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The naive category "Greek mythological people" (sic) does not properly apply to Cedalion: a glance at the category shows many other figures that can't rightly be called "people". -- (Wetman) 03:09, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
In an article where eleven lines of text (in my browser) are supported by seven footnotes, drawing upon Walter Burkert, Nonnus' Dionysiaca, Hesiod, pseudo-Eratosthenes' Catasterismi, Lucian, Sophocles, Iliad, the Suda, Friedrich Gottlieb Welcker and Karl Otfried Müller, it is natural to question which is the detail that User:Pmanderson has been able to discover, in order to apply the "disputed" tag, and justify an edit summary "tissue of speculation; unsupported by ancient sources" [sic]. There must be something here that User:Pmanderson just doesn't like as his recent remarks at Hera suggest. Hyrieus, User:Pmanderson reports, "was childless and a widower when he became the father of Orion" ...as if he were reporting facts of biography, without any attribution whatsoever. So, if User:Pmanderson sets such a low standard for himself, what— one might wonder— is his authentic motivation here? Intellectual honesty? Unlikely, it would appear. -- Wetman 01:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC).
I propose to trim to what Kerenyi's Gods of the Greeks says (p.156):
In addition to this, there is the unblinding of Orion, told in full under Orion (mythology) (p. 203); a group of phallic or half-animal tutors (also Priapus, Chiron, Silenus, Pallas p.177); and Prometheus, "like a second Kedalion" took fire from the sun's wheel (not further explained). (sourced to a scholion on Eclogues 6.42).
I congratulate Wetman on the amount of original research he has managed to insert. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:48, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
I have deleted the reference to Servius' commentary on Aeneid 10.763, as it bears on Orion's drunkenness and blinding but not in any way on Cedalion: is [Liber] satyros misit qui soporem infunderent Orioni et sic velut vinctum Oenopioni traderent arbitrio eius puniendum. Tum ille Oenopion sopito ei oculos sustulit. I note this because as a general rule, deleting references can be read as a mark of unscrupulous behavior. -- Wetman 05:07, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Did Orion place Cedallion on his shoulders to take him east? Is it possible Orion place Cedallion on his shoulders so as to guide him as where to since Orion was blind? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.144.248.26 ( talk) 18:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
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The naive category "Greek mythological people" (sic) does not properly apply to Cedalion: a glance at the category shows many other figures that can't rightly be called "people". -- (Wetman) 03:09, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
In an article where eleven lines of text (in my browser) are supported by seven footnotes, drawing upon Walter Burkert, Nonnus' Dionysiaca, Hesiod, pseudo-Eratosthenes' Catasterismi, Lucian, Sophocles, Iliad, the Suda, Friedrich Gottlieb Welcker and Karl Otfried Müller, it is natural to question which is the detail that User:Pmanderson has been able to discover, in order to apply the "disputed" tag, and justify an edit summary "tissue of speculation; unsupported by ancient sources" [sic]. There must be something here that User:Pmanderson just doesn't like as his recent remarks at Hera suggest. Hyrieus, User:Pmanderson reports, "was childless and a widower when he became the father of Orion" ...as if he were reporting facts of biography, without any attribution whatsoever. So, if User:Pmanderson sets such a low standard for himself, what— one might wonder— is his authentic motivation here? Intellectual honesty? Unlikely, it would appear. -- Wetman 01:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC).
I propose to trim to what Kerenyi's Gods of the Greeks says (p.156):
In addition to this, there is the unblinding of Orion, told in full under Orion (mythology) (p. 203); a group of phallic or half-animal tutors (also Priapus, Chiron, Silenus, Pallas p.177); and Prometheus, "like a second Kedalion" took fire from the sun's wheel (not further explained). (sourced to a scholion on Eclogues 6.42).
I congratulate Wetman on the amount of original research he has managed to insert. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:48, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
I have deleted the reference to Servius' commentary on Aeneid 10.763, as it bears on Orion's drunkenness and blinding but not in any way on Cedalion: is [Liber] satyros misit qui soporem infunderent Orioni et sic velut vinctum Oenopioni traderent arbitrio eius puniendum. Tum ille Oenopion sopito ei oculos sustulit. I note this because as a general rule, deleting references can be read as a mark of unscrupulous behavior. -- Wetman 05:07, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Did Orion place Cedallion on his shoulders to take him east? Is it possible Orion place Cedallion on his shoulders so as to guide him as where to since Orion was blind? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.144.248.26 ( talk) 18:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)