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This entry, one of an unprecedented 52, has won the September 2005 West Dakota Prize, awarded for successfully employing the expression "legend states" in a complete sentence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wetman ( talk • contribs) 19:45, 9 September 2005
I have moved two paragraphs here from the article. These paragraphs make anecdotal statements, using phrasing which obscures their lack of sources ("Local legend states" and "It is thought by some"). I was not able to find citations for these sources in any of the References that I had access to. These pieces of information should definitely be in the article if reliable sources exist. I hope that they will be replaced, with explicit references to each of them. Proper citation is most important in statements such as these, which can often be anecdotal, or based on urban legend. I'd be happy to discuss this issue on my talk page. -- Creidieki 02:13, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone have information about the steam tunnels that run under Pitt's campus? Can anyone point me to information on this? -- Chris Griswold( ☏) 08:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
This article says the Cathedral is arguably the tallest, when you adjust for the spire on top of Moscow State's main building. However, the MGU building is 240m tall, of which the spire is 57m, so discounting that, it's still 20m taller than the Cathedral. Does anyone have different information that refutes this? -- Lenin1991 14:44, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
I'd assume the writer was referring to the number of floors in each building. Mwv2 22:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
The references on this page need to be fixed. -- evrik 18:29, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
I have a tour of the Commons Room in the Cathedral. Here's the link, I have no idea where to add it on the main article.
http://www.mapwing.com/explore/view_tour.php?t=1167j71j2j2j7
I'll also be adding some point tours of the International rooms when I get the time.
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Considering removing CathedraloL_blackbox.jpg from this page for blurriness per Wikipedia:Images#Choosing_images: "Poor quality images (too dark, blurry, etc.) or where the subject in the image is too small, hidden in clutter, ambiguous or otherwise not obvious, should not be used." kreeningsons
Considering removing PittCathedralofLearningCommonsHDR.jpg because the image has been post-processed so much that it is misleading. And it's garish to boot. Upload a straighforward shot if you want to but there's no point to include that photo with that much post-processing in an informative encyclopedia. The texture of the masonry and walls can be seen more accurately in Cathedral_of_Learning_inside_entrance.jpg. kreeningsons
Is there any chance a Pitt student or anyone else local could get a few new images for these nationality rooms? These are all copyrighted images and should be easily replaced - admission to most of these rooms is free. Remember that copyrighted images really should only be used if there's no way to find an alternative image. I don't think that's the case here. -- Midnightdreary 04:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
How about the picture of the 1960 World Series from the top of the building? Deigo 04:59, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Pretty sure I can get a source for this, actually, but it'll require me getting documents back from someone who has them and is currently in Denver... give me a week. Lyellin ( talk) 03:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Has anyone else heard of these stories? When I attended Pitt in the 90s, a member of the janitorial staff related stories to me about how the room was haunted, frightening some of the staff to the extent they refused to clean it. I have no first hand knowledge of this and do not know of any published references supporting this. CrazyPaco ( talk) 04:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
I've heard the outdoor night time lights of the cathedral have some relationship to whether the football team won or lost. Can anyone verify if this is true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.57.249 ( talk) 18:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/9064342 mentions this.
I think they are meant to be Panther "Gold" not "yellow" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.57.249 ( talk) 18:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
The main article on University of Pittsburgh mentions it: "Victory Lights is a tradition where golden flood lights illuminate the top of the Cathedral of Learning after every home football victory.[104][121][122]" I think that this should obviously be included in the Cathedral's article because it is an interesting fact about the Cathedral that is useful to the public. —Preceding
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The article currently has 13 links in the External Links section. I believe that they ought to be trimmed down to the essentials (perhaps 3–5 links) per the suggestions and policies under WP:EL and WP:NOTLINK. — Notyourbroom ( talk) 01:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Originally in the lead, the number of windows in the Cathedral of Learning was listed at 2,529. This was likely originally sourced on the Pitt virtual tour description of the Cathedral of Learning (see here). A recent IP edit changed that number to 2,128. The IP did not source the change, but provided this is the edit summary: "per professor saaty", apparently in reference to Pitt professor Thomas L. Saaty. How Saaty might have knowledge of the correct window number is unknown. For the time being, or until the exact number of windows can be verified, I have changed the lead to read a less exacting "contains more than 2,000 rooms and windows" to avoid possible inaccuracy. CrazyPaco ( talk) 23:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
I've done major reference cleanups on Cornell University here and Fred Rogers here. I think this article will be my next focus, but not tonight. — Bill Price( notyourbroom) 04:13, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
The article previously has had a formal dedication date for the Cathedral on June 7, 1937. Hholt01's edit brought my attention to it because I wanted to add it to the Pitt Portal "on this day" feature. However, I wanted to verify the date, which led me to the problem. I went back through Google newspaper archives and did an extensive search of Pitt's on-line Documenting Pitt digital archive. What I found was ambiguous, and conflicting. Certainly, formal dedication ceremonies were held from June 1st through June 8th of 1937. This corresponded not only with Pitt's commencement that year, but also with sesquicentennial celebrations that were capped by these "dedication ceremonies". There was a formal installation of a corner stone in the Commons Room on June 4th. That is certain. Some articles refer to that as the Cathedral dedication, other to it as the Commons Room dedication. What happened on June 7 was a formal graduate and faculty banquet celebrating the sesquicentennial that took place in the Commons Room: apparently the first such banquet to be held there. In a few places, this is mentioned as a dedication ceremony for the Cathedral. However, mention of if being a dedication ceremony is missing from several key articles where you'd expect such a mention, e.g. the alumni magazines that covered the event, a timeline in Alberts' history. Because the exact date of an official dedication day is somewhat ambiguous at this time, I removed mention of the 7th as the precise day, so that it just reads June, 1937. If anyone has a more definitive source, please post it here. CrazyPaco ( talk) 19:22, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
As of the 28 December edit, it says "Cathedral of Leaning" in several locations. Please correct. 71.60.84.89 ( talk) 08:42, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
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This entry, one of an unprecedented 52, has won the September 2005 West Dakota Prize, awarded for successfully employing the expression "legend states" in a complete sentence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wetman ( talk • contribs) 19:45, 9 September 2005
I have moved two paragraphs here from the article. These paragraphs make anecdotal statements, using phrasing which obscures their lack of sources ("Local legend states" and "It is thought by some"). I was not able to find citations for these sources in any of the References that I had access to. These pieces of information should definitely be in the article if reliable sources exist. I hope that they will be replaced, with explicit references to each of them. Proper citation is most important in statements such as these, which can often be anecdotal, or based on urban legend. I'd be happy to discuss this issue on my talk page. -- Creidieki 02:13, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone have information about the steam tunnels that run under Pitt's campus? Can anyone point me to information on this? -- Chris Griswold( ☏) 08:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
This article says the Cathedral is arguably the tallest, when you adjust for the spire on top of Moscow State's main building. However, the MGU building is 240m tall, of which the spire is 57m, so discounting that, it's still 20m taller than the Cathedral. Does anyone have different information that refutes this? -- Lenin1991 14:44, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
I'd assume the writer was referring to the number of floors in each building. Mwv2 22:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
The references on this page need to be fixed. -- evrik 18:29, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
I have a tour of the Commons Room in the Cathedral. Here's the link, I have no idea where to add it on the main article.
http://www.mapwing.com/explore/view_tour.php?t=1167j71j2j2j7
I'll also be adding some point tours of the International rooms when I get the time.
Clh23 19:28, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Considering removing CathedraloL_blackbox.jpg from this page for blurriness per Wikipedia:Images#Choosing_images: "Poor quality images (too dark, blurry, etc.) or where the subject in the image is too small, hidden in clutter, ambiguous or otherwise not obvious, should not be used." kreeningsons
Considering removing PittCathedralofLearningCommonsHDR.jpg because the image has been post-processed so much that it is misleading. And it's garish to boot. Upload a straighforward shot if you want to but there's no point to include that photo with that much post-processing in an informative encyclopedia. The texture of the masonry and walls can be seen more accurately in Cathedral_of_Learning_inside_entrance.jpg. kreeningsons
Is there any chance a Pitt student or anyone else local could get a few new images for these nationality rooms? These are all copyrighted images and should be easily replaced - admission to most of these rooms is free. Remember that copyrighted images really should only be used if there's no way to find an alternative image. I don't think that's the case here. -- Midnightdreary 04:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
How about the picture of the 1960 World Series from the top of the building? Deigo 04:59, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Pretty sure I can get a source for this, actually, but it'll require me getting documents back from someone who has them and is currently in Denver... give me a week. Lyellin ( talk) 03:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Has anyone else heard of these stories? When I attended Pitt in the 90s, a member of the janitorial staff related stories to me about how the room was haunted, frightening some of the staff to the extent they refused to clean it. I have no first hand knowledge of this and do not know of any published references supporting this. CrazyPaco ( talk) 04:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
I've heard the outdoor night time lights of the cathedral have some relationship to whether the football team won or lost. Can anyone verify if this is true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.57.249 ( talk) 18:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/9064342 mentions this.
I think they are meant to be Panther "Gold" not "yellow" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.57.249 ( talk) 18:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
The main article on University of Pittsburgh mentions it: "Victory Lights is a tradition where golden flood lights illuminate the top of the Cathedral of Learning after every home football victory.[104][121][122]" I think that this should obviously be included in the Cathedral's article because it is an interesting fact about the Cathedral that is useful to the public. —Preceding
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The article currently has 13 links in the External Links section. I believe that they ought to be trimmed down to the essentials (perhaps 3–5 links) per the suggestions and policies under WP:EL and WP:NOTLINK. — Notyourbroom ( talk) 01:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Originally in the lead, the number of windows in the Cathedral of Learning was listed at 2,529. This was likely originally sourced on the Pitt virtual tour description of the Cathedral of Learning (see here). A recent IP edit changed that number to 2,128. The IP did not source the change, but provided this is the edit summary: "per professor saaty", apparently in reference to Pitt professor Thomas L. Saaty. How Saaty might have knowledge of the correct window number is unknown. For the time being, or until the exact number of windows can be verified, I have changed the lead to read a less exacting "contains more than 2,000 rooms and windows" to avoid possible inaccuracy. CrazyPaco ( talk) 23:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
I've done major reference cleanups on Cornell University here and Fred Rogers here. I think this article will be my next focus, but not tonight. — Bill Price( notyourbroom) 04:13, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
The article previously has had a formal dedication date for the Cathedral on June 7, 1937. Hholt01's edit brought my attention to it because I wanted to add it to the Pitt Portal "on this day" feature. However, I wanted to verify the date, which led me to the problem. I went back through Google newspaper archives and did an extensive search of Pitt's on-line Documenting Pitt digital archive. What I found was ambiguous, and conflicting. Certainly, formal dedication ceremonies were held from June 1st through June 8th of 1937. This corresponded not only with Pitt's commencement that year, but also with sesquicentennial celebrations that were capped by these "dedication ceremonies". There was a formal installation of a corner stone in the Commons Room on June 4th. That is certain. Some articles refer to that as the Cathedral dedication, other to it as the Commons Room dedication. What happened on June 7 was a formal graduate and faculty banquet celebrating the sesquicentennial that took place in the Commons Room: apparently the first such banquet to be held there. In a few places, this is mentioned as a dedication ceremony for the Cathedral. However, mention of if being a dedication ceremony is missing from several key articles where you'd expect such a mention, e.g. the alumni magazines that covered the event, a timeline in Alberts' history. Because the exact date of an official dedication day is somewhat ambiguous at this time, I removed mention of the 7th as the precise day, so that it just reads June, 1937. If anyone has a more definitive source, please post it here. CrazyPaco ( talk) 19:22, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
As of the 28 December edit, it says "Cathedral of Leaning" in several locations. Please correct. 71.60.84.89 ( talk) 08:42, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
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