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The manuscript was on the palm leaf manuscript. And bengali don’t had any palm leaf writing culture. But Odia do have form 1000s of years. Charya Giti are Odia the words are no difference between Old Odia words. There is no reationship between Bengali language. Its not correct.
http://orissamatters.com/tag/history-of-bengali-language/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.165.63.132 ( talk) 14:20, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
I also agree to the fact that Charyapadas are not written in Bengali as it has no written history on Palm leaves. It was after 13-14th century people started writing them. And the picture attached in the "Manuscript" section is not the correct presentation as it doesn't seem to be correct. It is a recently written script and representing unresearched materials in againts Wiki. Apabhramsa is spoken and not written. Charyagiti or Charyapada were written in Kutila lipi from which Odia script was derived.-- 216.163.246.1 ( talk) 14:08, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
I have reverted the recent name. Charyapada is the common name in English sources, and the move was undiscussed. See WP:COMMONNAME. Dougweller ( talk) 17:56, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
A Google Books Search shows 1040 results for Charyapada and ZERO (0) results for Chorjapodo. I guess that pretty much nails it. Shovon ( talk) 11:42, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
There is no written history of Bengali in palm leaves. So how is Charyapada written in Bengali? Please describe. Reference to Sastri is irrelevent as there is no evidence to corroborate his claim. He just wrote a book with a false claim. 216.163.246.1 ( talk) 15:32, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
I've just started working with the article today, and I think there's quite a lot to be improved in the article. =P Especially the
Language -section could be clarified and grammar improved there, don't you think? At the moment, I find it really hard to understand how the sections are related to the article in the first place? This would need, however, the original contributor to help to sort things out!
Jayaguru-Shishya (
talk)
14:14, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
In his book (Ascharya Charyachaya) Karunakar Kar has mentioned that Odisha is the origin of Charyapada as the Vajrayana school of Buddhism evolved there and started female worship in Buddhism. Worship of Matri Dakini and the practice of "Kaya sadhana" are the outcome of such new culture. Buddhist scholars like Lakshminkara and Padmasambhava were born in Odisha. The ideas and experience of Kaya sadhana and Shaki upasana (worshiping female principle) which were created by Adi siddhas ... The poets of Charyapada prominently are from this region
.
There is also this other section Glimpses of social life (the old version prior to my latest edit) where the grammar is quite poor:
Many poems provide a realistic picture of early medieval society in eastern India by describing different occupations of people such as hunters, boatmen, and potters. The geographical locations, namely Banga and Kamarupa, are referred to in the poems. Names of the two rivers that occur are the Ganga and Yamuna. River Padma has been referred to as a canal. Two occupations are mentioned. These are weaving, woodcutter and hunting. No reference to agriculture is available. Reference to prostitution by women occurs. The boat was the main mode of transport. Some description of wedding ceremony is also available.
.
The grammar could be improved a lot, and the phrases are conflicted. First it is said that two occupations are mentioned, and straight after that it is followed by three occupations: a weaver, a woodcutter and a hunter. The beginning of the paragraph mentions, however, three occupations as well: hunter remaining the same, but in addition boatmen and potters.
In my humble opinion, there is need for a larger clean up in this article. I tried to make improvements to the lede on the basis of the previous version, but I don't really believe I succeeded that well. Perhaps a bigger makeover would be an easier approach? :O Jayaguru-Shishya ( talk) 14:45, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
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The manuscript was on the palm leaf manuscript. And bengali don’t had any palm leaf writing culture. But Odia do have form 1000s of years. Charya Giti are Odia the words are no difference between Old Odia words. There is no reationship between Bengali language. Its not correct.
http://orissamatters.com/tag/history-of-bengali-language/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.165.63.132 ( talk) 14:20, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
I also agree to the fact that Charyapadas are not written in Bengali as it has no written history on Palm leaves. It was after 13-14th century people started writing them. And the picture attached in the "Manuscript" section is not the correct presentation as it doesn't seem to be correct. It is a recently written script and representing unresearched materials in againts Wiki. Apabhramsa is spoken and not written. Charyagiti or Charyapada were written in Kutila lipi from which Odia script was derived.-- 216.163.246.1 ( talk) 14:08, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
I have reverted the recent name. Charyapada is the common name in English sources, and the move was undiscussed. See WP:COMMONNAME. Dougweller ( talk) 17:56, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
A Google Books Search shows 1040 results for Charyapada and ZERO (0) results for Chorjapodo. I guess that pretty much nails it. Shovon ( talk) 11:42, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
There is no written history of Bengali in palm leaves. So how is Charyapada written in Bengali? Please describe. Reference to Sastri is irrelevent as there is no evidence to corroborate his claim. He just wrote a book with a false claim. 216.163.246.1 ( talk) 15:32, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
I've just started working with the article today, and I think there's quite a lot to be improved in the article. =P Especially the
Language -section could be clarified and grammar improved there, don't you think? At the moment, I find it really hard to understand how the sections are related to the article in the first place? This would need, however, the original contributor to help to sort things out!
Jayaguru-Shishya (
talk)
14:14, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
In his book (Ascharya Charyachaya) Karunakar Kar has mentioned that Odisha is the origin of Charyapada as the Vajrayana school of Buddhism evolved there and started female worship in Buddhism. Worship of Matri Dakini and the practice of "Kaya sadhana" are the outcome of such new culture. Buddhist scholars like Lakshminkara and Padmasambhava were born in Odisha. The ideas and experience of Kaya sadhana and Shaki upasana (worshiping female principle) which were created by Adi siddhas ... The poets of Charyapada prominently are from this region
.
There is also this other section Glimpses of social life (the old version prior to my latest edit) where the grammar is quite poor:
Many poems provide a realistic picture of early medieval society in eastern India by describing different occupations of people such as hunters, boatmen, and potters. The geographical locations, namely Banga and Kamarupa, are referred to in the poems. Names of the two rivers that occur are the Ganga and Yamuna. River Padma has been referred to as a canal. Two occupations are mentioned. These are weaving, woodcutter and hunting. No reference to agriculture is available. Reference to prostitution by women occurs. The boat was the main mode of transport. Some description of wedding ceremony is also available.
.
The grammar could be improved a lot, and the phrases are conflicted. First it is said that two occupations are mentioned, and straight after that it is followed by three occupations: a weaver, a woodcutter and a hunter. The beginning of the paragraph mentions, however, three occupations as well: hunter remaining the same, but in addition boatmen and potters.
In my humble opinion, there is need for a larger clean up in this article. I tried to make improvements to the lede on the basis of the previous version, but I don't really believe I succeeded that well. Perhaps a bigger makeover would be an easier approach? :O Jayaguru-Shishya ( talk) 14:45, 20 June 2014 (UTC)