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I happened to find this page by chance. It's very well-written, but there are very few links that come to this page. I've added the WikiProjectLinguistics tag on this page so that hopefully more readership will be able to find it and link other pages to it. Joeystanley ( talk) 14:26, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
I'm interested in the history of this page. It started as a stub by User:Erutuon in 2011. Then, out of nowhere, four users ( User:Milena.Vaz, User:Eliachow, User:Becksreed, and User:Natalielo93) started contributing a massive amount to the page in two months (Oct to Dec 2013). All four apparently created the accounts soon before these edits, deleted them soon after, and made virtually no edits besides the ones on this page. Does anyone know why these four users came, contributed so much, and left? Was it part of a semester project or something? (The timing does seem to fit.) I'd like to add to the page and tie it in with the page on Causatives, but I would like to communicate with them first. Joeystanley ( talk) 17:15, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
I have no idea what Sabo was smoking, but the sentence is 110% grammatical without the reflexive pronoun, it just becomes a regular full-on passive or adjectival construction instead: "the bottles are broken [by someone/something]". I've shifted the sentence to a tense that does not have auxiliaries to correct that. Circéus ( talk) 01:35, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Chapter: Child Language Acquisition - last 2 sentences...
• It has been suggested that children learn this is through the no negative evidence problem;
‘that children learn this is...’ ???
• for example a child will learn that the verb ‘throw’ can never be used in a subject position: *”the ball threw”.[17]
How can a verb be in a subject position? What’s the grammatical idea behind this? ‘threw’ being intransitive only? Inanimate subject?
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‘In children...’ -> Doesn’t make any sense to me! Mramosch ( talk) 18:04, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
How are these verbs distinct from ergative verbs? I'm having trouble telling them apart. It seems that at a minimum the concepts are close enough that they could link to each other. Note they are both in Category:Transitivity and valency. – M.boli ( talk) 21:06, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Causative alternation and labile verb seem to refer to the same thing. Should they be merged? — AjaxSmack 23:30, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
"Labile verbs" should be the merge target, do you mean that Labile verb should be merged to Causative alternation (the latter being broader), or do you mean that the target (in the sense of "target=" within a merge template) should be Labile verb. Klbrain ( talk) 10:23, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
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The contents of the Causative alternation page were merged into Labile verb on 21 August 2023 and it now redirects there. For the contribution history and old versions of the merged article please see its history. |
I happened to find this page by chance. It's very well-written, but there are very few links that come to this page. I've added the WikiProjectLinguistics tag on this page so that hopefully more readership will be able to find it and link other pages to it. Joeystanley ( talk) 14:26, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
I'm interested in the history of this page. It started as a stub by User:Erutuon in 2011. Then, out of nowhere, four users ( User:Milena.Vaz, User:Eliachow, User:Becksreed, and User:Natalielo93) started contributing a massive amount to the page in two months (Oct to Dec 2013). All four apparently created the accounts soon before these edits, deleted them soon after, and made virtually no edits besides the ones on this page. Does anyone know why these four users came, contributed so much, and left? Was it part of a semester project or something? (The timing does seem to fit.) I'd like to add to the page and tie it in with the page on Causatives, but I would like to communicate with them first. Joeystanley ( talk) 17:15, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
I have no idea what Sabo was smoking, but the sentence is 110% grammatical without the reflexive pronoun, it just becomes a regular full-on passive or adjectival construction instead: "the bottles are broken [by someone/something]". I've shifted the sentence to a tense that does not have auxiliaries to correct that. Circéus ( talk) 01:35, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Chapter: Child Language Acquisition - last 2 sentences...
• It has been suggested that children learn this is through the no negative evidence problem;
‘that children learn this is...’ ???
• for example a child will learn that the verb ‘throw’ can never be used in a subject position: *”the ball threw”.[17]
How can a verb be in a subject position? What’s the grammatical idea behind this? ‘threw’ being intransitive only? Inanimate subject?
Next Paragraph header starts with ‘In children with specific language impairments’
‘In children...’ -> Doesn’t make any sense to me! Mramosch ( talk) 18:04, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
How are these verbs distinct from ergative verbs? I'm having trouble telling them apart. It seems that at a minimum the concepts are close enough that they could link to each other. Note they are both in Category:Transitivity and valency. – M.boli ( talk) 21:06, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Causative alternation and labile verb seem to refer to the same thing. Should they be merged? — AjaxSmack 23:30, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
"Labile verbs" should be the merge target, do you mean that Labile verb should be merged to Causative alternation (the latter being broader), or do you mean that the target (in the sense of "target=" within a merge template) should be Labile verb. Klbrain ( talk) 10:23, 15 July 2023 (UTC)