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While this article was still a subpage of my user space for development purposes, and before it was moved to the mainspace, I privately contacted Cassandra Fairbanks off-wiki and asked her
to upload to
Wikimedia Commons a photo of herself to which she owned the right to assign for use on Wikipedia. I did so because I believe a picture greatly enhances the appearance of any
BLP. She replied, "Please don’t put me on Wikipedia." It is therefore accurate to say that this biography was published over the objection of the subject. I promise to have no further contact off-wiki with Cassandra Fairbanks, whom I personally do not know and with whom I previously had no interaction online.
NedFausa (
talk) 19:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)reply
@NedFausa you're clearly compromised. if you weren't, this article would contain the truth about Fairbanks.
185.150.170.2 (
talk) 20:40, 1 January 2023 (UTC)reply
The Gateway Pundit was
deprecated in 2019 when Wikipedia editors reached consensus that the site is
unacceptable as a source. It is unreliable for statements of fact, and given to publishing hoax articles and reporting conspiracy theories as fact. External URLs matching that domain are
automatically reverted by
XLinkBot when
added to a page, including when
added in a reference, by
unregistered users and
accounts under seven days old. Consequently, it is either impossible or inadvisable to cite the journalistic contributions of Cassandra Fairbanks to The Gateway Pundit.
As a point of information (not a policy or guideline), Wikipedia acknowledges that a clear majority of sources deprecated for unreliability are politically conservative or right wing. Wikipedia describes this preponderance as "an artifact of a fundamental difference between conservative and non-conservative media, with conservative media clustered around a shared ideology while the rest of the media ecosystem has a 'reality-check dynamic' based on traditional journalistic fact-seeking."
I request consensus to restore this note, as it alone explains why we cannot cite the professional work of the subject of our
WP:BLP.
NedFausa (
talk) 15:40, 19 April 2020 (UTC)reply
I don't disagree with the content of the note, which reflects Wikipedia consensus on Gateway Pundit as a source. I just think it's not relevant to our readers, and doesn't belong in this article. It's advice for editors of Wikipedia, not part of a biography of Cassandra Fairbanks. See also
WP:Avoid self-references and
WP:No disclaimers.
Robofish (
talk) 15:45, 19 April 2020 (UTC)reply
There have been repeated attempts to remove the piped parameter "nationwide riots" from the wikilinked
George Floyd protests in the subsection Shift to right. This is disruptive because it falsely suggests that Cassandra Fairbanks criticized those protests. In fact,
the cited source states (twice) that she criticized the riots associated with the protests, not the protests themselves. Moreover, Wikipedia's page
George Floyd protests states in relevant part: While the majority of protests have been peaceful, demonstrations in some cities descended into riots, looting, and street skirmishes with police. … At least 200 cities in the U.S. had imposed curfews by June 3, while at least more than 30 states and Washington, D.C. activated over 62,000 National Guard personnel due to the mass unrest.
These misrepresentations have been made by four separate
WP:SPA IP accounts, with editing warring by two of them, as follows:
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This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or
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This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the
United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.
While this article was still a subpage of my user space for development purposes, and before it was moved to the mainspace, I privately contacted Cassandra Fairbanks off-wiki and asked her
to upload to
Wikimedia Commons a photo of herself to which she owned the right to assign for use on Wikipedia. I did so because I believe a picture greatly enhances the appearance of any
BLP. She replied, "Please don’t put me on Wikipedia." It is therefore accurate to say that this biography was published over the objection of the subject. I promise to have no further contact off-wiki with Cassandra Fairbanks, whom I personally do not know and with whom I previously had no interaction online.
NedFausa (
talk) 19:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)reply
@NedFausa you're clearly compromised. if you weren't, this article would contain the truth about Fairbanks.
185.150.170.2 (
talk) 20:40, 1 January 2023 (UTC)reply
The Gateway Pundit was
deprecated in 2019 when Wikipedia editors reached consensus that the site is
unacceptable as a source. It is unreliable for statements of fact, and given to publishing hoax articles and reporting conspiracy theories as fact. External URLs matching that domain are
automatically reverted by
XLinkBot when
added to a page, including when
added in a reference, by
unregistered users and
accounts under seven days old. Consequently, it is either impossible or inadvisable to cite the journalistic contributions of Cassandra Fairbanks to The Gateway Pundit.
As a point of information (not a policy or guideline), Wikipedia acknowledges that a clear majority of sources deprecated for unreliability are politically conservative or right wing. Wikipedia describes this preponderance as "an artifact of a fundamental difference between conservative and non-conservative media, with conservative media clustered around a shared ideology while the rest of the media ecosystem has a 'reality-check dynamic' based on traditional journalistic fact-seeking."
I request consensus to restore this note, as it alone explains why we cannot cite the professional work of the subject of our
WP:BLP.
NedFausa (
talk) 15:40, 19 April 2020 (UTC)reply
I don't disagree with the content of the note, which reflects Wikipedia consensus on Gateway Pundit as a source. I just think it's not relevant to our readers, and doesn't belong in this article. It's advice for editors of Wikipedia, not part of a biography of Cassandra Fairbanks. See also
WP:Avoid self-references and
WP:No disclaimers.
Robofish (
talk) 15:45, 19 April 2020 (UTC)reply
There have been repeated attempts to remove the piped parameter "nationwide riots" from the wikilinked
George Floyd protests in the subsection Shift to right. This is disruptive because it falsely suggests that Cassandra Fairbanks criticized those protests. In fact,
the cited source states (twice) that she criticized the riots associated with the protests, not the protests themselves. Moreover, Wikipedia's page
George Floyd protests states in relevant part: While the majority of protests have been peaceful, demonstrations in some cities descended into riots, looting, and street skirmishes with police. … At least 200 cities in the U.S. had imposed curfews by June 3, while at least more than 30 states and Washington, D.C. activated over 62,000 National Guard personnel due to the mass unrest.
These misrepresentations have been made by four separate
WP:SPA IP accounts, with editing warring by two of them, as follows: