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I have argued against going into detail about the allegations against DeMaio by his former aide. However, there are some new developments today which I think should be added to the article, because they provide a kind of closure to several aspects of the story, while also hinting at a possible higher level of significance. Here is what I propose to add to the article. In the interest of calm and civility (since there is so much edit warring going on right now on political articles), I'm going to post it here first and seek some kind of consensus about what to say and how to say it. I do think we should decide quickly (say, within 24 hours) whether my suggested addition would be OK or how it should be modified - because people will be coming here looking for this information.
On October 20 the San Diego County District Attorney announced that her office would not be filing any charges against DeMaio regarding the sexual harassment allegations, and that they were not charging the former aide or anyone else with breaking into DeMaio's office. [1] At the same time it was revealed that the FBI is looking into some of the former aide's charges. [2]
-- MelanieN ( talk) 05:25, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
On October 20, 2014, the San Diego County District Attorney announced that her office would not be filing any charges against DeMaio regarding the sexual harassment allegations, and that the District Attorney's office would not be charging the former aide or anyone else with breaking into DeMaio's office. [3] At the same time, it was reported that the FBI is looking into claims from Bosnich that he received anonymous email threats after being fired from DeMaio's campaign. [4] [5]
I think we should add the sentence "At the same time, it was reported that the FBI is looking into various claims from the former aide, separate from his sexual harassment allegations against DeMaio." to the article, and I have yet to see a valid argument against doing so. (I'm changing "unrelated to" to "separate from"; the allegations aren't totally unrelated to the harassment charges but they aren't about them either.) This followup is clearly related to the other reporting. -- MelanieN ( talk) 14:39, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Should content about the Scott Peters campaign involvement regarding allegations against the campaign of the subject of this article be included?
-- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 04:41, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
A thick binder called the "campaign playbook" disappeared in that burglary. According to the search warrant, DeMaio campaign materials were handed over to Peters campaign manager MaryAnne Pintar during a meeting with Bosnich. The document goes on to say Pintar copied the documents and gave the copies to Peters, before handing the originals to San Diego Police, who were investigating the break-in.
But search warrants unsealed just last week say Bosnich is the one who gave the stolen campaign documents to DeMaio's opponent, U.S. Rep. Scott Peters.
On 5 June, Bosnich provided the Peters' campaign with DaMaio's campaign playbook, it was copied by Peters' campaign manager, the originals were then given to Peters whose campaign turned it over to police on 9 June; Peters later said "immediately turned over to the police."
I think you folks are getting ahead of the sources. I can't do a thorough search because of my limited Internet access right now. But the sources quoted here say that 1) a campaign playbook was missing from the office and 2) Bosnich gave campaign documents to the Peters campaign. They do not say that be gave them the playbook. And from what I remember reading back when I had better access, the documents that were cited as going from Bosnich to Peters' campaign to the police did not include the playbook. Just trying to get the facts straight; open to correction if this actually was reported. MelanieN ( talk) 10:35, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Is it necessary to include a single sentence paragraph of the subject's sexuality? Is categorization enough? Or perhaps it would be better to integrate it into existing content?-- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 03:02, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Today it was reported that the former campaign aide admitted he had faked the threatening emails he claimed he had received. I gave this announcement the one sentence I think it deserves. If anyone wants to add anything else, let's discuss it here first. -- MelanieN ( talk) 22:03, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
CRTGAMER ( talk · contribs) removed a quote from the subject of the article, which is verified to a reliable source. Just because a term might be considered offensive, is not grounds to remove the content, see WP:NOTCENSORED. Moreover, it is a direct quotation from the subject of the article, about how a false allegation of sexual assault by a gay republican was utilized to damage himself and his campaign for higher elected office.-- RightCowLeftCoast ( Moo) 00:53, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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I have argued against going into detail about the allegations against DeMaio by his former aide. However, there are some new developments today which I think should be added to the article, because they provide a kind of closure to several aspects of the story, while also hinting at a possible higher level of significance. Here is what I propose to add to the article. In the interest of calm and civility (since there is so much edit warring going on right now on political articles), I'm going to post it here first and seek some kind of consensus about what to say and how to say it. I do think we should decide quickly (say, within 24 hours) whether my suggested addition would be OK or how it should be modified - because people will be coming here looking for this information.
On October 20 the San Diego County District Attorney announced that her office would not be filing any charges against DeMaio regarding the sexual harassment allegations, and that they were not charging the former aide or anyone else with breaking into DeMaio's office. [1] At the same time it was revealed that the FBI is looking into some of the former aide's charges. [2]
-- MelanieN ( talk) 05:25, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
On October 20, 2014, the San Diego County District Attorney announced that her office would not be filing any charges against DeMaio regarding the sexual harassment allegations, and that the District Attorney's office would not be charging the former aide or anyone else with breaking into DeMaio's office. [3] At the same time, it was reported that the FBI is looking into claims from Bosnich that he received anonymous email threats after being fired from DeMaio's campaign. [4] [5]
I think we should add the sentence "At the same time, it was reported that the FBI is looking into various claims from the former aide, separate from his sexual harassment allegations against DeMaio." to the article, and I have yet to see a valid argument against doing so. (I'm changing "unrelated to" to "separate from"; the allegations aren't totally unrelated to the harassment charges but they aren't about them either.) This followup is clearly related to the other reporting. -- MelanieN ( talk) 14:39, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Should content about the Scott Peters campaign involvement regarding allegations against the campaign of the subject of this article be included?
-- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 04:41, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
A thick binder called the "campaign playbook" disappeared in that burglary. According to the search warrant, DeMaio campaign materials were handed over to Peters campaign manager MaryAnne Pintar during a meeting with Bosnich. The document goes on to say Pintar copied the documents and gave the copies to Peters, before handing the originals to San Diego Police, who were investigating the break-in.
But search warrants unsealed just last week say Bosnich is the one who gave the stolen campaign documents to DeMaio's opponent, U.S. Rep. Scott Peters.
On 5 June, Bosnich provided the Peters' campaign with DaMaio's campaign playbook, it was copied by Peters' campaign manager, the originals were then given to Peters whose campaign turned it over to police on 9 June; Peters later said "immediately turned over to the police."
I think you folks are getting ahead of the sources. I can't do a thorough search because of my limited Internet access right now. But the sources quoted here say that 1) a campaign playbook was missing from the office and 2) Bosnich gave campaign documents to the Peters campaign. They do not say that be gave them the playbook. And from what I remember reading back when I had better access, the documents that were cited as going from Bosnich to Peters' campaign to the police did not include the playbook. Just trying to get the facts straight; open to correction if this actually was reported. MelanieN ( talk) 10:35, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Is it necessary to include a single sentence paragraph of the subject's sexuality? Is categorization enough? Or perhaps it would be better to integrate it into existing content?-- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 03:02, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Today it was reported that the former campaign aide admitted he had faked the threatening emails he claimed he had received. I gave this announcement the one sentence I think it deserves. If anyone wants to add anything else, let's discuss it here first. -- MelanieN ( talk) 22:03, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
CRTGAMER ( talk · contribs) removed a quote from the subject of the article, which is verified to a reliable source. Just because a term might be considered offensive, is not grounds to remove the content, see WP:NOTCENSORED. Moreover, it is a direct quotation from the subject of the article, about how a false allegation of sexual assault by a gay republican was utilized to damage himself and his campaign for higher elected office.-- RightCowLeftCoast ( Moo) 00:53, 10 July 2019 (UTC)