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I read the last picture there is the railroad ave, but the pic is not made for train, no track, just normal road for car. I searched the meaning of railroad, the meaning is the track for train.Even search the railroad ave,it doesn't show the meaning of normal road for car. So i guess if there is railroad for train out of the look in the picture. I read the population by 2020 is 5,but when I search in google,the brief shows the population is 4 by 2021,so there is 1 person left or pass by. And I read in WIKI chinese verson,it mention there are 5 family by 2010,not 5 person,5 family maybe more than 5 person. I imagine the 4-5 person living in that place, they have to drive outside to buy food,buy everything needed. The view looks good, silence,less pressure as its like in corner,no other people disturb. I see the road with lots graffiti. This remind me that in 2022,I usually park my car in front of a warehouse in LA in weekend, or sometimes in the evening of business day--but leave in evening also.I realize in the back of the warehouse wall, there are plenty graffiti. Sometimes the graffiti change. Some people come and use the spray painting to make such graffiti, they may make new one to cover the previous made one. I thought they may be the graffiti lover. When i read the picture of graffiti in the road, guess might be some graffiti lover find there and paint that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.73.238.5 ( talk) 07:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
It may be trivial, but this fictional character was born in Centralia. http://imagecomics.wikia.com/wiki/Barbara_Rodriguez — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.41.80.35 ( talk) 09:16, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
I found this in the article. It's obviously erroneous, based on both the other demographic data and simple sanity checking: "Males have a median income of $0 versus $0 for females." Vicki Rosenzweig 01:29 1 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Wasn't this the inspiration for the video game Silent Hill and the subsequent movie? I could swear it is... derfsquared
I added a cite about the town and movie from a third-party. Geraldshields11 ( talk) 19:43, 15 June 2012 (UTC)Geraldshields11
I don't think the town was ever an inspiration for the video game. It was confirmed an inspiration for the movie from the screenwriter, but I have never seen anyone from Konami ever saying it inspired the game. The source linked on this article only says 'The town would help inspire Silent Hill' without any sources. ( 173.239.232.92 ( talk) 14:24, 10 July 2017 (UTC))
In the Geography section, there is a repition of the area of the town as 0.6 km², but also the are covered by water as 0.6 km². It seems the town would be somewhat larger, so perhaps that is strictly the underwater area.
Attributing the trash fire is bad form for an encyclopedia article. The Centralia coal fire, probably the most famous in the United States, is partly famous because no one knows how the fire began. The trash theory is certainly a strong possibility, but there are a half-dozen others, apparent to anyone who does the slightest amount of research. The cause is, ultimately, a mystery, and should not be represented otherwise. 06:00, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Attributing the fire to a trash fire is not a theory, it is a fact. I was there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.16.113.109 ( talk • contribs) .
Unseen Danger (cited in the references) does set forth the trash fire theory with supporting evidence, so it deserves mention, even if only as a viable theory. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.100.44.148 ( talk • contribs) .
The evidence that the mine fire was caused by the trash fire is very strong. The only reason that there is any "mystery" is the feeble, half-hearted attempts of the Centralia Council to cover up the origin of the fire when they first brought in state and federal authorities, very early on in the situation. In Unseen Danger, David Dekok goes through, in great detail, all of the evidence that proves irrefutably that the mine fire was caused by the trash fire and also demonstrates clearly exactly how and why it was covered up afterwards. I think it's misleading to say that the origin of the fire is unknown. At this point, it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. -- DJ Craig ( talk) 03:34, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Glad to have been passing through Centralia today with my camera. The snow made it easy to tell where the ground is hottest. Also encountered a fellow from the PA DEP that was doing biannual measurements on bore holes for measuring temperature under the streets. The photo of the hole with the steam escaping is after he removed the rag stuffed inside to plug it up. The rag was tattered from the effects of sulfuric acid. A good whiff of it is nothing but brimstone. The worker noted that there are very few residents who call Centralia home anymore, perhaps only 4-6 individuals. My guess is the rest who were counted on the most recent census have skipped town.
Mredden 04:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Very great website. I understand why half the town left and possibly eleven are still around. I don't understand why those people that are still there live there. I wouldn't want to live there cos of the dangerous toxins and smoke. I guess they called it home. Just a question-how do the remaining people survive by means of income, food and such? I was curious to know since I live in the Midwest.
Centralia is in a rural area, but there are nearby towns. So the people who live there presumably have jobs, and visit the same stores as the people in the nearby areas. There is also another similar town with ghostly hauntings called Woodstock, Oxfrodshire, Oxford, UK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrmski ( talk • contribs) 20:24, 21 April 2007
The article lists Centralia's (revoked) ZIP as 17927, but the USPS' ZIP lookup page gives it as 17921. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.224.25.204 ( talk) 17:36, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
So if there's an underground coal fire raging with enough fuel to keep it going practically forever, keeping the underground temperature at remarkable levels, why hasn't this been recognized as a geothermal power source by some enterprising soul? I'm almost sure you could generate nontrivial amounts of electricity from that kind of temperature differential. - Toptomcat 04:52, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Also, the residents who did live there and tried to remain had to leave due to poissonous gasses which are released and cannot be controlled. It is quite a dangerous place to live, I would believe, with gasses and cracking ground? It was just mentioned in a Discovery Channel show last night (10/8/09). I thought it was quite intersesting. Maybe that show could provide more info for this article? That's how I heard about this. mbunny —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.90.207.68 ( talk) 12:43, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
The main article lists the current population of Centralia as 9. However, when I visited the town on June 2, 2007 and spoke to one of the very few residents, he claimed it was actually 15.
Though somewhat elderly, the man seemed lucid enough and he IS a permanent resident, so I'm wondering if the population count on the main page is incorrect.
Anyone know for sure?
I just visited the town this weekend, and there were - I believe - 5 houses that are clearly lived in. I counted a total of 12 cars at these 5 houses, so it stands to reason the population is more than 9. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.165.42.31 ( talk) 22:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
The man you may have spoken to may have been the then Mayor Lamar Mervine. Threads on the Centralia Discussion board on Yuku indicate that he has since moved to a nursing home and when I visited in July 2009, the car that was outside of the house in 2008 was not there and there seemed to be no activity at his home. Also, lately the state is in the process of forcing the remaining residents out. The links below confirm the departure of one such resident in June 2009 and the Yuku Centralia PA discussion board indicates that the star of the Centralia documentary "The Town That Was", John Lokitis, is also being made to move out by Labor Day. Therefore the population is dwindling rapidly. This is something that needs to be touched upon with both the issue of population and in the "Centralia Today" section.
Also, as far as the accurate number of residents, obviously the departure of Mervine, Cormarnisky and Lokitis will obviously change the population as the first two have already left the town. However, going back to the 15 in 2007 that you mentioned, some of the population of the town actually live outside borough limits and can not be considered in the actual population of the town itself, even if they are considered Centralians by immediate proximity. If you look at the attached picture "Centralia New After Mine Fire", there are 2 row houses connected to each other on East Centre St. and one house on East Park St. both were still there and inhabited as of my visit in July 2009 and both are located just outside the borough limits, yet these houses may still be considered part of Centralia to residents even if they aren't part of Centralia proper. Also, the state which owns all the houses in Centralia due to eminent domain are usually quick to demolish uninhabited houses of former residents that have either moved out or are deceased, but there is one additional house outisde of borough limits on E. Centre St. on the corner of Manahoy St. that has been uninhabited since at least May 2008 when I visited that was not torn down which leads me to believe the houses that are occupied outside of the borough limits still belong to the home owners and will not face eviction as the residents inside the borough are currently facing.
http://tr.truveo.com/centralia-man-forced-out/id/1993306014 http://www.wgal.com/news/19657439/detail.html Galeforce winds13 ( talk) 05:06, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
What the heck is a "non-family"? Callumny ( talk) 00:34, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Is the Silent Hill horror movie based on this town? Peacekeeper II 04:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
I added a cite about the town and movie from a third-party source.
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The article states there are no current plans to do anything about the fire.
Could someone add coverage as to why NOT? Have there been studies into cutting a firebreak around the mine area by harvesting unburning coal, if the seam is shallow? Or is it so deep that the majority of coal would have to remain in a vertical area under or above the existing fire? Or is the fire so wide that it already invovles a majority of the potentially accessible coal? Or is it just too uncertain whether anything could be done without unacceptable danger? Or is it an effective tourist draw for the region? Or is the ongoing environmental impact seen as insignificant?
Also, have there been any attempts to seal surface air entrances, flood the mine with water, etc.? The article vaguely says something ilke "several attempts to extinguish the fire failed". What were those attempts and why were they abandoned? -- Parsiferon ( talk) 15:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I've just uploaded a photo (made from 8 photos) of Route 61, not sure exactly where to add it, if at all...
-- MacAddct 1984 ( talk • contribs) 13:17, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
I believe this is the inspiration for the all-but-abandoned town with the long-burning coal fire below it in the Koontz collection. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.245.116.17 ( talk) 23:15, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Does this meet the definition of ghost town and what is that definition? I removed this category but it was added back. I am no expert so...-- Tom 13:56, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
It will be a ghost town soon enough as the state is currently in the process of forcing the remaining residents out, just like they promised they would never do some 25 years ago. Galeforce winds13 ( talk) 05:08, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm currently reading through Joan Quigley's work, found this interesting morsel, and have been meaning to upload this just for curiosity's sake.
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POV or not? I've attempted to contact the editor here to discuss the issue of the deleted material Mrmcdonnell ( talk) 23:35, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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The infobox lists http://centraliapa.com/ as the website for the town, but that site is merely a collection of links to some other sites, none of which have anything to do with Centralia. Any reason to keep it? — Wrathchild ( talk) 13:56, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
First off the Today section says
"Only one home remains standing in Centralia although most of the abandoned buildings have been demolished by humans or nature."
This is wrong not only to anyone that has ever visited Centralia, who can tell you that there are at least 5 buildngs standing, but also according to the Centralia After The Fire image copyrighted 2008 that is posted on this page which accurately shows there are 7 homes standing within the borough limits as well as the municipal building which remains on N. Locust St with a Fire Truck and Ambulance still visible though the windows. Even the sentence contradicts itself by saying both "only one home remains standing" and "most of the abandoned buildings", with the term "most" implying there is more then one building standing, abandoned or not. Actually the map of Centralia After The Fire is accurate per my recent visit to the town in July 2009. The only abandoned house that is decrepit and certifiably abandoned is the one on the corner of E. Centre and Manahoy St., which is actually outside borough limits and is therefore disqualified. Only very recently in June 2009 was another home vacated, but it does not meet the definition of "abandoned" as the resident was forced out of his home by the State of Pennsylvania and the house is still in good condition and likely locked and seemingly not abandoned to anyone that doesn't follow news on the town. See my links in the paragraph below for verification of this. In addition, there are two homes, one comprised of two row houses on E. Centre St. and one that is a separate house on E. Park St. that are still occupied located just outside the borough limits to the east. Additional buildings also remain north of the borough towards Aristes, including the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church that overlooks the town.
Second, there is breaking news developing this very summer as the State of Pennsylvania is apparently ramping up their efforts to evict the remaining residents. One such resident was forced out in June 2009. You can read about it here and watch a news video about it here. Also the news on David DeKok's website that indicates John Lokitis, former Mayor of Centralia, and star of the Centralia documentary "The Town that Was" is also being evicted and has bought a home in nearby Ashland and has until Labor Day Weekend of this year (2009) to leave.
This developing story is an important part of the town's story and should be included in the Today section as soon as possible. However, almost every time I try to edit anything or add anything to any article that is remotely noteworthy on Wikipedia, it is reverted, so I am leaving this information here for someone else to do it.
Lastly, one minor thing that is less significant then the above issues. The section about "some areas appear to be mowed" is true. John Lokitis mows several areas around the town, though I do not have any links to verify this, numerous people I have spoken to on Centralia message boards that have spoken with Lokitis have told me that he informed them that he does most of the groundskeeping for the town. I have not seen the documentary "The Town That Was" but he can be seen doing work around town such as painting the green Centralia 1866 benches around town and lighting the Christmas tree on Locust St. in the trailer for the documentary. It's just the wording makes it sound more mysterious then it really is. People (or person) that live there mow certain areas to keep the town looking somewhat nice and kept. It's that simple. It has to do with the pride the remaining residents have for their town. -- Galeforce winds13 ( talk) 06:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
I also have recently (August 20th, 2009) visited the town, and there are indeed at least 3 or 4 homes (buildings that appear to be occupied houses) still standing. I rephrased the first sentence of the 'Today' section. (although I wasn't logged in so I guess my edit doesn't show my name). Jeffadams78 ( talk) 14:09, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
I've been to Centralia on 12/12/09. Lokotis' House is now demolished. See http://centraliapa54196.yuku.com/topic/733/t/It-is-all-over-Lokitis-House.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vasiliymeshko ( talk • contribs) 06:47, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
OK, if you all want...I can drive up to Centralia, PA and take some pix of the demolished areas this weekend or the next. However, I wont do it until and unless enough folks express interest in such pictures. I am willing to help the article, but Ill be damned if Ill drive a seven hour round trip only to be greeted with lack of interest. So...anyone interested? RebelKnightCSA ( talk) 19:05, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
DurinsBane87: If you find an assertion that you think needs to be cited, do the editor the courtesy of flagging it as unsourced instead of just reverting the edit right off the bat. If you want a source for my edit that the Jucifer song "Centralia" is about the fire and its effects, here are the lyrics (I've got the lyric sheet from the CD right in front of me): http://www.lyricsmania.com/centralia_lyrics_jucifer.html Methychroma ( talk) 05:19, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
The section about John Coddington's gas station is completely oversimplified and inaccurate. As far as I can find from my research, the highest temperature his gas tank ever reached was 64 degrees, not 172. Also, the problem started with a strange odor in the cellar of the gas station building. The Office of Surface Mining had already been brought in and found very high ground temperatures around his building before anyone discovered the temperature of the gas tank. The high temperature in the gas tank was discovered by DER inspector Leon Brass, not Coddington himself. Read pages 107-111 of David Dekok's book Unseen Danger for a more accurate story of what happened at Coddington's gas station. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ Craig ( talk • contribs) 03:27, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Source #2 has a broken link. Just thought you should know. 98.199.16.19 ( talk) 07:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Does anybody care that the former interstate highway is not accessible by the disabled or the buttress configuration of the remaining houses? Why are these inane points in the article? -Juan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.55.157.95 ( talk) 10:23, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
It seems pretty clear to me that the section on mineral rights is heavily biased in favor of residents who oppose the state's use of eminent domain. It repeatedly questions state officials' true motivations (using weasel words like "residents theorize") and provides little to no supporting evidence of these claims. Thoughts? Fullmetal2887 ( discuss me) 20:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
It seems fair to me. It presents the claims as claims, and offers no evidence for them. Colin McLarty ( talk) 19:02, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
How is it this year? How many people are there now? are there still 10? Are there still 5 houses remaining? Anyone got any pictures taken recently? - in 2011?
Sorry, I just want to know, I live in Iceland and I'll probably never see this Really Awesome place. :(
Thanks for any answers. :( I just want to know, I love this place, and I really care for it. :'( — Preceding unsigned comment added by A416 ( talk • contribs) 23:16, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Been there just last weekend. Only one house left. All else gone. I suggest you just forget about it - I will. RebelKnightCSA ( talk) 16:52, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
Really?! Just one??... It can't be :( What street is it on? :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.157.235.158 ( talk) 20:17, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Hey folks, muy user name is Coal town guy and from that you may have guessed, I love coal towns. Which I do. As to Centralia, of the 150+ coal towns I have been to, in KY, PA, and WV, I would have to say, in a polite yet concerned manner, that you are stone cold *&^% nuts to go to this place at all. It is beyond dangerous. You could literally, walk, down the road (AND ASSUMING) and just drop dead from gas. OR you could fall in the sudden sink hole, regardless of being in a car or not, and BONUS, you would be missing for days before anyone actually noticed, assuming you had a gas detector, a respirator and of course a cell phone that works in a sink hole. The deal is, I have dome some rather strange things, in my odyssey of coal towns, but dropping dead because I chose to nut it out and be cool aint on my to do list. I would with all charity, compassion and good will state, NOT to go there. BUT as to this article, do you really want to "document" the misery of others in this fashion? At least when I get chased by a meth freak, narcotics are doing the job, in this case, you are choosing to put yourself in harms way as an option. NOT a cool idea, IMHO......I suggest we do not document Centralia today in a manner that makes peopkle think, WOW, I gotta go there.....its not encyclopedic, and its rather demeaning to others Coal town guy ( talk) 19:58, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
I would like to add some additional information by David DeKok in his book about the Bast Theory. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leoesb1032 ( talk • contribs) 02:17, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Yes, here is the link, may I put it on the page? http://books.google.com/books?id=jzqS72q-v88C&pg=PA22&lpg=PA22&dq=bast+colliery+theory&source=bl&ots=RE1gwEfOBr&sig=OrsefRfHYYxIiSqwBcaV2wLSjF4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=t4JyUejAI6LE0gHa-YHwBw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leoesb1032 ( talk • contribs) 11:59, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
The Bast Fire was a coal seam fire in 1932, if you believe that it should not be on the
Wiki page, I can write, "Although the Bast Theory is a popular theory, there is not much truth to it and a barrage of information lacks to reinforce it.
Sound good? — Preceding
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Alright I will go with that, but what I wrote about the Bast Theory is true and those who believe that Bast Theory also believe that the dump fire is unrelated to the Centralia Mine Fire. You are right though that they are two separate fires.
Okay, it's no big deal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leoesb1032 ( talk • contribs) 23:59, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
The article Centralia mine fire ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) was recently created, and linked from this article. However, that article (which is linked from this one using the {{ Main}} tag), contains much less detail than this article. As a result, it's a pretty pointless link.
Originally, the 'Centralia mine fire' page was a redirect to this page, but was created yesterday with a copy of a subset of this article's content. So we are left with the result of two articles containing duplicate information, but with this article containing greater detail. This makes a mess for maintenance, as there are now two articles to maintain.
To me, it makes more sense to change the other article back into being a redirect. Otherwise, if that one is to remain, at least purge most of the fire detail out of the 'Centralia, Pennsylvania' article and use that content to expand the 'Centralia mine fire' article, so that the material about the fire only needs to be maintained on a single page. --- Barek ( talk • contribs) - 23:17, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Should the Centralia mine fire have its own article, or remain as part of Centralia, Pennsylvania? --- Barek ( talk • contribs) - 02:42, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
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where needed. Put noinclude blocks around parts to not show in the town article, and so forth.- Andrew B ( talk) 23:32, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
I removed the incredibly long trivia section, and replaced it with a discussion of the town's legacy as an inspiration for many ghost towns in popular culture. I kept a few examples, which I think were highlighted by reliable sources as prominent examples, but, hopefully, this section won't take over the article again. If people want to add back some of the examples, that's fine, but I would request that they find reliable sources to back them up. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 15:25, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for removing that. It was as you said "Incredibly Long" and the viewers of Wikipedia have no desire to read it. Good move. Leoesb1032 ( talk) 19:12, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
We should have the photos that have to do w/ the Centralia mine fire on the mine fire's page. Ex.- Th pictures w/ the smoke in them. This could make a significant difference between the two articles and and give more reason to keep the page Centralia mine fire. Leoesb1032 ( talk) 19:00, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
I think that that article Byrnesville, Pennsylvania does not have enough information to remain as a single article.I am suggesting that we merge it with Centralia. Leoesb1032 ( talk) 12:32, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
"Every few years, a reporter will write a piece about the remaining residents of Centralia, wondering why they have not left."
I'm not an expert at Wikipedia, but does that belong in an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.208.146.162 ( talk) 14:37, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Is there any evidence that this mine is still burning? Can anyone get any citations from any news outlet that there is still a fire under the ground? This so-called "continuous" mine fire sounds like a figment of someone's imagination. Bobber0001 ( talk) 18:28, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Since there was no consensus in the previous merge discussion which is now nine months ago, I wanted to start a new one and try to establish some sort of consensus for whether the material should be merged or not. As I said previously, you can't have the fire without the town, and the town without the fire. The two are intricately linked and neither article is long enough to warrant two separate article about the same subject, especially when you remove the redundant information found in both articles. The previous discussion used the word "RfC" but no actual RfC template, so I'm placing one here to get more opinions to try to get a consensus one way or the other. Sorry, was wrong about that -
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I got the impression from reading this article (and the photos) that access to Centralia had been blocked or restricted. This bit in particular:
"The current route was formerly a detour around the damaged portion during the repairs and became a permanent route in 1993; mounds of dirt were placed at both ends of the former route, effectively blocking the road. Pedestrian traffic is still possible due to a small opening about two feet wide at the north side of the road. "
However this kinda ignores the fact that, in addition to pedestrian traffic via the gap, the new route 61 still leads into the town freely, as does route 42, and route 2004. Google map's satellite photo shows significant traffic passing through "downtown" Centralia. I haven't verified this in person so I don't want to make the change, but I certainly got the wrong impression from the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1:9600:771:659B:66C:DDD5:9C5D ( talk) 04:26, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
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It seems this town was the basis of the town in Nothing_but_Trouble_(1991_film). It should probably be mentioned there.
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I feel like this page deserves a section for notable residents from the town. One example of a notable resident from Centralia would be:
- Patrick Devine (1845-1908), coal miner, great grandfather of actor Brendan Fraser (as revealed on PBS' Finding Your Roots S10 E2). Buried in St. Ignatius Cemetery in Centralia. [4] [5] Brandondsantos ( talk) 19:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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I read the last picture there is the railroad ave, but the pic is not made for train, no track, just normal road for car. I searched the meaning of railroad, the meaning is the track for train.Even search the railroad ave,it doesn't show the meaning of normal road for car. So i guess if there is railroad for train out of the look in the picture. I read the population by 2020 is 5,but when I search in google,the brief shows the population is 4 by 2021,so there is 1 person left or pass by. And I read in WIKI chinese verson,it mention there are 5 family by 2010,not 5 person,5 family maybe more than 5 person. I imagine the 4-5 person living in that place, they have to drive outside to buy food,buy everything needed. The view looks good, silence,less pressure as its like in corner,no other people disturb. I see the road with lots graffiti. This remind me that in 2022,I usually park my car in front of a warehouse in LA in weekend, or sometimes in the evening of business day--but leave in evening also.I realize in the back of the warehouse wall, there are plenty graffiti. Sometimes the graffiti change. Some people come and use the spray painting to make such graffiti, they may make new one to cover the previous made one. I thought they may be the graffiti lover. When i read the picture of graffiti in the road, guess might be some graffiti lover find there and paint that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.73.238.5 ( talk) 07:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
It may be trivial, but this fictional character was born in Centralia. http://imagecomics.wikia.com/wiki/Barbara_Rodriguez — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.41.80.35 ( talk) 09:16, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
I found this in the article. It's obviously erroneous, based on both the other demographic data and simple sanity checking: "Males have a median income of $0 versus $0 for females." Vicki Rosenzweig 01:29 1 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Wasn't this the inspiration for the video game Silent Hill and the subsequent movie? I could swear it is... derfsquared
I added a cite about the town and movie from a third-party. Geraldshields11 ( talk) 19:43, 15 June 2012 (UTC)Geraldshields11
I don't think the town was ever an inspiration for the video game. It was confirmed an inspiration for the movie from the screenwriter, but I have never seen anyone from Konami ever saying it inspired the game. The source linked on this article only says 'The town would help inspire Silent Hill' without any sources. ( 173.239.232.92 ( talk) 14:24, 10 July 2017 (UTC))
In the Geography section, there is a repition of the area of the town as 0.6 km², but also the are covered by water as 0.6 km². It seems the town would be somewhat larger, so perhaps that is strictly the underwater area.
Attributing the trash fire is bad form for an encyclopedia article. The Centralia coal fire, probably the most famous in the United States, is partly famous because no one knows how the fire began. The trash theory is certainly a strong possibility, but there are a half-dozen others, apparent to anyone who does the slightest amount of research. The cause is, ultimately, a mystery, and should not be represented otherwise. 06:00, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Attributing the fire to a trash fire is not a theory, it is a fact. I was there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.16.113.109 ( talk • contribs) .
Unseen Danger (cited in the references) does set forth the trash fire theory with supporting evidence, so it deserves mention, even if only as a viable theory. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.100.44.148 ( talk • contribs) .
The evidence that the mine fire was caused by the trash fire is very strong. The only reason that there is any "mystery" is the feeble, half-hearted attempts of the Centralia Council to cover up the origin of the fire when they first brought in state and federal authorities, very early on in the situation. In Unseen Danger, David Dekok goes through, in great detail, all of the evidence that proves irrefutably that the mine fire was caused by the trash fire and also demonstrates clearly exactly how and why it was covered up afterwards. I think it's misleading to say that the origin of the fire is unknown. At this point, it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. -- DJ Craig ( talk) 03:34, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Glad to have been passing through Centralia today with my camera. The snow made it easy to tell where the ground is hottest. Also encountered a fellow from the PA DEP that was doing biannual measurements on bore holes for measuring temperature under the streets. The photo of the hole with the steam escaping is after he removed the rag stuffed inside to plug it up. The rag was tattered from the effects of sulfuric acid. A good whiff of it is nothing but brimstone. The worker noted that there are very few residents who call Centralia home anymore, perhaps only 4-6 individuals. My guess is the rest who were counted on the most recent census have skipped town.
Mredden 04:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Very great website. I understand why half the town left and possibly eleven are still around. I don't understand why those people that are still there live there. I wouldn't want to live there cos of the dangerous toxins and smoke. I guess they called it home. Just a question-how do the remaining people survive by means of income, food and such? I was curious to know since I live in the Midwest.
Centralia is in a rural area, but there are nearby towns. So the people who live there presumably have jobs, and visit the same stores as the people in the nearby areas. There is also another similar town with ghostly hauntings called Woodstock, Oxfrodshire, Oxford, UK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrmski ( talk • contribs) 20:24, 21 April 2007
The article lists Centralia's (revoked) ZIP as 17927, but the USPS' ZIP lookup page gives it as 17921. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.224.25.204 ( talk) 17:36, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
So if there's an underground coal fire raging with enough fuel to keep it going practically forever, keeping the underground temperature at remarkable levels, why hasn't this been recognized as a geothermal power source by some enterprising soul? I'm almost sure you could generate nontrivial amounts of electricity from that kind of temperature differential. - Toptomcat 04:52, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Also, the residents who did live there and tried to remain had to leave due to poissonous gasses which are released and cannot be controlled. It is quite a dangerous place to live, I would believe, with gasses and cracking ground? It was just mentioned in a Discovery Channel show last night (10/8/09). I thought it was quite intersesting. Maybe that show could provide more info for this article? That's how I heard about this. mbunny —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.90.207.68 ( talk) 12:43, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
The main article lists the current population of Centralia as 9. However, when I visited the town on June 2, 2007 and spoke to one of the very few residents, he claimed it was actually 15.
Though somewhat elderly, the man seemed lucid enough and he IS a permanent resident, so I'm wondering if the population count on the main page is incorrect.
Anyone know for sure?
I just visited the town this weekend, and there were - I believe - 5 houses that are clearly lived in. I counted a total of 12 cars at these 5 houses, so it stands to reason the population is more than 9. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.165.42.31 ( talk) 22:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
The man you may have spoken to may have been the then Mayor Lamar Mervine. Threads on the Centralia Discussion board on Yuku indicate that he has since moved to a nursing home and when I visited in July 2009, the car that was outside of the house in 2008 was not there and there seemed to be no activity at his home. Also, lately the state is in the process of forcing the remaining residents out. The links below confirm the departure of one such resident in June 2009 and the Yuku Centralia PA discussion board indicates that the star of the Centralia documentary "The Town That Was", John Lokitis, is also being made to move out by Labor Day. Therefore the population is dwindling rapidly. This is something that needs to be touched upon with both the issue of population and in the "Centralia Today" section.
Also, as far as the accurate number of residents, obviously the departure of Mervine, Cormarnisky and Lokitis will obviously change the population as the first two have already left the town. However, going back to the 15 in 2007 that you mentioned, some of the population of the town actually live outside borough limits and can not be considered in the actual population of the town itself, even if they are considered Centralians by immediate proximity. If you look at the attached picture "Centralia New After Mine Fire", there are 2 row houses connected to each other on East Centre St. and one house on East Park St. both were still there and inhabited as of my visit in July 2009 and both are located just outside the borough limits, yet these houses may still be considered part of Centralia to residents even if they aren't part of Centralia proper. Also, the state which owns all the houses in Centralia due to eminent domain are usually quick to demolish uninhabited houses of former residents that have either moved out or are deceased, but there is one additional house outisde of borough limits on E. Centre St. on the corner of Manahoy St. that has been uninhabited since at least May 2008 when I visited that was not torn down which leads me to believe the houses that are occupied outside of the borough limits still belong to the home owners and will not face eviction as the residents inside the borough are currently facing.
http://tr.truveo.com/centralia-man-forced-out/id/1993306014 http://www.wgal.com/news/19657439/detail.html Galeforce winds13 ( talk) 05:06, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
What the heck is a "non-family"? Callumny ( talk) 00:34, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Is the Silent Hill horror movie based on this town? Peacekeeper II 04:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
I added a cite about the town and movie from a third-party source.
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The article states there are no current plans to do anything about the fire.
Could someone add coverage as to why NOT? Have there been studies into cutting a firebreak around the mine area by harvesting unburning coal, if the seam is shallow? Or is it so deep that the majority of coal would have to remain in a vertical area under or above the existing fire? Or is the fire so wide that it already invovles a majority of the potentially accessible coal? Or is it just too uncertain whether anything could be done without unacceptable danger? Or is it an effective tourist draw for the region? Or is the ongoing environmental impact seen as insignificant?
Also, have there been any attempts to seal surface air entrances, flood the mine with water, etc.? The article vaguely says something ilke "several attempts to extinguish the fire failed". What were those attempts and why were they abandoned? -- Parsiferon ( talk) 15:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I've just uploaded a photo (made from 8 photos) of Route 61, not sure exactly where to add it, if at all...
-- MacAddct 1984 ( talk • contribs) 13:17, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
I believe this is the inspiration for the all-but-abandoned town with the long-burning coal fire below it in the Koontz collection. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.245.116.17 ( talk) 23:15, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Does this meet the definition of ghost town and what is that definition? I removed this category but it was added back. I am no expert so...-- Tom 13:56, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
It will be a ghost town soon enough as the state is currently in the process of forcing the remaining residents out, just like they promised they would never do some 25 years ago. Galeforce winds13 ( talk) 05:08, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm currently reading through Joan Quigley's work, found this interesting morsel, and have been meaning to upload this just for curiosity's sake.
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The infobox lists http://centraliapa.com/ as the website for the town, but that site is merely a collection of links to some other sites, none of which have anything to do with Centralia. Any reason to keep it? — Wrathchild ( talk) 13:56, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
First off the Today section says
"Only one home remains standing in Centralia although most of the abandoned buildings have been demolished by humans or nature."
This is wrong not only to anyone that has ever visited Centralia, who can tell you that there are at least 5 buildngs standing, but also according to the Centralia After The Fire image copyrighted 2008 that is posted on this page which accurately shows there are 7 homes standing within the borough limits as well as the municipal building which remains on N. Locust St with a Fire Truck and Ambulance still visible though the windows. Even the sentence contradicts itself by saying both "only one home remains standing" and "most of the abandoned buildings", with the term "most" implying there is more then one building standing, abandoned or not. Actually the map of Centralia After The Fire is accurate per my recent visit to the town in July 2009. The only abandoned house that is decrepit and certifiably abandoned is the one on the corner of E. Centre and Manahoy St., which is actually outside borough limits and is therefore disqualified. Only very recently in June 2009 was another home vacated, but it does not meet the definition of "abandoned" as the resident was forced out of his home by the State of Pennsylvania and the house is still in good condition and likely locked and seemingly not abandoned to anyone that doesn't follow news on the town. See my links in the paragraph below for verification of this. In addition, there are two homes, one comprised of two row houses on E. Centre St. and one that is a separate house on E. Park St. that are still occupied located just outside the borough limits to the east. Additional buildings also remain north of the borough towards Aristes, including the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church that overlooks the town.
Second, there is breaking news developing this very summer as the State of Pennsylvania is apparently ramping up their efforts to evict the remaining residents. One such resident was forced out in June 2009. You can read about it here and watch a news video about it here. Also the news on David DeKok's website that indicates John Lokitis, former Mayor of Centralia, and star of the Centralia documentary "The Town that Was" is also being evicted and has bought a home in nearby Ashland and has until Labor Day Weekend of this year (2009) to leave.
This developing story is an important part of the town's story and should be included in the Today section as soon as possible. However, almost every time I try to edit anything or add anything to any article that is remotely noteworthy on Wikipedia, it is reverted, so I am leaving this information here for someone else to do it.
Lastly, one minor thing that is less significant then the above issues. The section about "some areas appear to be mowed" is true. John Lokitis mows several areas around the town, though I do not have any links to verify this, numerous people I have spoken to on Centralia message boards that have spoken with Lokitis have told me that he informed them that he does most of the groundskeeping for the town. I have not seen the documentary "The Town That Was" but he can be seen doing work around town such as painting the green Centralia 1866 benches around town and lighting the Christmas tree on Locust St. in the trailer for the documentary. It's just the wording makes it sound more mysterious then it really is. People (or person) that live there mow certain areas to keep the town looking somewhat nice and kept. It's that simple. It has to do with the pride the remaining residents have for their town. -- Galeforce winds13 ( talk) 06:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
I also have recently (August 20th, 2009) visited the town, and there are indeed at least 3 or 4 homes (buildings that appear to be occupied houses) still standing. I rephrased the first sentence of the 'Today' section. (although I wasn't logged in so I guess my edit doesn't show my name). Jeffadams78 ( talk) 14:09, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
I've been to Centralia on 12/12/09. Lokotis' House is now demolished. See http://centraliapa54196.yuku.com/topic/733/t/It-is-all-over-Lokitis-House.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vasiliymeshko ( talk • contribs) 06:47, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
OK, if you all want...I can drive up to Centralia, PA and take some pix of the demolished areas this weekend or the next. However, I wont do it until and unless enough folks express interest in such pictures. I am willing to help the article, but Ill be damned if Ill drive a seven hour round trip only to be greeted with lack of interest. So...anyone interested? RebelKnightCSA ( talk) 19:05, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
DurinsBane87: If you find an assertion that you think needs to be cited, do the editor the courtesy of flagging it as unsourced instead of just reverting the edit right off the bat. If you want a source for my edit that the Jucifer song "Centralia" is about the fire and its effects, here are the lyrics (I've got the lyric sheet from the CD right in front of me): http://www.lyricsmania.com/centralia_lyrics_jucifer.html Methychroma ( talk) 05:19, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
The section about John Coddington's gas station is completely oversimplified and inaccurate. As far as I can find from my research, the highest temperature his gas tank ever reached was 64 degrees, not 172. Also, the problem started with a strange odor in the cellar of the gas station building. The Office of Surface Mining had already been brought in and found very high ground temperatures around his building before anyone discovered the temperature of the gas tank. The high temperature in the gas tank was discovered by DER inspector Leon Brass, not Coddington himself. Read pages 107-111 of David Dekok's book Unseen Danger for a more accurate story of what happened at Coddington's gas station. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ Craig ( talk • contribs) 03:27, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Source #2 has a broken link. Just thought you should know. 98.199.16.19 ( talk) 07:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Does anybody care that the former interstate highway is not accessible by the disabled or the buttress configuration of the remaining houses? Why are these inane points in the article? -Juan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.55.157.95 ( talk) 10:23, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
It seems pretty clear to me that the section on mineral rights is heavily biased in favor of residents who oppose the state's use of eminent domain. It repeatedly questions state officials' true motivations (using weasel words like "residents theorize") and provides little to no supporting evidence of these claims. Thoughts? Fullmetal2887 ( discuss me) 20:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
It seems fair to me. It presents the claims as claims, and offers no evidence for them. Colin McLarty ( talk) 19:02, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
How is it this year? How many people are there now? are there still 10? Are there still 5 houses remaining? Anyone got any pictures taken recently? - in 2011?
Sorry, I just want to know, I live in Iceland and I'll probably never see this Really Awesome place. :(
Thanks for any answers. :( I just want to know, I love this place, and I really care for it. :'( — Preceding unsigned comment added by A416 ( talk • contribs) 23:16, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Been there just last weekend. Only one house left. All else gone. I suggest you just forget about it - I will. RebelKnightCSA ( talk) 16:52, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
Really?! Just one??... It can't be :( What street is it on? :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.157.235.158 ( talk) 20:17, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Hey folks, muy user name is Coal town guy and from that you may have guessed, I love coal towns. Which I do. As to Centralia, of the 150+ coal towns I have been to, in KY, PA, and WV, I would have to say, in a polite yet concerned manner, that you are stone cold *&^% nuts to go to this place at all. It is beyond dangerous. You could literally, walk, down the road (AND ASSUMING) and just drop dead from gas. OR you could fall in the sudden sink hole, regardless of being in a car or not, and BONUS, you would be missing for days before anyone actually noticed, assuming you had a gas detector, a respirator and of course a cell phone that works in a sink hole. The deal is, I have dome some rather strange things, in my odyssey of coal towns, but dropping dead because I chose to nut it out and be cool aint on my to do list. I would with all charity, compassion and good will state, NOT to go there. BUT as to this article, do you really want to "document" the misery of others in this fashion? At least when I get chased by a meth freak, narcotics are doing the job, in this case, you are choosing to put yourself in harms way as an option. NOT a cool idea, IMHO......I suggest we do not document Centralia today in a manner that makes peopkle think, WOW, I gotta go there.....its not encyclopedic, and its rather demeaning to others Coal town guy ( talk) 19:58, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
I would like to add some additional information by David DeKok in his book about the Bast Theory. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leoesb1032 ( talk • contribs) 02:17, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Yes, here is the link, may I put it on the page? http://books.google.com/books?id=jzqS72q-v88C&pg=PA22&lpg=PA22&dq=bast+colliery+theory&source=bl&ots=RE1gwEfOBr&sig=OrsefRfHYYxIiSqwBcaV2wLSjF4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=t4JyUejAI6LE0gHa-YHwBw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leoesb1032 ( talk • contribs) 11:59, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
The Bast Fire was a coal seam fire in 1932, if you believe that it should not be on the
Wiki page, I can write, "Although the Bast Theory is a popular theory, there is not much truth to it and a barrage of information lacks to reinforce it.
Sound good? — Preceding
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Alright I will go with that, but what I wrote about the Bast Theory is true and those who believe that Bast Theory also believe that the dump fire is unrelated to the Centralia Mine Fire. You are right though that they are two separate fires.
Okay, it's no big deal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leoesb1032 ( talk • contribs) 23:59, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
The article Centralia mine fire ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) was recently created, and linked from this article. However, that article (which is linked from this one using the {{ Main}} tag), contains much less detail than this article. As a result, it's a pretty pointless link.
Originally, the 'Centralia mine fire' page was a redirect to this page, but was created yesterday with a copy of a subset of this article's content. So we are left with the result of two articles containing duplicate information, but with this article containing greater detail. This makes a mess for maintenance, as there are now two articles to maintain.
To me, it makes more sense to change the other article back into being a redirect. Otherwise, if that one is to remain, at least purge most of the fire detail out of the 'Centralia, Pennsylvania' article and use that content to expand the 'Centralia mine fire' article, so that the material about the fire only needs to be maintained on a single page. --- Barek ( talk • contribs) - 23:17, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Should the Centralia mine fire have its own article, or remain as part of Centralia, Pennsylvania? --- Barek ( talk • contribs) - 02:42, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
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where needed. Put noinclude blocks around parts to not show in the town article, and so forth.- Andrew B ( talk) 23:32, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
I removed the incredibly long trivia section, and replaced it with a discussion of the town's legacy as an inspiration for many ghost towns in popular culture. I kept a few examples, which I think were highlighted by reliable sources as prominent examples, but, hopefully, this section won't take over the article again. If people want to add back some of the examples, that's fine, but I would request that they find reliable sources to back them up. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 15:25, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for removing that. It was as you said "Incredibly Long" and the viewers of Wikipedia have no desire to read it. Good move. Leoesb1032 ( talk) 19:12, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
We should have the photos that have to do w/ the Centralia mine fire on the mine fire's page. Ex.- Th pictures w/ the smoke in them. This could make a significant difference between the two articles and and give more reason to keep the page Centralia mine fire. Leoesb1032 ( talk) 19:00, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
I think that that article Byrnesville, Pennsylvania does not have enough information to remain as a single article.I am suggesting that we merge it with Centralia. Leoesb1032 ( talk) 12:32, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
"Every few years, a reporter will write a piece about the remaining residents of Centralia, wondering why they have not left."
I'm not an expert at Wikipedia, but does that belong in an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.208.146.162 ( talk) 14:37, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Is there any evidence that this mine is still burning? Can anyone get any citations from any news outlet that there is still a fire under the ground? This so-called "continuous" mine fire sounds like a figment of someone's imagination. Bobber0001 ( talk) 18:28, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Since there was no consensus in the previous merge discussion which is now nine months ago, I wanted to start a new one and try to establish some sort of consensus for whether the material should be merged or not. As I said previously, you can't have the fire without the town, and the town without the fire. The two are intricately linked and neither article is long enough to warrant two separate article about the same subject, especially when you remove the redundant information found in both articles. The previous discussion used the word "RfC" but no actual RfC template, so I'm placing one here to get more opinions to try to get a consensus one way or the other. Sorry, was wrong about that -
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I got the impression from reading this article (and the photos) that access to Centralia had been blocked or restricted. This bit in particular:
"The current route was formerly a detour around the damaged portion during the repairs and became a permanent route in 1993; mounds of dirt were placed at both ends of the former route, effectively blocking the road. Pedestrian traffic is still possible due to a small opening about two feet wide at the north side of the road. "
However this kinda ignores the fact that, in addition to pedestrian traffic via the gap, the new route 61 still leads into the town freely, as does route 42, and route 2004. Google map's satellite photo shows significant traffic passing through "downtown" Centralia. I haven't verified this in person so I don't want to make the change, but I certainly got the wrong impression from the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1:9600:771:659B:66C:DDD5:9C5D ( talk) 04:26, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
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It seems this town was the basis of the town in Nothing_but_Trouble_(1991_film). It should probably be mentioned there.
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I feel like this page deserves a section for notable residents from the town. One example of a notable resident from Centralia would be:
- Patrick Devine (1845-1908), coal miner, great grandfather of actor Brendan Fraser (as revealed on PBS' Finding Your Roots S10 E2). Buried in St. Ignatius Cemetery in Centralia. [4] [5] Brandondsantos ( talk) 19:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC)