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I don't have the time myself, but can't help but think to make this article more balanced someone should research/catalogue all the nonsense this so-called journalist has published and posted on social media and had to retract because it was made up. Blondielightning ( talk) 17:31, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
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May I suggest that due the amount of trolling of this page, that this page is protected. 159753 ( talk) 18:53, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
I see an IP editor reverted the edit by SalisburySyndrome that called her a conspiracy theorist, supported by (mostly) RS citations. It was the right response, but for the wrong reason. We should not use wp:wikivoice to call her a conspiracy theorist. Apart from the WP:BLP violation, the citations do not demonstrate a broad consensus across a broad spectrum of sources in support that contention. (Compare, for example, David Icke.) It is an opinion, must be described as such and attributed as such.
If something like this is to be included in the article, it needs to say something like "Conservative media such as The Daily Telegraph and The Spectator have described her as a "liberal conspiracy theorist". Or words to that effect. And it would be WP:UNDUE to put that in the lead. And the citations given need to actually support the claim made: at least one did not. -- John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 19:45, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
@ DanielRigal and Wojacks:, there is nothing to be gained by your mutual revert warring in main space. You need to resolve your differences here at the talk page. The Pulitzer nomination credits her with being party to the exposure so it seems to me that you need to come up with an agreed wording that recognises her contribution without implying exclusivity. -- John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 00:46, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Making a note here, as I had to revert a partial update by an IP editor and don't have time to properly update the content now.
In the last few hours sources ( The Guardian, Sky News, The Independent) have stated that Banks lost two of the three challenges in his appeal against the June 2022 High Court ruling. This will need to be worked into that section in a way that respects the prior content. Sideswipe9th ( talk) 20:16, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
In February 2023 the Court of Appeal rejected two of Banks’ legal challenges, but ruled on one issue that “publication of the Ted Talk after 29 April 2020 caused serious harm to the reputation of the claimant” and that damages for this should be assessed.
In February 2023 the Court of Appeal rejected two of Banks' three legal challenges. On the third challenge the court ruled that continuing publication of the April 2019 TED Talk, after the Electoral Commission published a report on 29 April 2020 that found no evidence of Banks breaking the law in relation to campaign donations, had caused serious harm to Banks' reputation. The Court ordered that damages should be assessed for the harm incurred between 29 April 2020 and the date of the High Court ruling in June 2022.It's a bit lengthier, doesn't have the quotation, but it adds a wikilink that clarifies what serious harm means in this context that we wouldn't be able to add in a wikilink, and has slightly more detail on the exact period in which a future court will assess damages owed to Banks. Citation wise, this would be cited to both The Guardian and Independent sources, with the later being necessary for the clarification as to the period for which damages will be assessed (ie April 2020-June 2022). Sideswipe9th ( talk) 21:56, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
I have made a start on broadening the scope of the article Public interest defence and rapidly hit the bottom of my (zero) expertise. Would anyone more familiar with the topic please contribute a section on journalism? -- 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 15:34, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
Sorry, not sure what to flag it with, but the cited article (citation #4) for the claim that Cadwalladr grew up in Merthyr Tydfil doesn't actually contain anything to support that claim, only that she grew up 12 miles away from Bridgend (which isn't a radius that includes Merthr Tydfil). 185.66.206.56 ( talk) 06:20, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
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I don't have the time myself, but can't help but think to make this article more balanced someone should research/catalogue all the nonsense this so-called journalist has published and posted on social media and had to retract because it was made up. Blondielightning ( talk) 17:31, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
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May I suggest that due the amount of trolling of this page, that this page is protected. 159753 ( talk) 18:53, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
I see an IP editor reverted the edit by SalisburySyndrome that called her a conspiracy theorist, supported by (mostly) RS citations. It was the right response, but for the wrong reason. We should not use wp:wikivoice to call her a conspiracy theorist. Apart from the WP:BLP violation, the citations do not demonstrate a broad consensus across a broad spectrum of sources in support that contention. (Compare, for example, David Icke.) It is an opinion, must be described as such and attributed as such.
If something like this is to be included in the article, it needs to say something like "Conservative media such as The Daily Telegraph and The Spectator have described her as a "liberal conspiracy theorist". Or words to that effect. And it would be WP:UNDUE to put that in the lead. And the citations given need to actually support the claim made: at least one did not. -- John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 19:45, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
@ DanielRigal and Wojacks:, there is nothing to be gained by your mutual revert warring in main space. You need to resolve your differences here at the talk page. The Pulitzer nomination credits her with being party to the exposure so it seems to me that you need to come up with an agreed wording that recognises her contribution without implying exclusivity. -- John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 00:46, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Making a note here, as I had to revert a partial update by an IP editor and don't have time to properly update the content now.
In the last few hours sources ( The Guardian, Sky News, The Independent) have stated that Banks lost two of the three challenges in his appeal against the June 2022 High Court ruling. This will need to be worked into that section in a way that respects the prior content. Sideswipe9th ( talk) 20:16, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
In February 2023 the Court of Appeal rejected two of Banks’ legal challenges, but ruled on one issue that “publication of the Ted Talk after 29 April 2020 caused serious harm to the reputation of the claimant” and that damages for this should be assessed.
In February 2023 the Court of Appeal rejected two of Banks' three legal challenges. On the third challenge the court ruled that continuing publication of the April 2019 TED Talk, after the Electoral Commission published a report on 29 April 2020 that found no evidence of Banks breaking the law in relation to campaign donations, had caused serious harm to Banks' reputation. The Court ordered that damages should be assessed for the harm incurred between 29 April 2020 and the date of the High Court ruling in June 2022.It's a bit lengthier, doesn't have the quotation, but it adds a wikilink that clarifies what serious harm means in this context that we wouldn't be able to add in a wikilink, and has slightly more detail on the exact period in which a future court will assess damages owed to Banks. Citation wise, this would be cited to both The Guardian and Independent sources, with the later being necessary for the clarification as to the period for which damages will be assessed (ie April 2020-June 2022). Sideswipe9th ( talk) 21:56, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
I have made a start on broadening the scope of the article Public interest defence and rapidly hit the bottom of my (zero) expertise. Would anyone more familiar with the topic please contribute a section on journalism? -- 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 15:34, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
Sorry, not sure what to flag it with, but the cited article (citation #4) for the claim that Cadwalladr grew up in Merthyr Tydfil doesn't actually contain anything to support that claim, only that she grew up 12 miles away from Bridgend (which isn't a radius that includes Merthr Tydfil). 185.66.206.56 ( talk) 06:20, 17 June 2024 (UTC)