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So is this Reneta Lawrence his new girlfriend for real? How come she's only crawled out the woodwork now? Can we negate she's a family member or friend of some form, or are we basing this purely on the tabloid media of Australia? It's odd he's asked his wife to divorce him 'for her sake' yet has another bird lined up. She's a stunner too. :P 211.30.71.59 08:46, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
What is the attraction to jailbird serial killers?
"Dr. I. Ron Ahnus later confirmed the only reason Williams survived the bullet was due to his excessive stomach pudding"... Come on... does "Dr Iron Anus" sound a little fishy to anyone? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.209.50.198 ( talk) 04:19, 4 March 2007 (UTC).
I tagged it as not citing references because the information does not include those references after the comment is made. Please feel free to cleanup and delete the tag when necessary. As this is an ongoing event, I have also tagged it as "current". Naysie 13:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I've cleaned up, to an extent, and updated the details of the trial including his sentence, which is referenced at the bottom. However if someone can possibly make the 'murders' into a chronological sequence in the article, and then another bit for the trial that would be appreciated. at the moment, though it's quite ok data, the article is one big chunk that needs sorting. Lucastheory 03:55, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I think there's way too many people watching a certain TV series that use it as their "credible" source to make edits... refer last couple of ones. Freestyle-69 ( talk) 22:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Could we use one of the photos on his facebook page here? Master z0b ( talk) 04:25, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Carl Williams has recently died (just been confirmed in Australia by Victoria Police).
I imagine there may be some vandalism and shaky information for a bit Pursey Talk | Contribs 04:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I temporarily removed:
I'm not sure if this needs to be mentioned here, unless it directly relates to William's activities, but others may disagree. Either way, though, it isn't a recent event any more - perhaps it would be better suited to a "Personal Life" section, it if was to be included? - Bilby ( talk) 04:50, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
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Can this site be semi protected against vandalism as that the death of Carl Williams will attract many vandals to this site? -- throttler ( talk) 06:25, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I've wiped mentions in the article of the murders of Lewis Moran and Mark Moran as there were no source linking Williams to the murders. I can't recall if he was linked to either murder, but that doesn't matter; the point is that a source is required. Williams' death has highlighted that this article really needed some work. -- Mkativerata ( talk) 06:11, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I fail to see the reasoning for linking the article of school fees for Williams' daughter paid by the Victorian Police to the death of Carl. This is a matter of coincidence and therefore has no relevance to the death of Carl so no need to include. If relevant to Carl Williams, choose another area to post the article in. -- throttler ( talk) 07:38, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I know this is about Williams, but it is surprising that there is NO mention of someone reported to be his best friend,(see refs) was extremely close to Williams' wife, and was supposedly Williams bodyguard and (possibly) his 'hitman'. Anytime you saw Williams, Veniamin was usually there. (at least on the TV News!) Surely there should be some mention of him?
-- 220.101.28.25 ( talk) 09:49, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Reported to have been buried in a "gold plated coffin" (at least they showed a gold coffin at the church) is that something that should be added? Certainly not all that common, in my POV. Roberta Williams arrived in a greatly stretched Hummer limousine. Also a bit unusual. No references for this, so far, but that is what was shown on the Sydney(Oz) TV news. Too trivial for addition? -- 220.101.28.25 ( talk) 03:09, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
This article notes "He was bludgeoned to death with an exercise bike handle by another inmate"
However the Matthew Charles Johnson page notes "Using a metal bar from the seat of an exercise bike, Johnson struck Williams on the head"
Do we know which it was, or whether the reporting on the method is conflicting? AnonsysL ( talk) 04:47, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
Dhakota Williams was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 7 August 2023 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Carl Williams (criminal). The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
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So is this Reneta Lawrence his new girlfriend for real? How come she's only crawled out the woodwork now? Can we negate she's a family member or friend of some form, or are we basing this purely on the tabloid media of Australia? It's odd he's asked his wife to divorce him 'for her sake' yet has another bird lined up. She's a stunner too. :P 211.30.71.59 08:46, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
What is the attraction to jailbird serial killers?
"Dr. I. Ron Ahnus later confirmed the only reason Williams survived the bullet was due to his excessive stomach pudding"... Come on... does "Dr Iron Anus" sound a little fishy to anyone? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.209.50.198 ( talk) 04:19, 4 March 2007 (UTC).
I tagged it as not citing references because the information does not include those references after the comment is made. Please feel free to cleanup and delete the tag when necessary. As this is an ongoing event, I have also tagged it as "current". Naysie 13:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I've cleaned up, to an extent, and updated the details of the trial including his sentence, which is referenced at the bottom. However if someone can possibly make the 'murders' into a chronological sequence in the article, and then another bit for the trial that would be appreciated. at the moment, though it's quite ok data, the article is one big chunk that needs sorting. Lucastheory 03:55, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I think there's way too many people watching a certain TV series that use it as their "credible" source to make edits... refer last couple of ones. Freestyle-69 ( talk) 22:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Could we use one of the photos on his facebook page here? Master z0b ( talk) 04:25, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Carl Williams has recently died (just been confirmed in Australia by Victoria Police).
I imagine there may be some vandalism and shaky information for a bit Pursey Talk | Contribs 04:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I temporarily removed:
I'm not sure if this needs to be mentioned here, unless it directly relates to William's activities, but others may disagree. Either way, though, it isn't a recent event any more - perhaps it would be better suited to a "Personal Life" section, it if was to be included? - Bilby ( talk) 04:50, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
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Can this site be semi protected against vandalism as that the death of Carl Williams will attract many vandals to this site? -- throttler ( talk) 06:25, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I've wiped mentions in the article of the murders of Lewis Moran and Mark Moran as there were no source linking Williams to the murders. I can't recall if he was linked to either murder, but that doesn't matter; the point is that a source is required. Williams' death has highlighted that this article really needed some work. -- Mkativerata ( talk) 06:11, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I fail to see the reasoning for linking the article of school fees for Williams' daughter paid by the Victorian Police to the death of Carl. This is a matter of coincidence and therefore has no relevance to the death of Carl so no need to include. If relevant to Carl Williams, choose another area to post the article in. -- throttler ( talk) 07:38, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I know this is about Williams, but it is surprising that there is NO mention of someone reported to be his best friend,(see refs) was extremely close to Williams' wife, and was supposedly Williams bodyguard and (possibly) his 'hitman'. Anytime you saw Williams, Veniamin was usually there. (at least on the TV News!) Surely there should be some mention of him?
-- 220.101.28.25 ( talk) 09:49, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Reported to have been buried in a "gold plated coffin" (at least they showed a gold coffin at the church) is that something that should be added? Certainly not all that common, in my POV. Roberta Williams arrived in a greatly stretched Hummer limousine. Also a bit unusual. No references for this, so far, but that is what was shown on the Sydney(Oz) TV news. Too trivial for addition? -- 220.101.28.25 ( talk) 03:09, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
This article notes "He was bludgeoned to death with an exercise bike handle by another inmate"
However the Matthew Charles Johnson page notes "Using a metal bar from the seat of an exercise bike, Johnson struck Williams on the head"
Do we know which it was, or whether the reporting on the method is conflicting? AnonsysL ( talk) 04:47, 22 July 2024 (UTC)