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We'll move the discussion here, but frankly, the reason I object to the addition of columns is the fact that it will get cluttered later on. Hypothetically speaking, if one of the albums manages to go platnium in Australia, but just say, it doesn't in America, not only will there be a unnecessary addition of a column, but also, it will be cause major blank spaces. Blank spaces I don't think are allowed in tables, I don't know, I'll check with MOS. But I feel its gonna get all convuluded and messy. σмgнgσмg (talk) 11:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I think we should use a different notation, for example, "×".
Removed the "I Told You So" current chart position of #114. There is no such thing as a chart postion of #114 on a 100 song chart. A song that is on the Bubbling Under chart at #14 is not the same thing as chart position #114 because songs that fall off the Hot 100 could, in theory, be the next songs in line at 101, 102, 103, etc, even though they're not eligible for the Bubbling Under chart. Therefore, there is truly no way of knowing if a song really is #114 if it's not on the Hot 100. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.112.214.98 ( talk) 15:54, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
I have placed the US Billboard Hot 100 and 200 albums charts first per WP:Charts & Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies/style. -- Underneath-it-All ( talk) 18:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Recently some changes were made that do not make sense, [1], so I am starting a discussion here. According to the new changes "Inside Your Heaven" is no longer Carrie's first single. Discography singles do not usually have release dates listed on Wikipedia, so why would one section need release dates but not the other two. What exactly are "one-track albums" stated in the edit summary above. Also why would "Temporary Home" need to be in two different sections?
Furthermore, I think we need clear and distinct criteria for the single sections. What exactly is the difference between "The following singles were not released to any radio formats, but some were charted from unsolicited airplay." and "These songs were charted from unsolicited airplay and/or sales on Billboard charts." Since these changes have been challenged, I am going to revert back to the previous version. Aspects ( talk) 03:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
I have devided all Carrie's singles and songs into 3 groups.
Therefore, "Inside Your Heaven" would be put into the second category, even though the song is the first single in Carrie's career. Langdon ( talk) 05:58, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Now that Billboard has changed the methodology of Hot Country Songs to now include airplay and sales, and has created a new chart for the airplay only, Country Airplay, this airplay chart is a component chart of Hot Country Songs and should not be per WP:CHARTS. The column is confusing because the Country Airplay chart was just created and only "Blown Away" has charted on it, but since it already charted on the Hot Country Songs, it is not needed. Also the column links to Hot Country Songs, when it is not the same chart. There was previously a Mediabase reference, which made readers think the column is a Mediabase chart, which is incorrect. Finally Mediabase is generally not used on Wikipedia since there is not a database to verify the peak positions. Therefore I am going to remove the column with a mention in the edit summary to see this discussion, so hopefully a consensus can be formed. Aspects ( talk) 18:18, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
As seen at the discussion on WT:CHARTS, the industry itself seems to be putting precedence on the airplay-only chart (such as congratulating Lee Brice on a #1 on the Airplay chart). This does not seem to be at all a similar case to Hot 100 vs. Hot 100 Airplay. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 03:39, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
While there is nothing inherently "wrong" with the current layout of the singles section, I feel that splitting the singles table by decade (in this case, 2000s and 2010s) would benefit the readability and also reduce the number of non-charting em-dashses since no singles since "Before He Cheats" (2006) have charted at AC, and the Canada Country chart is only applicable to "Good Girl" (2012) and subsequent releases. In my experience, most artists with the volume of releases that Carrie does feature split tables in their discography (see Lady Antebellum discography, Blake Shelton discography, Jason Aldean discography). This would also avoid the Hot Country Songs / Country Airplay confusion that resulted in the merged columns not typical of other country music discographies.
Initially I had planned to open discussion here before making the change, but since there was no good way to direct users to this Talk page sub-section to have that discussion, I opted to
be bold and code the split section. If anyone has objections to the new format, please speak up here, but let's try to keep any back-and-forth that might emerge on this page and not make contradictory edits on the article. So... thoughts?
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There was too many genre-specific Billboard charts for each single. The tally was a total mess. For better viewing, I kept only the most significant country chart for country artists, the Country Airplay - as country artists and their labels focus totally on radio, the Hot 100 obviously and christian chart - as Underwood has released many singles to that format. Additionally, removed single sales figures - as most other artists' discography pages display only certifications (sales threshold). If one desires to see each single's chart performance and precise sales, they go to that single's page. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheHipHopRapping ( talk • contribs) 03:30, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
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We'll move the discussion here, but frankly, the reason I object to the addition of columns is the fact that it will get cluttered later on. Hypothetically speaking, if one of the albums manages to go platnium in Australia, but just say, it doesn't in America, not only will there be a unnecessary addition of a column, but also, it will be cause major blank spaces. Blank spaces I don't think are allowed in tables, I don't know, I'll check with MOS. But I feel its gonna get all convuluded and messy. σмgнgσмg (talk) 11:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I think we should use a different notation, for example, "×".
Removed the "I Told You So" current chart position of #114. There is no such thing as a chart postion of #114 on a 100 song chart. A song that is on the Bubbling Under chart at #14 is not the same thing as chart position #114 because songs that fall off the Hot 100 could, in theory, be the next songs in line at 101, 102, 103, etc, even though they're not eligible for the Bubbling Under chart. Therefore, there is truly no way of knowing if a song really is #114 if it's not on the Hot 100. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.112.214.98 ( talk) 15:54, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
I have placed the US Billboard Hot 100 and 200 albums charts first per WP:Charts & Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies/style. -- Underneath-it-All ( talk) 18:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Recently some changes were made that do not make sense, [1], so I am starting a discussion here. According to the new changes "Inside Your Heaven" is no longer Carrie's first single. Discography singles do not usually have release dates listed on Wikipedia, so why would one section need release dates but not the other two. What exactly are "one-track albums" stated in the edit summary above. Also why would "Temporary Home" need to be in two different sections?
Furthermore, I think we need clear and distinct criteria for the single sections. What exactly is the difference between "The following singles were not released to any radio formats, but some were charted from unsolicited airplay." and "These songs were charted from unsolicited airplay and/or sales on Billboard charts." Since these changes have been challenged, I am going to revert back to the previous version. Aspects ( talk) 03:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
I have devided all Carrie's singles and songs into 3 groups.
Therefore, "Inside Your Heaven" would be put into the second category, even though the song is the first single in Carrie's career. Langdon ( talk) 05:58, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Now that Billboard has changed the methodology of Hot Country Songs to now include airplay and sales, and has created a new chart for the airplay only, Country Airplay, this airplay chart is a component chart of Hot Country Songs and should not be per WP:CHARTS. The column is confusing because the Country Airplay chart was just created and only "Blown Away" has charted on it, but since it already charted on the Hot Country Songs, it is not needed. Also the column links to Hot Country Songs, when it is not the same chart. There was previously a Mediabase reference, which made readers think the column is a Mediabase chart, which is incorrect. Finally Mediabase is generally not used on Wikipedia since there is not a database to verify the peak positions. Therefore I am going to remove the column with a mention in the edit summary to see this discussion, so hopefully a consensus can be formed. Aspects ( talk) 18:18, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
As seen at the discussion on WT:CHARTS, the industry itself seems to be putting precedence on the airplay-only chart (such as congratulating Lee Brice on a #1 on the Airplay chart). This does not seem to be at all a similar case to Hot 100 vs. Hot 100 Airplay. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 03:39, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
While there is nothing inherently "wrong" with the current layout of the singles section, I feel that splitting the singles table by decade (in this case, 2000s and 2010s) would benefit the readability and also reduce the number of non-charting em-dashses since no singles since "Before He Cheats" (2006) have charted at AC, and the Canada Country chart is only applicable to "Good Girl" (2012) and subsequent releases. In my experience, most artists with the volume of releases that Carrie does feature split tables in their discography (see Lady Antebellum discography, Blake Shelton discography, Jason Aldean discography). This would also avoid the Hot Country Songs / Country Airplay confusion that resulted in the merged columns not typical of other country music discographies.
Initially I had planned to open discussion here before making the change, but since there was no good way to direct users to this Talk page sub-section to have that discussion, I opted to
be bold and code the split section. If anyone has objections to the new format, please speak up here, but let's try to keep any back-and-forth that might emerge on this page and not make contradictory edits on the article. So... thoughts?
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There was too many genre-specific Billboard charts for each single. The tally was a total mess. For better viewing, I kept only the most significant country chart for country artists, the Country Airplay - as country artists and their labels focus totally on radio, the Hot 100 obviously and christian chart - as Underwood has released many singles to that format. Additionally, removed single sales figures - as most other artists' discography pages display only certifications (sales threshold). If one desires to see each single's chart performance and precise sales, they go to that single's page. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheHipHopRapping ( talk • contribs) 03:30, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
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