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There is a couple of hypothesis of where this dangerous strain originated from. I haven't read too deep into it, so I restrained to add this information on the front article, but believe it need to be mentioned somehow, if someone more competent can spare a second.
I think one of them was it was havested from some sea and assisted to breed faster. I am not sure this make sense though. I am spectical because I can't understand why it never spread before man interfered, if it had always existed in the water. May be I misread something or I am nuturally a moron and unable to synthesis some biological aspect of the literature.
The second hypothsis was mutation when man started breeding it in the cold ponds. Whether the mutation was induced by man or just occured naturally, I have no clue. This hypothesis seem more solid, as that explain the lack of natural enemies. The change was outside its natural environment and therefore didn't give its predactor a chance to evolve.
I can't remember the other stuff of head. One more thing that would improve this introduction part of this article is to move up or down the mentioning of the strain to where the detail of this specific stain start. For example, is it only this specific strain that produce one very potent toxin or is this common with all its sister strain? gathima 15:10, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
they need to make slug wet suits so they can get to work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.177.93.235 ( talk) 04:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
There are no citations for ANY claims of ecological harm, (one actually references Alan Alda) though there are citations for claims to the opposite (of beneficial ecological effects). If none of the "harm" claims can be verified, I think the section should be renamed "Beneficial Non-native Species" and be re-written accordingly. Of course, if some verifiable claims of economic harm were be added, then it should be renamed "Pest Status" or something similar, and re-written accordingly.
All information without citations will be removed at some point after 10/10/2011. If no verifiable claims of ecological or economic harm have been made, the title of the subsection "invasive species" will be renamed. 72.152.233.97 ( talk) 22:08, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Since no verifiable citations were added, the article was re-written to reflect current scientific findings. Pinus jeffreyi ( talk) 20:41, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Is that fat museum curator from Monaco writing this crap? Fine, keep saying it's a happy happy plant. http://www.environment.gov.au/cgi-bin/biodiversity/invasive/weeds/weeddetails.pl?taxon_id=67619 http://www.environment.gov.au/resource/eradicating-and-preventing-spread-invasive-alga-caulerpa-taxifolia-nsw Nope, no papers anywhere saying it's bad... I'll just leave this cached page here... nothing to see... https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rMPVefrf08UJ:https://pure.abdn.ac.uk:8443/ws/files/54212538/2015_Aquatic_Invasions_Aplikioti_et_al..pdf+&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Bet that ended up saying the algae gave hummers too, that's how great it is. And the animals love it... The fish have bad body image, so that's why they're starving... No no, algae is not toxic at all... https://www.plymouth.ac.uk/news/research-suggests-marine-invasive-species-benefit-from-rising-co2-levels Zero research says... oh dropped another one... So clumsy... https://www.researchgate.net/publication/277921319_A_tale_of_two_invaders_divergent_spreading_kinetics_of_the_alien_green_algae_Caulerpa_taxifolia_and_Caulerpa_cylindracea I'll admit, there were a few that almost agreed with you... As long as you were taking about the Indian ocean. Its native habitat. But we are not talking about its native range, but where it is an invasive species. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.107.138.23 ( talk) 10:50, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
This article on Caulerpa taxifolia says that C. taxifolia is the largest unicellular organism. The article on Syringammina fragilissima says S. fragilissima is the largest single-celled organism.
Care to explain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Widgetdog ( talk • contribs) 21:17, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm looking to update/find citations needed to increase the strength of this article and possibly add new sections and information. Perhaps adding/reorganizing the sections so that there is a section for Distribution (Native Habitat-Indian Ocean-and Nonnative Habitat-locations including the Mediterranean Sea, California, and other locations across the world)? Then discuss its physical description, reproduction mechanism, and invasive qualities uderneath the section "Description". MarineMermaidSar ( talk) 20:44, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
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I've been under the impression that this "killer algae" is harmful where it is an invasive species, smothering local marine life and whatnot. This article, however, seems to refute that view, and propose that Caulerpa taxifolia does good where it is introduced, citing a couple of 1990's studies. However, a quick search just now discovered info like this:
It's clear that a particular cold-water-tolerant Mediterranean strain is highly invasive, but not immediately clear as to how the severity of the harm it causes, only that it alarms people. Anyone know more: is this article misstating the case in suggesting that there is no big problem? -- Tsavage ( talk) 19:10, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
@ Tsavage: @ Tuvalkin: (and even you from 2017, @ MarineMermaidSar:) Hey there. I, too happened across this article (via the Jacques Cousteau page) and somehow it just grabbed me as just being an all-around sucky, disappointing article (lack of citations, bad organization, bias on both sides, and a general lack of facts) and I decided to immerse myself in research for four hours to make it what I wished it had been when I found it. The cites are probably a mess and there's much more out there (both in the cites I added and stuff that I don't have the energy to pull in right now, and I know nothing about the topic other than what I just learned from four hours of internet research, but here's a takeaway and summary of some editorial choices I made:
In any case, nearly every sentence in the rewritten article now has a citation, and I hope that any differences people may have with the implied tone of the article will be likewise supported by citations, so people can come away from reading it with the feeling that they are now reasonably informed on the subject, which was certainly not a feeling I had after reading the previous version. Hopefully you find the changes to be an improvement. Cheers. Ataru ( talk) 23:16, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
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There is a couple of hypothesis of where this dangerous strain originated from. I haven't read too deep into it, so I restrained to add this information on the front article, but believe it need to be mentioned somehow, if someone more competent can spare a second.
I think one of them was it was havested from some sea and assisted to breed faster. I am not sure this make sense though. I am spectical because I can't understand why it never spread before man interfered, if it had always existed in the water. May be I misread something or I am nuturally a moron and unable to synthesis some biological aspect of the literature.
The second hypothsis was mutation when man started breeding it in the cold ponds. Whether the mutation was induced by man or just occured naturally, I have no clue. This hypothesis seem more solid, as that explain the lack of natural enemies. The change was outside its natural environment and therefore didn't give its predactor a chance to evolve.
I can't remember the other stuff of head. One more thing that would improve this introduction part of this article is to move up or down the mentioning of the strain to where the detail of this specific stain start. For example, is it only this specific strain that produce one very potent toxin or is this common with all its sister strain? gathima 15:10, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
they need to make slug wet suits so they can get to work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.177.93.235 ( talk) 04:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
There are no citations for ANY claims of ecological harm, (one actually references Alan Alda) though there are citations for claims to the opposite (of beneficial ecological effects). If none of the "harm" claims can be verified, I think the section should be renamed "Beneficial Non-native Species" and be re-written accordingly. Of course, if some verifiable claims of economic harm were be added, then it should be renamed "Pest Status" or something similar, and re-written accordingly.
All information without citations will be removed at some point after 10/10/2011. If no verifiable claims of ecological or economic harm have been made, the title of the subsection "invasive species" will be renamed. 72.152.233.97 ( talk) 22:08, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Since no verifiable citations were added, the article was re-written to reflect current scientific findings. Pinus jeffreyi ( talk) 20:41, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Is that fat museum curator from Monaco writing this crap? Fine, keep saying it's a happy happy plant. http://www.environment.gov.au/cgi-bin/biodiversity/invasive/weeds/weeddetails.pl?taxon_id=67619 http://www.environment.gov.au/resource/eradicating-and-preventing-spread-invasive-alga-caulerpa-taxifolia-nsw Nope, no papers anywhere saying it's bad... I'll just leave this cached page here... nothing to see... https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rMPVefrf08UJ:https://pure.abdn.ac.uk:8443/ws/files/54212538/2015_Aquatic_Invasions_Aplikioti_et_al..pdf+&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Bet that ended up saying the algae gave hummers too, that's how great it is. And the animals love it... The fish have bad body image, so that's why they're starving... No no, algae is not toxic at all... https://www.plymouth.ac.uk/news/research-suggests-marine-invasive-species-benefit-from-rising-co2-levels Zero research says... oh dropped another one... So clumsy... https://www.researchgate.net/publication/277921319_A_tale_of_two_invaders_divergent_spreading_kinetics_of_the_alien_green_algae_Caulerpa_taxifolia_and_Caulerpa_cylindracea I'll admit, there were a few that almost agreed with you... As long as you were taking about the Indian ocean. Its native habitat. But we are not talking about its native range, but where it is an invasive species. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.107.138.23 ( talk) 10:50, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
This article on Caulerpa taxifolia says that C. taxifolia is the largest unicellular organism. The article on Syringammina fragilissima says S. fragilissima is the largest single-celled organism.
Care to explain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Widgetdog ( talk • contribs) 21:17, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm looking to update/find citations needed to increase the strength of this article and possibly add new sections and information. Perhaps adding/reorganizing the sections so that there is a section for Distribution (Native Habitat-Indian Ocean-and Nonnative Habitat-locations including the Mediterranean Sea, California, and other locations across the world)? Then discuss its physical description, reproduction mechanism, and invasive qualities uderneath the section "Description". MarineMermaidSar ( talk) 20:44, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
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I've been under the impression that this "killer algae" is harmful where it is an invasive species, smothering local marine life and whatnot. This article, however, seems to refute that view, and propose that Caulerpa taxifolia does good where it is introduced, citing a couple of 1990's studies. However, a quick search just now discovered info like this:
It's clear that a particular cold-water-tolerant Mediterranean strain is highly invasive, but not immediately clear as to how the severity of the harm it causes, only that it alarms people. Anyone know more: is this article misstating the case in suggesting that there is no big problem? -- Tsavage ( talk) 19:10, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
@ Tsavage: @ Tuvalkin: (and even you from 2017, @ MarineMermaidSar:) Hey there. I, too happened across this article (via the Jacques Cousteau page) and somehow it just grabbed me as just being an all-around sucky, disappointing article (lack of citations, bad organization, bias on both sides, and a general lack of facts) and I decided to immerse myself in research for four hours to make it what I wished it had been when I found it. The cites are probably a mess and there's much more out there (both in the cites I added and stuff that I don't have the energy to pull in right now, and I know nothing about the topic other than what I just learned from four hours of internet research, but here's a takeaway and summary of some editorial choices I made:
In any case, nearly every sentence in the rewritten article now has a citation, and I hope that any differences people may have with the implied tone of the article will be likewise supported by citations, so people can come away from reading it with the feeling that they are now reasonably informed on the subject, which was certainly not a feeling I had after reading the previous version. Hopefully you find the changes to be an improvement. Cheers. Ataru ( talk) 23:16, 23 May 2021 (UTC)