Verge I removed the claim of an amount of active users "As of January 2017
[update], it has more than 634 million monthly active users
" sourced to a
listicle. Sadly this is accepted practice in the app market.
Polygnotus (
talk)
23:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
It would be nice to have some sources. For example, this confirms that Kingsoft owns Cheetah Mobile and this confirms that Cheetah Mobile owns OrionStar. Polygnotus ( talk) 23:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
This may be a bit outdated: It has two subsidiaries including Seasun and Kingsoft Office.
Polygnotus (
talk)
23:15, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
CMCM recently invested $40m into OrionStar, a robotics company owned by CMCM’s CEO. The transaction price implies a $135m post-money valuation for a company that has only existed for ~8 months, and that was originally intended to be a CMCM subsidiary, based on our research.Polygnotus ( talk) 08:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
In September 2016, Fu Sheng founded OrionStar. This does not necessarily mean that Orionstar is their subsidiary, right? It also says
Cheetah Mobile launched the "All in AI" initiative and established OrionStarAgain, this does not necessarily mean that it is a subsidiary, right? It sure seems like Fu Sheng founded Orionstar, and CM did not establish Orionstar (despite their claim). Anyway, I found a better source, that does specify that Orionstar is a subsidiary and does confirm that the claim that CM established Orionstar is false.
There is a trick, a template called {{ od}} meaning outdent to jump back to the left. Polygnotus ( talk) 16:54, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Google Translate translates the first sentence of
https://www.cheetahgames.com/about as "Cheetah Games is the game publishing department of Cheetah Mobile and was officially established in 2014." I have not been able to find evidence that it is a subsidiary. The article
Kingsoft states Kingsoft operates four subsidiaries: Seasun for video game development
Polygnotus (
talk)
17:00, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
That’s because KS Mobile IS an old name for Cheetah Mobile. It was called like that before 2015. When you put Clean Master on way back machine, you can see the name evolution. In iOS, Cheetah Mobile kept using the name for publishing LiveMe and CM Browser Mobile. Mateus2906 ( talk) 21:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
I checked the latest filing with the SEC (2024-04-18) and according to exhibit 8.1 they got 20 subsidiaries:
Extended content
|
---|
Cheetah Technology Corporation Limited Beijing Kingsoft Internet Security Software Co., Ltd. Conew Network Technology (Beijing) Co., Ltd. Hongkong Zoom Interactive Network Marketing Technology Limited Cheetah Information Technology Company Limited Cheetah Mobile Singapore Pte. Ltd. Multicloud Limited Beijing Kingsoft Cheetah Technology Co., Ltd. Jingdezhen Jibao Information Service Co., Ltd. Japan Kingsoft Inc. Zhuhai Baoqu Technology Co., Ltd. Zhuhai Baobaohong Technology Co., Ltd Zhuhai Baohaowan Technology Co., Ltd. Beijing Orion Star Technology Co., Ltd. Hongkong Cheetah Mobile Technology Limited Conew.com Corporation Cheepop Inc. Cheetah Mobile Seal Inc. Cheetah Mobile Calls Hong Kong Limited Zhuhai Juntian Electronic Technology Co., Ltd. |
{{
Infobox company}} says: If there are more than five subsidiaries and the article body lists them or discusses them, consider linking to that part of the article rather than listing them in the infobox.
Listing them all in the infobox seems like overkill.
Polygnotus (
talk)
17:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Press reported that Prescience Point Research Group released a report that states that Cheetah mobile is essentially worthless. I should probably dig a bit deeper when I have time. Polygnotus ( talk) 23:10, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
We can use these sources to improve the article:
Polygnotus ( talk) 09:35, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Chen Rui is called the founder of Cheetah Mobile but the source says he was the co-founder. Sheng Fu is also claimed to be the founder of Cheetah mobile. See here. Polygnotus ( talk) 22:02, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
In China they flip the family and first name.
The article seems to use a mix.
Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Chinese)#Ordering says: Unlike with most Western names, Chinese personal names present the surname (either a family name or a clan name) before the given name. It is standard practice to adhere to this convention in English. However, when someone is commonly known by a Chinese name with given–surname order (e.g. Wen Ho Lee), this form should be used, and relevant redirects created from the surname–given ordering.
None of these people is commonly known by any name so I think we should follow the Chinese order and make a note that we did that.
Polygnotus (
talk)
22:00, 16 May 2024 (UTC)