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Does Cassandra Clare meet the criteria for notability? I had held off from creating an entry for her book/series because I did not think it met grounds for notability. Currently the sources cited are her own website and links to fanfiction which is attributed to a different spelling of her name (without making light of the name change).
At this point in time I don't believe this author merits an entry Nancy Vandal 06:17, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't know if she's notable in herself, but the controversy on LiveJournal and in the fanfic community surrounding Clare's plagiarism of novelist Pamela Dean in her Harry Potter fanfic might be notable. Although, honestly, this article probably belongs on AfD. 75.17.201.223 01:09, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Cassandra had a unicorn in his closet dead and when the police saw it she was nearly to take her own life — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.160.21.215 ( talk) 06:56, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
The consensus of the debate was keep, but there was also a suggestion to merge the the article. Editors are certainly free to come to a consensus about merging content. Cool Hand Luke 05:26, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
This whole article is pretty closely cribbed from:
Comments before I tag it as a copyvio? -- Jack Merridew 10:02, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Where's the mention of Draco Dormiens/Draco Sinister/Draco Veritas that we KNOW belongs in this article? The Draco Trilogy was largely responsible for a number of highly common portrayals of Draco, in addition to extremely popular methods of 'shipping him. I suggest working off of [ here ] in terms of information, and the actual text can be found here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.21.94 ( talk) 17:50, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
In my search for some sources to show notability, I found these interviews but I couldn't figure out how to work them into the article:
If someone else could weave them in, that would be great. -- KittyRainbow ( talk) 16:39, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing, City of Bones, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/City of Bones. Thank you. Jack Merridew 12:54, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
I've journeyed into Lexus Nexus to add more than a half-dozen relevant legal journal, newspaper, and book sources for these claims. Can we please put this to rest now? The last thing this article needs is a reliable host for CC's well-known fan fiction. How can this be accomplished? Infoaddict1 ( talk) 22:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
it seems that most authors' articles don't list every award/nomination. Some articles include a link to a separate "Awards earned by Author X" article, others, like JK Rowling only note a few awards within the article's text. For now, I'm going to remove all the nominations and leave the wins, and note that she has received numerous other nominations. If someone else would like to create the page "Awards and nominations of Cassandra Clare" they would be more than welcome to. Infoaddict1 ( talk) 22:25, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Right now we have an edit war occurring on this article, and I'd like to head this off before any sanctions need to be handed out. Reverting edits you disagree with as "vandalism" is factually incorrect and not productive, but any BLP concerns regarding controversial material must be addressed. At least one party has tried to bring this to the talk page, so maybe we can come up with a compromise. I've left a message with a few of the recent contributors to ask if they're interested in giving input as to how they'd like to settle this dispute. -- Atama 頭 06:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Are we talking primarily the differences between these two versions [1]? Active Banana ( talk) 14:28, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
( ←) I'll give my response to Infoaddict1's comments regarding sources above, please anyone feel free to weigh in as well.
2) We get really nitpicky with BLPs. Basically, if we say something, we really need to back it up. If Cassandra wants to sue Wikipedia or malign it in the press, Wikipedia can "shift the blame" to another publication of that other publication is solid. It has happened before. Perhaps we might be able to specifically mention that The Telegraph claims there were allegations of plagiarism, but that's still a grey area and with a BLP the rule is almost always better safe than sorry. Really, how important are these plagiarism claims to mention in the article? When we can't specify who made the accusation on what was a plagiarism of what, and what evidence backs that up, it's more like Wikipedia is spreading a rumor. I like The Telegraph as a source, with Cassandra herself acknowledging the low quality of some of her fan fiction, but using it as a source for plagiarism accusations is probably unwise.
3) Blogs are very rarely reliable sources, see WP:SPS. Blogs that are attached to a major publication, such as a blog for a newspaper, can be acceptable. Since blogs aren't generally subject to editorial oversight, they aren't suitable as references.
6) Uncontroversial information that is provided by the subject herself should be acceptable even from a self-published source.
8) See answer to 6.
11) See answer to 6.
16) Her personal web site is more appropriately listed in the External Links section, per WP:ELOFFICIAL, where it is currently located.
I need to look over the law journal cited in #15, it might be worth querying the reliable sources noticeboard for other opinions about it. -- Atama 頭 23:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
This article currently states that Ms. Clare is partly notable 'for writing Harry Potter fan fiction'; I'm going to remove this claim. Firstly, it's poorly sourced: the information in the source is trivial, and there isn't enough there to even verify that it's referring to the same Cassandra Clare, or just some Harry Potter fan who happens to have the same name as a published author. But even if it is the same person (and I'll WP:AGF that it is), it seems in no way relevant or significant enough to deserve mention in a Wikipedia biography, least of all in the lead. If anyone wants to re-insert this claim, they'd need to provide two things:
Robofish ( talk) 20:08, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
any chance any admins are still keeping an eye on this article? i agree with Robofish above that, whatever attributions there may be for the relationship of this author to the fanfiction author of the same name, i have no idea why "author writes some things online before being published" is notable enough to be part of the article. besides, the massive discussion above is, to me, a convincing argument for keeping this section out of the article -- the intricate details of online politics and scandal of interest, and indeed comprehensible, only to the people who were involved at the time, seems clearly to be cruft. i'm going to go out on a limb and say that the vast, vast, vast majority of readers of this article are here for information about the publishing career of this professional author, rather than some stuff that may (if the same person) have happened in an internet community a while back. admins? any thoughts? 76.118.3.91 ( talk) 04:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm wondering why Cassie's fanfic is not important enough to warrant a mention here, whereas EL James's fanfic was. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EL_James (Especially considering Cassie's fics were a lot more well known.) 108.15.50.162 ( talk) 10:55, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Aidan.ofFire ( talk) 21:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Speaking as a Random Average Wikipedia User, I came to this article because I wanted to find out if the published author Cassandra Clare was the same person as the noted fanfic author Cassandra Claire. Because the article made no mention of her fanfic, I would have assumed that they were different people if I hadn't decided to look at the talk page just in case. In other words, by not mentioning that she was a fanfic writer, this article is actively misleading. AJD ( talk) 13:58, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
I'm really disappointed that there is nothing in this article about Cassandra Clare's fanfiction plagiarizing past. I thought this was an encyclopedia - not a fanpage. I guess her lawyers are doing a pretty good job in removing evidence from the Intternet! Wormow ( talk) 00:18, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
In numerous cases the Infernal Devices series are called The Clockwork Angel, The Clockwork Prince, or The Clockwork Princess. This is wrong, but I can't edit them unfortunately. 174.84.238.186 ( talk) 02:00, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
I noticed that the copyright notices for the "Cassandra Clare" books are consistently by "Cassandra Claire":
The whois page for the domain name cassandraclare.com can be viewed here. That reports that the owner of the domain is Cassandra Claire, LLC but also "person: Cassandra Clare"
I've seen authors that use their legal or real name on copyright notices while writing under a pen name. The odds are that's what happened here. For example this news article says "Cassandra Claire , who now publishes her own popular young adult series called "The Mortal Instruments" under Cassandra Clare, wrote successful Harry Potter fanfiction titled "The Draco Trilogy," featuring Draco Malfoy." [4]
I see that earlier attempts to mention the name "Claire" in the article get reverted. [5]
The question here is if a news article such as the The Champaign-Urbana News-Gazette item I cited above is a sufficiently reliable source that we can include "(Formerly Cassandra Claire aka Cassie Claire)" in this article. -- Marc Kupper| talk 22:17, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
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Please change the titles of Ms Clare's upcoming untitled The Dark Artifices books to Prince of Shadows (book #2) and The Queen of Air and Darkness (book #3). Cassandra Clare herself has revealed these titles on her tumblr Thank you. Cat1987 ( talk) 14:04, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
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Change the information under the "The Bane Chronicles" heading from [ "Vampires, Scones and Edmund Herondale" "The Rise and Fall of the Hotel Dumort" "Saving Raphael Santiago" "What To Buy The Shadowhunter Who Has Everything (And Who You're Not Officially Dating Anyway)" ] to [ "What Really Happened in Peru"(April 2013) "The Runaway Queen"(May 2013) "Vampires, Scones and Edmund Herondale"(June 2013) "The Midnight Heir"(July 2013) The Rise of the Hotel Dumort"(August 2013) "Saving Raphael Santiago"(September 2013) "The Fall of the Hotel Dumort"October 2013) "The Course of True Love (and First Dates)"(November 2013) "What to Buy the Shadowhunter Who Has Everything: (And Who You're Not Officially Dating Anyway)"(December 2013) "The Last Stand of the New York Institute"(January 2014) ] Can Amazon be used as a source? This is one potential link ( http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st?keywords=the+bane+chronicles&qid=1375303897&rh=n%3A133140011%2Ck%3Athe+bane+chronicles&sort=daterank) This change would update the list, arrange it chronologically and include approximate dates. Without it, the list is incomplete and confusing. I would not abuse my account if given the chance to update this page myself. Turquise001998 ( talk) 21:34, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Not done: You should already be auto-confirmed and able to edit this semi-protected article. Thanks, Celestra ( talk) 04:36, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of plagiarism. There is proof that she's been banned from a fanfic sight in the past for this. They have the proof. Is wiki protecting her? Annah — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:558:1412:0:0:5EFE:A34:B58F ( talk) 16:59, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Seriously? No mention at all?
Turkeyphan
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Evidence? She has an entire exposé about it--and that's just the tip of the iceberg. Multiple independent fan wikis attest to her plagiarism (e.g. PPC wiki, Fan History, Fandom Wank Wiki), alongside a plethora of bloggers, and at least one online newspaper, the Daily Dot. And if you look really hard you can still find the Draco Trilogy being passed around on the web & verify for yourself.
Furthermore, she even got accused of plagiarism just before her movie premier recently (reported here and here) when an iconic line from the Hunger Games movie was found in one of her recently published ebooks.
I don't think any one's asking WP to take sides or anything, if that's what the problem is (at least, I'm not, anyway), but the plagiarism thing is a really big deal, arguably the main reason CC's at all famous, and it should be covered, fully & impartially. Not doing so not only confuses visitors (a significant proportion of which, probably even the majority, will come here looking to see what the score is on the issue), but also looks very bad on wikipedia, effectively acting as a lie by omission, and will only serve to undermine Wikipedia's credibility to the public. To quote the author of the ONTD article I linked:
"If you don’t believe me, go to her Wikipedia page regarding her plagiarism, her (former) friend, Heidi the lawyer, comes at her defense and gets Wiki to delete any mentions of plagiarism (that’s why her entry is locked from changes). Another incident of her friend Heidi coming in is the writer’s university message board. Every SINGLE time CC is criticized for plagiarism, she got her lawyer friend to threaten people into deleting any mention of CC and plagiarism."
And lo & behold, the plagiarism debacle is magically absent from the article.
Again, no one's asking that she be named and shamed, but the fact that she is embroiled in a plagiarism debate that has thus far spanned an entire decade needs to be addressed. The Talking Toaster ( talk) 18:14, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
I agree, why not even mention she's accused of plagiarism? [1] 37.250.21.144 ( talk) 20:11, 10 September 2013 (UTC) Caroline Levén
What about the Daily Dot news article, does that not count as a reliable source at least? And what about the material published by Cassandra Clare on her livejournal, and written by her in other places? Can that not be cited? The Talking Toaster ( talk) 17:02, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
I have 2 other third party sources detailing Clare's plagiarism, though I'm not sure if they meet the 'reliable' criteria.
An article in Carnegie Mellon University's student paper, by Satvika Neti: http://thetartan.org/2013/9/9/forum/instruments
A piece in Paper Droids, by Cristina Guarino: http://www.paperdroids.com/2013/09/16/cassiegate-cassandra-clares-alleged-plagarism-in-the-mortal-instruments/
Saintvlas22 ( talk) 18:51, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
This is utter crap. BLP requires a great deal more than than a single not-very-prominent blogger's comments and truckloads of online jealousy. Plagiarism in fan fiction and juvenalia is barely noteworthy at best, and these exaggerated claims (particularly the bizarre Zaentz-like insinuations of self-plagiarism as impropriety) don't belong in an encyclopedia. There are some angry adolescents of all ages who approach apoplexy because her book's been made into a successful film. Their spite doesn't belong here. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz ( talk) 01:55, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Online jealousy? What would 'they' be jealous of, her mediocre works of fiction, or her aggressive and bullying behavior? In any case, her online persona and reactions to the plagiarism, in addition to the plagiarism itself, has already been deemed notable. It's not malice - it's fact. Saintvlas22 ( talk) 08:32, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
The Daily Dot’s first and most important responsibility is accuracy. We make reasonable efforts to verify information by publication time and we disclose to readers transparently what we do and do not know to be a fact.
Individual employees will never manipulate the facts for any kind of personal relationship, and they will not put themselves in a position to profit, financially or otherwise, by their reporting.
The Talking Toaster ( talk) 03:08, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
P.S.: Also responding to this by Hulla:
"The level of malice directed at Clare is unfathomable by rational standards"
"note this piece, for example, characterizing the repetition of a three-word phrase from a movie (and hardly an original bit at that) as "plagiarism" "
The controversies section never discussed plagiarism in the movie, only the books and fanfic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Talking Toaster ( talk • contribs) 03:23, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
That is THE REASON she is known. When you Google her name, that's the first word that comes up. Why have such a bland, publicist-approved bio and not include the only reason she's notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.116.103.10 ( talk) 21:23, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
And does Slate count? http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2016/02/author_sherrilyn_kenyon_sues_cassandra_clare_for_copyright_infringement.html It has gotten to the point that this is actually being written about and yet even the current lawsuit is not mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Desertwillow ( talk • contribs) 00:34, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
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What about The Guardian? Does that count as a reliable source? These two citations, particularly the first, should establish that the accusations exist and are relevant enough to be mentioned by a prestigious mainstream newspaper
Relevant quote:
"Every celebrity has a hidden past and Clare's is just as dark and thrilling as the fan fiction she used to post online. As her online stories began to gain fame, people began to notice that her work contained several pop culture quotes and references-ones that weren't cited anywhere. Dipping casually into the scripts of shows such as Buffy the Vampire Slayer and other infamous fantasy series, and sprinkling then through her own work, Clare had written a hugely successful fan fiction series, and had landed herself with a number of plagiarism accusations. Plagued by these when trying to get The Mortal Instruments, she dropped the "i" in her pen name "Cassandra Claire" and deleted all traces of her work from the Internet. Clare was never formally charged, as plagiarism laws don't apply to fan fiction in the same way as they do to other fictional work, though her past life often comes back to haunt her, in the form of other writers and readers of her old work, bitter about how she's risen to fame despite her methods."
Relevant quote:
"Of course, with Clare steering the helm, we shouldn't be surprised – her dubious past involving plagiarism of the Harry Potter series, and sketchy fan fictions mean she's earned herself quite the reputation."
Db105 ( talk) 16:04, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, this is weird as heck - she's obviously plagiarized and there are reputable sources out there for it. Not sure why that isn't included on her page 47.186.222.141 ( talk) 17:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
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Please change clokwork princess from to be released to released on March 19, 2013. Dualdragoon ( talk) 21:52, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Clare announced on her tumblr that the new Trilogy will be called "The Last Hours". It is set after Clockwork Princess in 1903. One book is titled "Chain of Thorns" and will be published probably 2017. The other two books will be called "Chain of Gold" and "Chain of Iron". The order isn't clear. I can't edit the Wiki page so I wanted to ask if someone else can do that. Here are my sources:
http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/77422013165/walker-acquires-new-cassandra-clare-trilogy-the
http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/77823512422/tlh-tid-tmi (Section with the timeline)
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Add to Bibliography
Tales From The Shadowhunter Academy Serial [2] -Welcome to Shadowhunter Academy (February 17 2015) -The Lost Herondale (March 17 2015) -The Whitechapel Fiend (April 21 2015) -Nothing but Shadows (May 19 2015) -The Evil We Love (June 16 2015) -Pale Kings and Princes (July 21 2015) -Bitter of Tongue (August 18 2015) -The Fiery Trial (September 15 2015) -Born to Endless Night (October 20 2015) -Angels Twice Descending (November 17 2015)
The Dark Artifices [3] -Lady Midnight (2015) -The Prince Of Shadows (?) -The Queen Of Air And Darkness (?) It is the sequel to The Mortal Instruments, takes place 5 years after TMI. Goodbelle ( talk) 19:27, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Not done as WP:CRYSTAL - we normally wait for books to actually be published before adding them to a bibliography - sometimes they don't appear. - Arjayay ( talk) 17:21, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
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Please, could you guys add Cassandra's new series: The Last Hours, The Wicked Powers, Tales from the Shadowhunters' Academy and the Secret Treasons. Also, there are more books in the Magisterium Series. It should be something like this: The Last Hours: Chain of Thorns (unknown), Chain of Gold (unknown), Chain of Iron (unknown). [4] The Wicked Powers: Three books, unknown titles and release dates. [5] Tales from the Shadowhunter Academy (co-written with Sarah Rees Brennan, Maureen Johnson and Robin Wasserman): Welcome to Shadowhunter Academy (February 17 2015, Cassandra Clare and Sarah Rees Brennan), The Lost Herondale (March 17 2015, Cassandra Clare and Robin Wasserman), The Whitechapel Fiend (April 21 2015, Cassandra Clare and Maureen Johnson), Nothing but Shadows (May 19 2015, Cassandra Clare and Sarah Rees Brennan), The Evil We Love (June 16 2015, Cassandra Clare and Robin Wasserman), Pale Kings and Princes (July 21 2015, Cassandra Clare and Robin Wasserman), Bitter of Tongue (August 18 2015, Cassandra Clare and Sarah Rees Brennan), The Fiery Trial (September 15 2015, Cassandra Clare and Sarah Rees Brennan), Born to Endless Night (October 20 2015, Cassandra Clare and Sarah Rees Brennan), Angels Twice Descending (November 17 2015, Cassandra Clare and Robin Wasserman). [6] The Secret Treasons: The Secret Treasons is the graphic novel project telling the story of the early days of the Circle. It was co-written by Cassandra Clare and John Ney Rieber. The art will be done by Cassandra Jean, and will be published by Yen Press. [7] Magisterium Series: The Iron Trial (September 9 2014), The Copper Gauntlet (Semptember 2015), The Cosmos Blade (Semptember 2016), The Golden Boy (Semptember 2017) and The Enemy of Death (Semptember 2018). [8] WikiWiggle ( talk) 21:34, 8 December 2014 (UTC) WikiWiggle ( talk) 21:34, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
The links for CC's 2nd and 3rd Dark Artifices books both go to unrelated wiki pages. Also, the first book in the series isn't due to release until March 2016, but the wiki page has it listed for 2015
http://www.cassandraclare.com/my-writing/novels/the-dark-artifices/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Originalisme ( talk • contribs) 15:50, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Can a controversy section be created about the plagiarism thing? Clare has now been sued by author Sherrilyn Kenyon, alleging that Clare and up to 50 Does plagiarized Kenyon's Dark Hunter series, violated her trademarks and used deceptive marketing practices to fraudulently conflate the two series.
http://www.courtneymilan.com/cc-complaint/1-main.pdf
http://www.thebookseller.com/news/cassandra-clare-sued-copyright-infringement-322417
http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/02/08/copyright-clash-over-demon-fighting-stories.htm
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/10/cassandra-clare-shadowhunters-lawsuit
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Clare was written wrong in the fan fiction heading and Clare is currently writing another Shadowhunters story, the Last Hours Series
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Just a quick note on the the Magisterium Series: the titles' list is outdated; Book 4 of the series is called "The Silver Mask" and came out Oct 2017. (see https://www.amazon.com/Silver-Mask-Magisterium-Book/dp/0545522366/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519651206&sr=8-1&keywords=the+silver+mask) And according to the author's tumblr's page, Book 5 is titled "The Golden Tower" and coming out Sept 2018 ( http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/170912034174/books-schedule-books). Would be nice, if someone with edit rights could update that, thanks!
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this is something very small but on the very last sentence, it says she has been renewed for a second season of the Bang tan velvet ( talk) 19:38, 10 June 2018 (UTC)Netflix series but they actually released a third. so could you please update this. Thank you. Bang_tan_velvet Bang tan velvet ( talk) 19:38, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, the books listed under the Magisterium series have the wrong titles for book 4 and 5. Book 4 is The Silver Mask and book 5 is The Golden Tower https://www.goodreads.com/series/104048-magisterium https://www.cassandraclare.com/the-magisterium-series/ Jamieb25 ( talk) 13:33, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
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The word "respectively" is misused, suggesting that her mother is the professor and her father the author, when it's the other way around. This could be fixed by changing "Elizabeth and Richard Rumelt" to " Richard Rumelt and Elizabeth Rumelt".
I would also suggest changing "author" to "writer" regarding Elizabeth's profession in order to match the source more accurately. Not all writers are authors, and the article only says writer. Jadamgreen ( talk) 06:22, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
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Suggest the paragraph "In 2016, The Guardian reported that Clare was being sued by Sherrilyn Kenyon for 'wilfully copying' her novels.[13]" be amended to add "Kenyon's suit was amended to drop the copyright claims and the remaining dispute over branding and cover designs was settled for an undisclosed amount." with citation https://www.vulture.com/2019/06/romance-author-sherrilyn-kenyon-said-her-husband-poisoned-her.html as the current state of the page is misleading. Or delete the line entirely. Thanks. Oryu~enwiki ( talk) 12:59, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
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Change “The Mortal Instruments series” section to “written works” or something similar with “The Mortal Instruments” being a sub section inside that area. MAJOR updates needed to her “written works” mentions also. She has 2 separate book series out, the most popular includes the currently mentioned titles but there are many more. Without extensive detail on plot or publishing her written works are as follows.
(Shadowhunters is the name of the entire series, each numbered title is the name of a series of books within the Shadowhunters series, each book title is listed below the individual series name)
Shadowhunters Series 1. The Mortal Instruments part 1
- City of Bones - City of Ashes - City of Glass
2. The Mortal Instruments part 2
- City of Fallen Angels - City of Lost Souls - City of Heavenly Fire
3. The Eldest Curses
- The Red Scrolls of Magic - The Lost Book of the White
4. The Infernal Devices
- Clockwork Angel - Clockwork Prince - Clockwork Princess
5. The Dark Artifices
- Lady Midnight - Lord of Shadows - Queen of Air and Darkness
6. The Last Hours
- Chain of Gold - Chain of Iron - Chain of Thorns
7. Books not part of a series
- The Bane Chronicles - The Shadowhunters Codex - Tales from the Shadowhunter Academy - Ghosts of the Shadow Market
8. Wicked Powers (announced but not yet published)
The Magisterium Series (co-author)
- The Iron Trial - The Copper Gauntlet - The Silver Mask - The Bronze Key - The Golden Tower
The Sword Catcher Series (announced but not yet published)
Website for reference. https://cassandraclare.com/coming-soon/ 2603:6010:440:56:D0B4:7C6D:75C2:E688 ( talk) 18:48, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Given the renewed interest (as evidenced in the link below) in CC's controversies regarding plagiarism due to her releasing the synopsis for her upcoming book, it seems as relevant as ever to include this information:
https://www.distractify.com/p/cassandra-clare-plagiarism
There have been many articles linked above that show that this is a topic that is substantially discussed and relevant to the author and her work. In July 2022, a short section was added regarding this topic and then subsequently removed just over a day later with the reasoning of it being "duplicative of the paragraph in the 'personal life" section'"
However, the personal life section does not mention anything other than the lawsuit despite these being separate but related instances. If an author was sued for copyright infringement when there are already existing accusations, these are obviously relevant and are worth mentioning.
I am confused how it has gotten to a point where this is being purposely removed from her Wikipedia page despite being something that is intertwined with her writing and reputation. It is not Wikipedia's job to whitewash information. I would argue it is actually Wikipedia's job to intentionally and purposely avoid whitewashing. This information needs to be included. If it is deliberately being removed over and over again, it becomes incredibly apparent that this article is no longer acting as a non-biased source of information but instead as a shield to protect her reputation, which as another user said, is not Wikipedia's intent or job. PoisonIvyTV ( talk) 23:46, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
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Does Cassandra Clare meet the criteria for notability? I had held off from creating an entry for her book/series because I did not think it met grounds for notability. Currently the sources cited are her own website and links to fanfiction which is attributed to a different spelling of her name (without making light of the name change).
At this point in time I don't believe this author merits an entry Nancy Vandal 06:17, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't know if she's notable in herself, but the controversy on LiveJournal and in the fanfic community surrounding Clare's plagiarism of novelist Pamela Dean in her Harry Potter fanfic might be notable. Although, honestly, this article probably belongs on AfD. 75.17.201.223 01:09, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Cassandra had a unicorn in his closet dead and when the police saw it she was nearly to take her own life — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.160.21.215 ( talk) 06:56, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
The consensus of the debate was keep, but there was also a suggestion to merge the the article. Editors are certainly free to come to a consensus about merging content. Cool Hand Luke 05:26, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
This whole article is pretty closely cribbed from:
Comments before I tag it as a copyvio? -- Jack Merridew 10:02, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Where's the mention of Draco Dormiens/Draco Sinister/Draco Veritas that we KNOW belongs in this article? The Draco Trilogy was largely responsible for a number of highly common portrayals of Draco, in addition to extremely popular methods of 'shipping him. I suggest working off of [ here ] in terms of information, and the actual text can be found here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.21.94 ( talk) 17:50, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
In my search for some sources to show notability, I found these interviews but I couldn't figure out how to work them into the article:
If someone else could weave them in, that would be great. -- KittyRainbow ( talk) 16:39, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing, City of Bones, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/City of Bones. Thank you. Jack Merridew 12:54, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
I've journeyed into Lexus Nexus to add more than a half-dozen relevant legal journal, newspaper, and book sources for these claims. Can we please put this to rest now? The last thing this article needs is a reliable host for CC's well-known fan fiction. How can this be accomplished? Infoaddict1 ( talk) 22:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
it seems that most authors' articles don't list every award/nomination. Some articles include a link to a separate "Awards earned by Author X" article, others, like JK Rowling only note a few awards within the article's text. For now, I'm going to remove all the nominations and leave the wins, and note that she has received numerous other nominations. If someone else would like to create the page "Awards and nominations of Cassandra Clare" they would be more than welcome to. Infoaddict1 ( talk) 22:25, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Right now we have an edit war occurring on this article, and I'd like to head this off before any sanctions need to be handed out. Reverting edits you disagree with as "vandalism" is factually incorrect and not productive, but any BLP concerns regarding controversial material must be addressed. At least one party has tried to bring this to the talk page, so maybe we can come up with a compromise. I've left a message with a few of the recent contributors to ask if they're interested in giving input as to how they'd like to settle this dispute. -- Atama 頭 06:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Are we talking primarily the differences between these two versions [1]? Active Banana ( talk) 14:28, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
( ←) I'll give my response to Infoaddict1's comments regarding sources above, please anyone feel free to weigh in as well.
2) We get really nitpicky with BLPs. Basically, if we say something, we really need to back it up. If Cassandra wants to sue Wikipedia or malign it in the press, Wikipedia can "shift the blame" to another publication of that other publication is solid. It has happened before. Perhaps we might be able to specifically mention that The Telegraph claims there were allegations of plagiarism, but that's still a grey area and with a BLP the rule is almost always better safe than sorry. Really, how important are these plagiarism claims to mention in the article? When we can't specify who made the accusation on what was a plagiarism of what, and what evidence backs that up, it's more like Wikipedia is spreading a rumor. I like The Telegraph as a source, with Cassandra herself acknowledging the low quality of some of her fan fiction, but using it as a source for plagiarism accusations is probably unwise.
3) Blogs are very rarely reliable sources, see WP:SPS. Blogs that are attached to a major publication, such as a blog for a newspaper, can be acceptable. Since blogs aren't generally subject to editorial oversight, they aren't suitable as references.
6) Uncontroversial information that is provided by the subject herself should be acceptable even from a self-published source.
8) See answer to 6.
11) See answer to 6.
16) Her personal web site is more appropriately listed in the External Links section, per WP:ELOFFICIAL, where it is currently located.
I need to look over the law journal cited in #15, it might be worth querying the reliable sources noticeboard for other opinions about it. -- Atama 頭 23:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
This article currently states that Ms. Clare is partly notable 'for writing Harry Potter fan fiction'; I'm going to remove this claim. Firstly, it's poorly sourced: the information in the source is trivial, and there isn't enough there to even verify that it's referring to the same Cassandra Clare, or just some Harry Potter fan who happens to have the same name as a published author. But even if it is the same person (and I'll WP:AGF that it is), it seems in no way relevant or significant enough to deserve mention in a Wikipedia biography, least of all in the lead. If anyone wants to re-insert this claim, they'd need to provide two things:
Robofish ( talk) 20:08, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
any chance any admins are still keeping an eye on this article? i agree with Robofish above that, whatever attributions there may be for the relationship of this author to the fanfiction author of the same name, i have no idea why "author writes some things online before being published" is notable enough to be part of the article. besides, the massive discussion above is, to me, a convincing argument for keeping this section out of the article -- the intricate details of online politics and scandal of interest, and indeed comprehensible, only to the people who were involved at the time, seems clearly to be cruft. i'm going to go out on a limb and say that the vast, vast, vast majority of readers of this article are here for information about the publishing career of this professional author, rather than some stuff that may (if the same person) have happened in an internet community a while back. admins? any thoughts? 76.118.3.91 ( talk) 04:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm wondering why Cassie's fanfic is not important enough to warrant a mention here, whereas EL James's fanfic was. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EL_James (Especially considering Cassie's fics were a lot more well known.) 108.15.50.162 ( talk) 10:55, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Aidan.ofFire ( talk) 21:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Speaking as a Random Average Wikipedia User, I came to this article because I wanted to find out if the published author Cassandra Clare was the same person as the noted fanfic author Cassandra Claire. Because the article made no mention of her fanfic, I would have assumed that they were different people if I hadn't decided to look at the talk page just in case. In other words, by not mentioning that she was a fanfic writer, this article is actively misleading. AJD ( talk) 13:58, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
I'm really disappointed that there is nothing in this article about Cassandra Clare's fanfiction plagiarizing past. I thought this was an encyclopedia - not a fanpage. I guess her lawyers are doing a pretty good job in removing evidence from the Intternet! Wormow ( talk) 00:18, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
In numerous cases the Infernal Devices series are called The Clockwork Angel, The Clockwork Prince, or The Clockwork Princess. This is wrong, but I can't edit them unfortunately. 174.84.238.186 ( talk) 02:00, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
I noticed that the copyright notices for the "Cassandra Clare" books are consistently by "Cassandra Claire":
The whois page for the domain name cassandraclare.com can be viewed here. That reports that the owner of the domain is Cassandra Claire, LLC but also "person: Cassandra Clare"
I've seen authors that use their legal or real name on copyright notices while writing under a pen name. The odds are that's what happened here. For example this news article says "Cassandra Claire , who now publishes her own popular young adult series called "The Mortal Instruments" under Cassandra Clare, wrote successful Harry Potter fanfiction titled "The Draco Trilogy," featuring Draco Malfoy." [4]
I see that earlier attempts to mention the name "Claire" in the article get reverted. [5]
The question here is if a news article such as the The Champaign-Urbana News-Gazette item I cited above is a sufficiently reliable source that we can include "(Formerly Cassandra Claire aka Cassie Claire)" in this article. -- Marc Kupper| talk 22:17, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
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Please change the titles of Ms Clare's upcoming untitled The Dark Artifices books to Prince of Shadows (book #2) and The Queen of Air and Darkness (book #3). Cassandra Clare herself has revealed these titles on her tumblr Thank you. Cat1987 ( talk) 14:04, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
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Change the information under the "The Bane Chronicles" heading from [ "Vampires, Scones and Edmund Herondale" "The Rise and Fall of the Hotel Dumort" "Saving Raphael Santiago" "What To Buy The Shadowhunter Who Has Everything (And Who You're Not Officially Dating Anyway)" ] to [ "What Really Happened in Peru"(April 2013) "The Runaway Queen"(May 2013) "Vampires, Scones and Edmund Herondale"(June 2013) "The Midnight Heir"(July 2013) The Rise of the Hotel Dumort"(August 2013) "Saving Raphael Santiago"(September 2013) "The Fall of the Hotel Dumort"October 2013) "The Course of True Love (and First Dates)"(November 2013) "What to Buy the Shadowhunter Who Has Everything: (And Who You're Not Officially Dating Anyway)"(December 2013) "The Last Stand of the New York Institute"(January 2014) ] Can Amazon be used as a source? This is one potential link ( http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st?keywords=the+bane+chronicles&qid=1375303897&rh=n%3A133140011%2Ck%3Athe+bane+chronicles&sort=daterank) This change would update the list, arrange it chronologically and include approximate dates. Without it, the list is incomplete and confusing. I would not abuse my account if given the chance to update this page myself. Turquise001998 ( talk) 21:34, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Not done: You should already be auto-confirmed and able to edit this semi-protected article. Thanks, Celestra ( talk) 04:36, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of plagiarism. There is proof that she's been banned from a fanfic sight in the past for this. They have the proof. Is wiki protecting her? Annah — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:558:1412:0:0:5EFE:A34:B58F ( talk) 16:59, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Seriously? No mention at all?
Turkeyphan
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Evidence? She has an entire exposé about it--and that's just the tip of the iceberg. Multiple independent fan wikis attest to her plagiarism (e.g. PPC wiki, Fan History, Fandom Wank Wiki), alongside a plethora of bloggers, and at least one online newspaper, the Daily Dot. And if you look really hard you can still find the Draco Trilogy being passed around on the web & verify for yourself.
Furthermore, she even got accused of plagiarism just before her movie premier recently (reported here and here) when an iconic line from the Hunger Games movie was found in one of her recently published ebooks.
I don't think any one's asking WP to take sides or anything, if that's what the problem is (at least, I'm not, anyway), but the plagiarism thing is a really big deal, arguably the main reason CC's at all famous, and it should be covered, fully & impartially. Not doing so not only confuses visitors (a significant proportion of which, probably even the majority, will come here looking to see what the score is on the issue), but also looks very bad on wikipedia, effectively acting as a lie by omission, and will only serve to undermine Wikipedia's credibility to the public. To quote the author of the ONTD article I linked:
"If you don’t believe me, go to her Wikipedia page regarding her plagiarism, her (former) friend, Heidi the lawyer, comes at her defense and gets Wiki to delete any mentions of plagiarism (that’s why her entry is locked from changes). Another incident of her friend Heidi coming in is the writer’s university message board. Every SINGLE time CC is criticized for plagiarism, she got her lawyer friend to threaten people into deleting any mention of CC and plagiarism."
And lo & behold, the plagiarism debacle is magically absent from the article.
Again, no one's asking that she be named and shamed, but the fact that she is embroiled in a plagiarism debate that has thus far spanned an entire decade needs to be addressed. The Talking Toaster ( talk) 18:14, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
I agree, why not even mention she's accused of plagiarism? [1] 37.250.21.144 ( talk) 20:11, 10 September 2013 (UTC) Caroline Levén
What about the Daily Dot news article, does that not count as a reliable source at least? And what about the material published by Cassandra Clare on her livejournal, and written by her in other places? Can that not be cited? The Talking Toaster ( talk) 17:02, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
I have 2 other third party sources detailing Clare's plagiarism, though I'm not sure if they meet the 'reliable' criteria.
An article in Carnegie Mellon University's student paper, by Satvika Neti: http://thetartan.org/2013/9/9/forum/instruments
A piece in Paper Droids, by Cristina Guarino: http://www.paperdroids.com/2013/09/16/cassiegate-cassandra-clares-alleged-plagarism-in-the-mortal-instruments/
Saintvlas22 ( talk) 18:51, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
This is utter crap. BLP requires a great deal more than than a single not-very-prominent blogger's comments and truckloads of online jealousy. Plagiarism in fan fiction and juvenalia is barely noteworthy at best, and these exaggerated claims (particularly the bizarre Zaentz-like insinuations of self-plagiarism as impropriety) don't belong in an encyclopedia. There are some angry adolescents of all ages who approach apoplexy because her book's been made into a successful film. Their spite doesn't belong here. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz ( talk) 01:55, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Online jealousy? What would 'they' be jealous of, her mediocre works of fiction, or her aggressive and bullying behavior? In any case, her online persona and reactions to the plagiarism, in addition to the plagiarism itself, has already been deemed notable. It's not malice - it's fact. Saintvlas22 ( talk) 08:32, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
The Daily Dot’s first and most important responsibility is accuracy. We make reasonable efforts to verify information by publication time and we disclose to readers transparently what we do and do not know to be a fact.
Individual employees will never manipulate the facts for any kind of personal relationship, and they will not put themselves in a position to profit, financially or otherwise, by their reporting.
The Talking Toaster ( talk) 03:08, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
P.S.: Also responding to this by Hulla:
"The level of malice directed at Clare is unfathomable by rational standards"
"note this piece, for example, characterizing the repetition of a three-word phrase from a movie (and hardly an original bit at that) as "plagiarism" "
The controversies section never discussed plagiarism in the movie, only the books and fanfic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Talking Toaster ( talk • contribs) 03:23, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
That is THE REASON she is known. When you Google her name, that's the first word that comes up. Why have such a bland, publicist-approved bio and not include the only reason she's notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.116.103.10 ( talk) 21:23, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
And does Slate count? http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2016/02/author_sherrilyn_kenyon_sues_cassandra_clare_for_copyright_infringement.html It has gotten to the point that this is actually being written about and yet even the current lawsuit is not mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Desertwillow ( talk • contribs) 00:34, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
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What about The Guardian? Does that count as a reliable source? These two citations, particularly the first, should establish that the accusations exist and are relevant enough to be mentioned by a prestigious mainstream newspaper
Relevant quote:
"Every celebrity has a hidden past and Clare's is just as dark and thrilling as the fan fiction she used to post online. As her online stories began to gain fame, people began to notice that her work contained several pop culture quotes and references-ones that weren't cited anywhere. Dipping casually into the scripts of shows such as Buffy the Vampire Slayer and other infamous fantasy series, and sprinkling then through her own work, Clare had written a hugely successful fan fiction series, and had landed herself with a number of plagiarism accusations. Plagued by these when trying to get The Mortal Instruments, she dropped the "i" in her pen name "Cassandra Claire" and deleted all traces of her work from the Internet. Clare was never formally charged, as plagiarism laws don't apply to fan fiction in the same way as they do to other fictional work, though her past life often comes back to haunt her, in the form of other writers and readers of her old work, bitter about how she's risen to fame despite her methods."
Relevant quote:
"Of course, with Clare steering the helm, we shouldn't be surprised – her dubious past involving plagiarism of the Harry Potter series, and sketchy fan fictions mean she's earned herself quite the reputation."
Db105 ( talk) 16:04, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, this is weird as heck - she's obviously plagiarized and there are reputable sources out there for it. Not sure why that isn't included on her page 47.186.222.141 ( talk) 17:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
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Please change clokwork princess from to be released to released on March 19, 2013. Dualdragoon ( talk) 21:52, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Clare announced on her tumblr that the new Trilogy will be called "The Last Hours". It is set after Clockwork Princess in 1903. One book is titled "Chain of Thorns" and will be published probably 2017. The other two books will be called "Chain of Gold" and "Chain of Iron". The order isn't clear. I can't edit the Wiki page so I wanted to ask if someone else can do that. Here are my sources:
http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/77422013165/walker-acquires-new-cassandra-clare-trilogy-the
http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/77823512422/tlh-tid-tmi (Section with the timeline)
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Add to Bibliography
Tales From The Shadowhunter Academy Serial [2] -Welcome to Shadowhunter Academy (February 17 2015) -The Lost Herondale (March 17 2015) -The Whitechapel Fiend (April 21 2015) -Nothing but Shadows (May 19 2015) -The Evil We Love (June 16 2015) -Pale Kings and Princes (July 21 2015) -Bitter of Tongue (August 18 2015) -The Fiery Trial (September 15 2015) -Born to Endless Night (October 20 2015) -Angels Twice Descending (November 17 2015)
The Dark Artifices [3] -Lady Midnight (2015) -The Prince Of Shadows (?) -The Queen Of Air And Darkness (?) It is the sequel to The Mortal Instruments, takes place 5 years after TMI. Goodbelle ( talk) 19:27, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Not done as WP:CRYSTAL - we normally wait for books to actually be published before adding them to a bibliography - sometimes they don't appear. - Arjayay ( talk) 17:21, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
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Please, could you guys add Cassandra's new series: The Last Hours, The Wicked Powers, Tales from the Shadowhunters' Academy and the Secret Treasons. Also, there are more books in the Magisterium Series. It should be something like this: The Last Hours: Chain of Thorns (unknown), Chain of Gold (unknown), Chain of Iron (unknown). [4] The Wicked Powers: Three books, unknown titles and release dates. [5] Tales from the Shadowhunter Academy (co-written with Sarah Rees Brennan, Maureen Johnson and Robin Wasserman): Welcome to Shadowhunter Academy (February 17 2015, Cassandra Clare and Sarah Rees Brennan), The Lost Herondale (March 17 2015, Cassandra Clare and Robin Wasserman), The Whitechapel Fiend (April 21 2015, Cassandra Clare and Maureen Johnson), Nothing but Shadows (May 19 2015, Cassandra Clare and Sarah Rees Brennan), The Evil We Love (June 16 2015, Cassandra Clare and Robin Wasserman), Pale Kings and Princes (July 21 2015, Cassandra Clare and Robin Wasserman), Bitter of Tongue (August 18 2015, Cassandra Clare and Sarah Rees Brennan), The Fiery Trial (September 15 2015, Cassandra Clare and Sarah Rees Brennan), Born to Endless Night (October 20 2015, Cassandra Clare and Sarah Rees Brennan), Angels Twice Descending (November 17 2015, Cassandra Clare and Robin Wasserman). [6] The Secret Treasons: The Secret Treasons is the graphic novel project telling the story of the early days of the Circle. It was co-written by Cassandra Clare and John Ney Rieber. The art will be done by Cassandra Jean, and will be published by Yen Press. [7] Magisterium Series: The Iron Trial (September 9 2014), The Copper Gauntlet (Semptember 2015), The Cosmos Blade (Semptember 2016), The Golden Boy (Semptember 2017) and The Enemy of Death (Semptember 2018). [8] WikiWiggle ( talk) 21:34, 8 December 2014 (UTC) WikiWiggle ( talk) 21:34, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
The links for CC's 2nd and 3rd Dark Artifices books both go to unrelated wiki pages. Also, the first book in the series isn't due to release until March 2016, but the wiki page has it listed for 2015
http://www.cassandraclare.com/my-writing/novels/the-dark-artifices/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Originalisme ( talk • contribs) 15:50, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Can a controversy section be created about the plagiarism thing? Clare has now been sued by author Sherrilyn Kenyon, alleging that Clare and up to 50 Does plagiarized Kenyon's Dark Hunter series, violated her trademarks and used deceptive marketing practices to fraudulently conflate the two series.
http://www.courtneymilan.com/cc-complaint/1-main.pdf
http://www.thebookseller.com/news/cassandra-clare-sued-copyright-infringement-322417
http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/02/08/copyright-clash-over-demon-fighting-stories.htm
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/10/cassandra-clare-shadowhunters-lawsuit
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Clare was written wrong in the fan fiction heading and Clare is currently writing another Shadowhunters story, the Last Hours Series
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Just a quick note on the the Magisterium Series: the titles' list is outdated; Book 4 of the series is called "The Silver Mask" and came out Oct 2017. (see https://www.amazon.com/Silver-Mask-Magisterium-Book/dp/0545522366/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519651206&sr=8-1&keywords=the+silver+mask) And according to the author's tumblr's page, Book 5 is titled "The Golden Tower" and coming out Sept 2018 ( http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/170912034174/books-schedule-books). Would be nice, if someone with edit rights could update that, thanks!
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this is something very small but on the very last sentence, it says she has been renewed for a second season of the Bang tan velvet ( talk) 19:38, 10 June 2018 (UTC)Netflix series but they actually released a third. so could you please update this. Thank you. Bang_tan_velvet Bang tan velvet ( talk) 19:38, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, the books listed under the Magisterium series have the wrong titles for book 4 and 5. Book 4 is The Silver Mask and book 5 is The Golden Tower https://www.goodreads.com/series/104048-magisterium https://www.cassandraclare.com/the-magisterium-series/ Jamieb25 ( talk) 13:33, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
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The word "respectively" is misused, suggesting that her mother is the professor and her father the author, when it's the other way around. This could be fixed by changing "Elizabeth and Richard Rumelt" to " Richard Rumelt and Elizabeth Rumelt".
I would also suggest changing "author" to "writer" regarding Elizabeth's profession in order to match the source more accurately. Not all writers are authors, and the article only says writer. Jadamgreen ( talk) 06:22, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
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Suggest the paragraph "In 2016, The Guardian reported that Clare was being sued by Sherrilyn Kenyon for 'wilfully copying' her novels.[13]" be amended to add "Kenyon's suit was amended to drop the copyright claims and the remaining dispute over branding and cover designs was settled for an undisclosed amount." with citation https://www.vulture.com/2019/06/romance-author-sherrilyn-kenyon-said-her-husband-poisoned-her.html as the current state of the page is misleading. Or delete the line entirely. Thanks. Oryu~enwiki ( talk) 12:59, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
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Change “The Mortal Instruments series” section to “written works” or something similar with “The Mortal Instruments” being a sub section inside that area. MAJOR updates needed to her “written works” mentions also. She has 2 separate book series out, the most popular includes the currently mentioned titles but there are many more. Without extensive detail on plot or publishing her written works are as follows.
(Shadowhunters is the name of the entire series, each numbered title is the name of a series of books within the Shadowhunters series, each book title is listed below the individual series name)
Shadowhunters Series 1. The Mortal Instruments part 1
- City of Bones - City of Ashes - City of Glass
2. The Mortal Instruments part 2
- City of Fallen Angels - City of Lost Souls - City of Heavenly Fire
3. The Eldest Curses
- The Red Scrolls of Magic - The Lost Book of the White
4. The Infernal Devices
- Clockwork Angel - Clockwork Prince - Clockwork Princess
5. The Dark Artifices
- Lady Midnight - Lord of Shadows - Queen of Air and Darkness
6. The Last Hours
- Chain of Gold - Chain of Iron - Chain of Thorns
7. Books not part of a series
- The Bane Chronicles - The Shadowhunters Codex - Tales from the Shadowhunter Academy - Ghosts of the Shadow Market
8. Wicked Powers (announced but not yet published)
The Magisterium Series (co-author)
- The Iron Trial - The Copper Gauntlet - The Silver Mask - The Bronze Key - The Golden Tower
The Sword Catcher Series (announced but not yet published)
Website for reference. https://cassandraclare.com/coming-soon/ 2603:6010:440:56:D0B4:7C6D:75C2:E688 ( talk) 18:48, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Given the renewed interest (as evidenced in the link below) in CC's controversies regarding plagiarism due to her releasing the synopsis for her upcoming book, it seems as relevant as ever to include this information:
https://www.distractify.com/p/cassandra-clare-plagiarism
There have been many articles linked above that show that this is a topic that is substantially discussed and relevant to the author and her work. In July 2022, a short section was added regarding this topic and then subsequently removed just over a day later with the reasoning of it being "duplicative of the paragraph in the 'personal life" section'"
However, the personal life section does not mention anything other than the lawsuit despite these being separate but related instances. If an author was sued for copyright infringement when there are already existing accusations, these are obviously relevant and are worth mentioning.
I am confused how it has gotten to a point where this is being purposely removed from her Wikipedia page despite being something that is intertwined with her writing and reputation. It is not Wikipedia's job to whitewash information. I would argue it is actually Wikipedia's job to intentionally and purposely avoid whitewashing. This information needs to be included. If it is deliberately being removed over and over again, it becomes incredibly apparent that this article is no longer acting as a non-biased source of information but instead as a shield to protect her reputation, which as another user said, is not Wikipedia's intent or job. PoisonIvyTV ( talk) 23:46, 26 September 2023 (UTC)