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Added some material to this page -- please note the genealogical sources are contradictory, some assigning Caroline an extra pregnancy [1]. They tend to list William Augustus twice, once with only a death date. I have corrected this in the article.-- Marysunshine 05:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Her husband was not created Duke of Cambridge until 1706, and they were married in 1705. What was her title in the intervening year? It is not listed. TysK 06:19, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
What languages did Caroline speak? It would improve the article if her language abilities were included. As she was German born, one might assume some form of German and French which was customary at that time. What was her level of English?-- TGC55 ( talk) 07:16, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
-- Mike Marchmont ( talk) 14:01, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Just heard on BBC Radio 4 that Queen Caroline died due to medical maltreatment of an umbilical hernia. She'd developed the hernia after childbirth, and it had gone untreated until a loop of bowel protruded through the hernia (but still under the skin, no doubt). Today a doctor would push the bowel in and patch the hernia, but her physicians *cut* the protruding bowel. And repeated the procedure each day until she died (about 10 days).
Hence the verse from Alexander Pope:
Here lies, wrapt up in forty thousand towels, The only proof that Caroline had bowels. - Alexander Pope, Epitaph on Queen Caroline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.91.210 ( talk) 08:40, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
There were Julian/Gregorian changes around her time. Are her vital date given in the Julian or Gregorian calendar? -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 13:22, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
You know, I've never liked those instances where a male consort is indicated as the last person to hold the title of Queen consort! I don't think we should say "untitled" either, as he did have some titles, though not related to his position as consort.
I'd prefer using one of the below (or similar). DrKay ( talk) 18:54, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
I am in favour of the second. We do not list Madame de Maintenon as successor of Maria Theresa of Spain; George, while not married to the Queen morganatically, was in a position more similar to Madame de Maintenon's than to a queen consort's, since he held no title derived from his marriage to the Queen. Surtsicna ( talk) 19:08, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
By May of the following year, Caroline thought herself pregnant....
Had to smile when I read this. "Thinking oneself pregnant" sounds like mind over matter, or a miracle. Anyhow, the rest of the sentence shows that indeed she was pregnant. Nowadays I think most people would say "Caroline discovered she was pregnant." Sca ( talk) 14:10, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Why is this article titled "Caroline of Ansbach" when the first sentence of the article tells us that she is "Caroline of Brandenburg-Ansbach"? — Lowellian ( reply) 19:26, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
DrKay oops, sorry about ec. for me uncited sources are still sources, but change it back if you prefer, i also used the cite ODNB rather than citation. 198.24.31.112 ( talk) 20:23, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
She is the first Princess of Wales to go directly to being Queen Consort. Should this be mentioned somewhere? Robin S. Taylor ( talk) 12:26, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Just looking at the several recent edits, mainly to the second para in this article. There is clearly some confusion about the status of her father and that of the principality where she was born. In fact, Ansbach (or Brandenburg-Ansbach to give it its full name) was part of the Holy Roman Empire - not Prussia. Her father was John Frederick, the Margrave of Brandenburg-Ansbach. He died when Caroline was three. The Elector Frederick III of Brandenburg became Caroline's guardian and gave her a temporary home in Berlin. When Caroline was 11, her mother married Elector John George IV of Hanover, who became Caroline step-father.
Also, I don't think it's correct to refer to Caroline as a Margravine. Her mother was a Margravine before her first husband's death, and became an Electress after her second marriage. Caroline eventually became Electress of Hanover, but as a result of her marriage to George Augustus.
I hope the above might help with the aforementioned edits. My main source for this is Matthew Dennison's The First Iron Lady (Harper Collins). -- Mike Marchmont ( talk) 12:51, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
This article states that she was the first crowned queen consort since Anne of Denmark, but the article about Mary of Modena says that the latter was crowned too. Surtsicna ( talk) 11:00, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
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Added some material to this page -- please note the genealogical sources are contradictory, some assigning Caroline an extra pregnancy [1]. They tend to list William Augustus twice, once with only a death date. I have corrected this in the article.-- Marysunshine 05:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Her husband was not created Duke of Cambridge until 1706, and they were married in 1705. What was her title in the intervening year? It is not listed. TysK 06:19, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
What languages did Caroline speak? It would improve the article if her language abilities were included. As she was German born, one might assume some form of German and French which was customary at that time. What was her level of English?-- TGC55 ( talk) 07:16, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
-- Mike Marchmont ( talk) 14:01, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Just heard on BBC Radio 4 that Queen Caroline died due to medical maltreatment of an umbilical hernia. She'd developed the hernia after childbirth, and it had gone untreated until a loop of bowel protruded through the hernia (but still under the skin, no doubt). Today a doctor would push the bowel in and patch the hernia, but her physicians *cut* the protruding bowel. And repeated the procedure each day until she died (about 10 days).
Hence the verse from Alexander Pope:
Here lies, wrapt up in forty thousand towels, The only proof that Caroline had bowels. - Alexander Pope, Epitaph on Queen Caroline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.91.210 ( talk) 08:40, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
There were Julian/Gregorian changes around her time. Are her vital date given in the Julian or Gregorian calendar? -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 13:22, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
You know, I've never liked those instances where a male consort is indicated as the last person to hold the title of Queen consort! I don't think we should say "untitled" either, as he did have some titles, though not related to his position as consort.
I'd prefer using one of the below (or similar). DrKay ( talk) 18:54, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
I am in favour of the second. We do not list Madame de Maintenon as successor of Maria Theresa of Spain; George, while not married to the Queen morganatically, was in a position more similar to Madame de Maintenon's than to a queen consort's, since he held no title derived from his marriage to the Queen. Surtsicna ( talk) 19:08, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
By May of the following year, Caroline thought herself pregnant....
Had to smile when I read this. "Thinking oneself pregnant" sounds like mind over matter, or a miracle. Anyhow, the rest of the sentence shows that indeed she was pregnant. Nowadays I think most people would say "Caroline discovered she was pregnant." Sca ( talk) 14:10, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Why is this article titled "Caroline of Ansbach" when the first sentence of the article tells us that she is "Caroline of Brandenburg-Ansbach"? — Lowellian ( reply) 19:26, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
DrKay oops, sorry about ec. for me uncited sources are still sources, but change it back if you prefer, i also used the cite ODNB rather than citation. 198.24.31.112 ( talk) 20:23, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
She is the first Princess of Wales to go directly to being Queen Consort. Should this be mentioned somewhere? Robin S. Taylor ( talk) 12:26, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Just looking at the several recent edits, mainly to the second para in this article. There is clearly some confusion about the status of her father and that of the principality where she was born. In fact, Ansbach (or Brandenburg-Ansbach to give it its full name) was part of the Holy Roman Empire - not Prussia. Her father was John Frederick, the Margrave of Brandenburg-Ansbach. He died when Caroline was three. The Elector Frederick III of Brandenburg became Caroline's guardian and gave her a temporary home in Berlin. When Caroline was 11, her mother married Elector John George IV of Hanover, who became Caroline step-father.
Also, I don't think it's correct to refer to Caroline as a Margravine. Her mother was a Margravine before her first husband's death, and became an Electress after her second marriage. Caroline eventually became Electress of Hanover, but as a result of her marriage to George Augustus.
I hope the above might help with the aforementioned edits. My main source for this is Matthew Dennison's The First Iron Lady (Harper Collins). -- Mike Marchmont ( talk) 12:51, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
This article states that she was the first crowned queen consort since Anne of Denmark, but the article about Mary of Modena says that the latter was crowned too. Surtsicna ( talk) 11:00, 8 July 2021 (UTC)