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This article has been subject to a peer review, and has subsequently been nominated for featured article status. Please feel free to comment on the peer review page if you still feel improvements can be made. Harro5 04:03, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
I am currently adding extra content based on great advice and feedback from Ambi. Hopefully this will take the aticle one step closer to FA status. Harro5 10:40, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
Hi there, this is my first time on Wikipedia and I can't work out how to edit the page. I suggest you change the last paragraph in the 'Nanjing' section as you have factual errors. I used to work at the Nanjing campus in 2004 as a trainee. The students in 2001 did not graffiti the Great Wall - they graffitied the Ming Tombs in Nanjing. Also you link to the "ming dynasty tombs" page. This site is in beijing and students do not go there. Students go to the Ming Tombs in Nanjing. Would appreciate if you change this. Hoops 13:39, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Feel free to address any of these issues (particularly the last two) if you wish. Harro5 09:37, May 27, 2005 (UTC)
This article has been greatly improved with the help of Kerowyn, Bishonen and Malathion, who have removed unnecessary sections, fixed language, and NPOVed the piece. Thanks to all these editors. Harro5 July 6, 2005 23:26 (UTC)
Moving these templates here to leave FA at the top on its own.
The intro should give more motivation for the article. My first reaction to this article was "why should I care?". After reading the article more thoroughly, it's obvious that the school is notable (their orchestra went on a world tour?) but this wasn't immediately obvious. Isomorphic 9 July 2005 16:08 (UTC)
It would be good if the page indicated how much subsidy the school recieves from State and Federal governments. Also, isn't Nick Cave one of the alumni?
-- EuropracBHIT 06:15, 28 November 2005 (UTC).
It reads like a shameless ad promoting the school, definitely not as an encyclopedia article; one such example:
"Caulfield achieves highly in statewide rankings of schools offering the VCE, and the annual Dux of the School often achieves an ENTER ranking of 99.95 (the highest possible ranking, placing the student in approximately the top 20 students in the state)"
I can find no mention of why it's called "Caulfield Grammar School". This strikes me as unusual since, I would imagine, every student in the place can probably tell me who/what/where Caulfield is and why I should care about him/her/it. I'm curious for obvious reasons -- EmmetCaulfield 20:33, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Move to here to separate from "Why Caulfield?"
Given that Caulfield Grammar School’s founder was one Joseph Henry Davies, and that he employed his two brothers and sister, and that Davies is not a common name in Melbourne's history, I feel that it is most important for this article to explicitly state whether or not the Victorian Cabinet minister, Sir John Davies, (Valentine's Mansion, Malvern Grammar School) was related in any way to the CGS Davies family.
Thus, it would either say ". . . and in 1924 moved into the Valentine's Mansion, formerly the home of Sir John Davies, a Victorian Cabinet minister, and the ( nephew/cousin/son, etc.) of Joseph Henry Davies. . ." or ". . . and in 1924 moved into the Valentine's Mansion, formerly the home of Sir John Davies (not a relative of the school’s founder), a Victorian Cabinet minister."
Hope this information is easy to trace, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.94.6.28 ( talk • contribs)
On the basis of St. Kevin's College, Melbourne's display of their "College War Cry", their "School Song", a description of the heraldic constituents of their school crest, and their house names, would any of that sort of stuff further embellish this site. For example, the School Song plus Mrs. Archer's music might be published on the site in the form of a pdf?
I earnestly beg you, however, if you are going to publish the CGS war-cry, that you please avoid publishing the "meet them, beat them, treat them all the same, Caul-field Gram-mar is the name!" version that was once imposed upon the school by Stan Kurrle (Old Grammarian)
Under the sub-category of sport, I believe that it is essential to stress that one of the massive changes to CGS when it moved from AGS (of Victoria) into APS (of Victoria) was the introduction of foreign-to-traditional-CGS sports such as rowing. As I recall, one of the major reasons for entering the APS was to have a much higher level of overall competition in Aussie Rules and cricket. I also recall, that the APS made a number of very strong sports-based conditions (including the introduction of rowing) upon the entry of CGS. It seems important to include that stuff, because it represented a very, very important change to the (then prevailing) CGS culture. I'm sure that Horrie Webber's book and Ian Wilkinson's book will support this and, also, provide lots more detail. Finally, it was very definitely my impression at the time, that the move into the APS was far more sports related than it was status related. (Old Grammarian)
Thought I'd say, Caufield Campus' IP address is 203.94.129.158. I should know, I go to this school. -- AAA! 10:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Any chance of giving the new archivist a mention (and, as well, should her email address be included?)
What's up with this edit? -- A Bothan Spy 00:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
This looks like a pretty solid article -- there are just a few things that need addressing:
The article obviously doesn't read like blatant POV, so I'm not suspicious of the factual accuracy of the information provided. However, without inline citations, I as a reader am unable to tell whether any particular fact is verified or not. I see five general citations down at the bottom; ideally, those should be accompanied by <ref> notes with the specific page cited from those volumes.
Here are two other thoughts I had that won't stop me from promoting the GA, but about which you should think if you're looking ahead to another FAC.
Drop me a line when you've addressed or explained my concerns. Dylan ( talk) 05:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Sorry I wasn't able to help more, I've been tied up with other things today. Moot point, because you've done a fine job of addressing my concerns. Nice work! If you use inline citations a bit more, this won't be far from being reinstated as an FA. Dylan ( talk) 01:07, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi all,
Just wanted to hear other people's opinion on the academics section. To me i think its unnecessary, requires more citations, advertisement like and I don't think its suitable for wikipedia. Furthermore a lot of the history section is not really wikipedia material. I'm happy to discuss.
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Just wanted to hear other people's opinion on the academics section. To me i think its unnecessary, requires more citations, advertisement like and I don't think its suitable for wikipedia. Furthermore a lot of the history section is not really wikipedia material. I'm happy to discuss.
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Hi, I've been going through this article and there was a litany of really obvious issues with chronology WP:VERIFY, WP:RELIABLE, WP:BOOSTER, WP:NEUTRAL and WP:DUE, several claims with no relevance to the article at all were included, lots of un-cited claims, piles of undue detail, non-neutal language and lots of boosterisms. I've tidied up the obvious problems...and I've been very generous in leaving the lions share of claims cited to WP:PRIMARY sources which really don't belong on Wikipedia either, if we were to stick to the rules, but I don't want to gut the article and believe we can find reliable third party sources to back those claims. Someone has done a very thorough job at some point, but it's been filled out with unverifiable claims and trivia. This article needs a heap of work and based on all the boosterisms and non-neutral language I'd urge Caulfield Grammar staff, students and Alumni editing this article to read this guideline and declare their WP:CONFLICT as is required. Tambor de Tocino ( talk) 01:05, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
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Hi there, this is my first time on Wikipedia and I can't work out how to edit the page. I suggest you change the last paragraph in the 'Nanjing' section as you have factual errors. I used to work at the Nanjing campus in 2004 as a trainee. The students in 2001 did not graffiti the Great Wall - they graffitied the Ming Tombs in Nanjing. Also you link to the "ming dynasty tombs" page. This site is in beijing and students do not go there. Students go to the Ming Tombs in Nanjing. Would appreciate if you change this. Hoops 13:39, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Feel free to address any of these issues (particularly the last two) if you wish. Harro5 09:37, May 27, 2005 (UTC)
This article has been greatly improved with the help of Kerowyn, Bishonen and Malathion, who have removed unnecessary sections, fixed language, and NPOVed the piece. Thanks to all these editors. Harro5 July 6, 2005 23:26 (UTC)
Moving these templates here to leave FA at the top on its own.
The intro should give more motivation for the article. My first reaction to this article was "why should I care?". After reading the article more thoroughly, it's obvious that the school is notable (their orchestra went on a world tour?) but this wasn't immediately obvious. Isomorphic 9 July 2005 16:08 (UTC)
It would be good if the page indicated how much subsidy the school recieves from State and Federal governments. Also, isn't Nick Cave one of the alumni?
-- EuropracBHIT 06:15, 28 November 2005 (UTC).
It reads like a shameless ad promoting the school, definitely not as an encyclopedia article; one such example:
"Caulfield achieves highly in statewide rankings of schools offering the VCE, and the annual Dux of the School often achieves an ENTER ranking of 99.95 (the highest possible ranking, placing the student in approximately the top 20 students in the state)"
I can find no mention of why it's called "Caulfield Grammar School". This strikes me as unusual since, I would imagine, every student in the place can probably tell me who/what/where Caulfield is and why I should care about him/her/it. I'm curious for obvious reasons -- EmmetCaulfield 20:33, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Move to here to separate from "Why Caulfield?"
Given that Caulfield Grammar School’s founder was one Joseph Henry Davies, and that he employed his two brothers and sister, and that Davies is not a common name in Melbourne's history, I feel that it is most important for this article to explicitly state whether or not the Victorian Cabinet minister, Sir John Davies, (Valentine's Mansion, Malvern Grammar School) was related in any way to the CGS Davies family.
Thus, it would either say ". . . and in 1924 moved into the Valentine's Mansion, formerly the home of Sir John Davies, a Victorian Cabinet minister, and the ( nephew/cousin/son, etc.) of Joseph Henry Davies. . ." or ". . . and in 1924 moved into the Valentine's Mansion, formerly the home of Sir John Davies (not a relative of the school’s founder), a Victorian Cabinet minister."
Hope this information is easy to trace, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.94.6.28 ( talk • contribs)
On the basis of St. Kevin's College, Melbourne's display of their "College War Cry", their "School Song", a description of the heraldic constituents of their school crest, and their house names, would any of that sort of stuff further embellish this site. For example, the School Song plus Mrs. Archer's music might be published on the site in the form of a pdf?
I earnestly beg you, however, if you are going to publish the CGS war-cry, that you please avoid publishing the "meet them, beat them, treat them all the same, Caul-field Gram-mar is the name!" version that was once imposed upon the school by Stan Kurrle (Old Grammarian)
Under the sub-category of sport, I believe that it is essential to stress that one of the massive changes to CGS when it moved from AGS (of Victoria) into APS (of Victoria) was the introduction of foreign-to-traditional-CGS sports such as rowing. As I recall, one of the major reasons for entering the APS was to have a much higher level of overall competition in Aussie Rules and cricket. I also recall, that the APS made a number of very strong sports-based conditions (including the introduction of rowing) upon the entry of CGS. It seems important to include that stuff, because it represented a very, very important change to the (then prevailing) CGS culture. I'm sure that Horrie Webber's book and Ian Wilkinson's book will support this and, also, provide lots more detail. Finally, it was very definitely my impression at the time, that the move into the APS was far more sports related than it was status related. (Old Grammarian)
Thought I'd say, Caufield Campus' IP address is 203.94.129.158. I should know, I go to this school. -- AAA! 10:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Any chance of giving the new archivist a mention (and, as well, should her email address be included?)
What's up with this edit? -- A Bothan Spy 00:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
This looks like a pretty solid article -- there are just a few things that need addressing:
The article obviously doesn't read like blatant POV, so I'm not suspicious of the factual accuracy of the information provided. However, without inline citations, I as a reader am unable to tell whether any particular fact is verified or not. I see five general citations down at the bottom; ideally, those should be accompanied by <ref> notes with the specific page cited from those volumes.
Here are two other thoughts I had that won't stop me from promoting the GA, but about which you should think if you're looking ahead to another FAC.
Drop me a line when you've addressed or explained my concerns. Dylan ( talk) 05:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Sorry I wasn't able to help more, I've been tied up with other things today. Moot point, because you've done a fine job of addressing my concerns. Nice work! If you use inline citations a bit more, this won't be far from being reinstated as an FA. Dylan ( talk) 01:07, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
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Just wanted to hear other people's opinion on the academics section. To me i think its unnecessary, requires more citations, advertisement like and I don't think its suitable for wikipedia. Furthermore a lot of the history section is not really wikipedia material. I'm happy to discuss.
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Hi, I've been going through this article and there was a litany of really obvious issues with chronology WP:VERIFY, WP:RELIABLE, WP:BOOSTER, WP:NEUTRAL and WP:DUE, several claims with no relevance to the article at all were included, lots of un-cited claims, piles of undue detail, non-neutal language and lots of boosterisms. I've tidied up the obvious problems...and I've been very generous in leaving the lions share of claims cited to WP:PRIMARY sources which really don't belong on Wikipedia either, if we were to stick to the rules, but I don't want to gut the article and believe we can find reliable third party sources to back those claims. Someone has done a very thorough job at some point, but it's been filled out with unverifiable claims and trivia. This article needs a heap of work and based on all the boosterisms and non-neutral language I'd urge Caulfield Grammar staff, students and Alumni editing this article to read this guideline and declare their WP:CONFLICT as is required. Tambor de Tocino ( talk) 01:05, 25 April 2023 (UTC)