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Most of the history section could easily be cut and pasted into an article on aircraft carriers. The section does not have sufficient information on the history and development of aircraft suited for carriers. -- Zeamays ( talk) 01:19, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Since there has been no response, I deleted most of the carrier-centric material and added a statement regarding the necessity of specialized aircraft to operate from carriers. -- Zeamays ( talk) 18:04, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Shouldn't this article cover rotor craft as well? TeeTylerToe ( talk) 12:26, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfwJJD5jGXk check out the video above (after 2:00), c-130 can also land on aircraft carriers Orparask ( talk) 14:41, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Should the C-130 JATO experiments be mentioned? And per Dave, if you take that reasoning, any airplane that can take off or land in 1,000 ft would be listed in this article. Antonovs, pipers, etc. TeeTylerToe ( talk) 10:33, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
In the section Short Take-Off and Vertical Landing the author claims ski jumps are used because the Harrier can't hover with maximum load. This claim seems false.
The Rolls-Royce Pegasus engine requires water injection to provide enough thrust to hover a fully loaded Harrier aircraft. (See Water Injection.) The Hawker Siddeley Harrier aircraft only carries enough water for 90 seconds of hovering. This very short endurance seems to be the reason for the ski jump take off. Taking off vertically and accelerating to level flight from hovering would use up most of the water. Then there would only be a little water left to use when landing. This means the pilot would only have one shot at landing the aircraft, leaving no other option than to eject after a single failed landing attempt. The claim that it can't hover fully loaded seems false. Student342 ( talk) 01:11, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
An additional reason would be damaging the flight deck. When landing on a carrier, the pilot always cuts the power to idle before touching the deck. According to a Harrier pilot I met at an air show, they can only take off vertically from a concrete surface. Any other surface would be damaged by the heat from the nozzles, if full vertical thrust was applied at ground level. Student342 ( talk) 01:34, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
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Most of the history section could easily be cut and pasted into an article on aircraft carriers. The section does not have sufficient information on the history and development of aircraft suited for carriers. -- Zeamays ( talk) 01:19, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Since there has been no response, I deleted most of the carrier-centric material and added a statement regarding the necessity of specialized aircraft to operate from carriers. -- Zeamays ( talk) 18:04, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Shouldn't this article cover rotor craft as well? TeeTylerToe ( talk) 12:26, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfwJJD5jGXk check out the video above (after 2:00), c-130 can also land on aircraft carriers Orparask ( talk) 14:41, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Should the C-130 JATO experiments be mentioned? And per Dave, if you take that reasoning, any airplane that can take off or land in 1,000 ft would be listed in this article. Antonovs, pipers, etc. TeeTylerToe ( talk) 10:33, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
In the section Short Take-Off and Vertical Landing the author claims ski jumps are used because the Harrier can't hover with maximum load. This claim seems false.
The Rolls-Royce Pegasus engine requires water injection to provide enough thrust to hover a fully loaded Harrier aircraft. (See Water Injection.) The Hawker Siddeley Harrier aircraft only carries enough water for 90 seconds of hovering. This very short endurance seems to be the reason for the ski jump take off. Taking off vertically and accelerating to level flight from hovering would use up most of the water. Then there would only be a little water left to use when landing. This means the pilot would only have one shot at landing the aircraft, leaving no other option than to eject after a single failed landing attempt. The claim that it can't hover fully loaded seems false. Student342 ( talk) 01:11, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
An additional reason would be damaging the flight deck. When landing on a carrier, the pilot always cuts the power to idle before touching the deck. According to a Harrier pilot I met at an air show, they can only take off vertically from a concrete surface. Any other surface would be damaged by the heat from the nozzles, if full vertical thrust was applied at ground level. Student342 ( talk) 01:34, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
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