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I wonder if counries other than the UK went millenium-mental and named anything built between 1995-2001 "millenium" something -- in which case, this page may be up for disambiguation at some point. I sat in wait for the the "millenium supermarket", "millenium flower pot", "millenium telephone box" and so forth. -- Tarquin 19:27 Sep 24, 2002 (UTC)
Only one I can think of is the Millennium Skytrain line in Vancouver. - user:Montrealais
I strongly disagree with moving this article from Millennium Stadium to Cardiff Arms Park. Despite the fact that one was built on the site of the other, except by ignorance the new stadium is never, to the best of my knowledge. referrred to as Cardiff Arms Park and it is misleading to treat them in the same article. Have separate linked articles if you like, but don't merge them like this! -- Arwel 13:47, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I visited Cardiff Arms Park in 1994 when I played rugby and toured through England and Wales. I recall that it was fondly referred to as 'God's Acre' by some. I was surprised there was no mention of that in this article. Was that not a common nick name used for the park? 68.194.209.63 ( talk) 18:22, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
I updated the attendance figures for Cardiff Blues home games, figures based on attendences for all games in season. the previous reference was to a homemade site and was incorrect and not updated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.10.45.219 ( talk) 14:57, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I have reverted the edit to delete the youtube link:-
Will you keep in mind that however much people think that the try against the barbarians is the best ever, there was a blatently obvious forward pass in it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.90.235.42 ( talk) 21:21, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Images of the stadium have been deleted twice now. I feel it is wrong to delete these free images. See WP:IMAGE RELEVANCE and in particular "Images must be relevant to the article that they appear in and be significantly and directly related to the article's topic. Because the Wikipedia project is in a position to offer multimedia learning to its audience, images are an important part of any article's presentation" Images of each stand in the stadium are very significant and important. They add to understanding and also are mentioned in the first paragraph in the section plus the gates to the Arms Park. Yes it could be possible to find these images in Commons, but that makes little sense. See also WP:GACR in The six good article criteria "6. Illustrated, if possible, by images...images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions."...Overall I feel it is wrong to delete images of the stadium when the article is about a stadium. SethWhales talk 22:51, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
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I'm a bit confused reading this article about what "Cardiff Park Arms" actually refers to, the whole complex or just the stadium immediately North of the Millennium Stadium. If the former then the article is mostly fine with maybe a slightly rewording of the first sentence needed, but if the latter each stadium really should have it's own article, especially as the stadium is smaller than the old National Stadium. Mn1548 ( talk) 10:48, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Unfortunately, an editor has split Cardiff Arms Park (similar to the last split above) with no discussion whatsoever. See Splitting an article - Create a discussion first. This discussion needs to take place first.
For the record: In the new article Cardiff Arms Park Cricket Ground starts off with Cardiff Arms Park Cricket Ground]] is a cricket ground... This 100% incorrect. The cricket ground has not existed since 1966, and even then it was never called Cardiff Arms Park Cricket Ground. Have a look at Titles of works - Capital_letters
The bowling green has never been called Cardiff Arms Park Bowling Green, see the Cardiff Athletic Bowls Club website ( https://www.cacbowls.uk/community/cardiff-athletic-bowls-club-15033/contact/) which states Cardiff Athletic Bowls Club, Cardiff Arms Park, Westgate Street, Cardiff. Not Cardiff Arms Park Bowling Green. Again have a look at Titles of works - Capital_letters
The rugby ground has never been called ' Cardiff Arms Park Stadium', it is simply called Cardiff Arms Park, see the Cardiff Rugby website ( https://www.cardiffrugby.wales/cardiff-arms-park/history) which states "Cardiff Arms Park is the home of Cardiff Rugby situated next to the Principality Stadium in the heart of the Welsh capital. The Arms Park has been used as a rugby ground since the 1870s, with a cricket ground also formerly situated to the north of the site." Again also see Titles of works - Capital_letters. SethWhales talk 17:17, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
My problem with splitting is that:
We must have consensus so that we can move forward I feel, but we had a similar type of discussion in July 2004 (above - Untitled) and in May 2021 (Article Split). If the Cardiff Arms Park article needs clarity then it is up to editors to do this as it is a Wiki. SethWhales talk 14:26, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
and
Cardiff Arms Park Stadium redirected into
Cardiff Arms Park (rugby ground)
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SethWhales talk 21:28, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
@ Mn1548: My overall preference is that Cardiff Arms Park is not split. The main problem for me in spitting is that it ends up with too many articles on the one subject. However, I think if a split is the consensus of the Wikipedia community, then there are two options to consider that may be acceptable to editors:
SethWhales talk 16:34, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
However, I go with:
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There are a bunch of sentences without citations. It's not on the good article criteria, but there are sandwiching issues with the images as well. Steelkamp ( talk) 10:45, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
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I wonder if counries other than the UK went millenium-mental and named anything built between 1995-2001 "millenium" something -- in which case, this page may be up for disambiguation at some point. I sat in wait for the the "millenium supermarket", "millenium flower pot", "millenium telephone box" and so forth. -- Tarquin 19:27 Sep 24, 2002 (UTC)
Only one I can think of is the Millennium Skytrain line in Vancouver. - user:Montrealais
I strongly disagree with moving this article from Millennium Stadium to Cardiff Arms Park. Despite the fact that one was built on the site of the other, except by ignorance the new stadium is never, to the best of my knowledge. referrred to as Cardiff Arms Park and it is misleading to treat them in the same article. Have separate linked articles if you like, but don't merge them like this! -- Arwel 13:47, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I visited Cardiff Arms Park in 1994 when I played rugby and toured through England and Wales. I recall that it was fondly referred to as 'God's Acre' by some. I was surprised there was no mention of that in this article. Was that not a common nick name used for the park? 68.194.209.63 ( talk) 18:22, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
I updated the attendance figures for Cardiff Blues home games, figures based on attendences for all games in season. the previous reference was to a homemade site and was incorrect and not updated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.10.45.219 ( talk) 14:57, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I have reverted the edit to delete the youtube link:-
Will you keep in mind that however much people think that the try against the barbarians is the best ever, there was a blatently obvious forward pass in it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.90.235.42 ( talk) 21:21, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Images of the stadium have been deleted twice now. I feel it is wrong to delete these free images. See WP:IMAGE RELEVANCE and in particular "Images must be relevant to the article that they appear in and be significantly and directly related to the article's topic. Because the Wikipedia project is in a position to offer multimedia learning to its audience, images are an important part of any article's presentation" Images of each stand in the stadium are very significant and important. They add to understanding and also are mentioned in the first paragraph in the section plus the gates to the Arms Park. Yes it could be possible to find these images in Commons, but that makes little sense. See also WP:GACR in The six good article criteria "6. Illustrated, if possible, by images...images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions."...Overall I feel it is wrong to delete images of the stadium when the article is about a stadium. SethWhales talk 22:51, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
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I'm a bit confused reading this article about what "Cardiff Park Arms" actually refers to, the whole complex or just the stadium immediately North of the Millennium Stadium. If the former then the article is mostly fine with maybe a slightly rewording of the first sentence needed, but if the latter each stadium really should have it's own article, especially as the stadium is smaller than the old National Stadium. Mn1548 ( talk) 10:48, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Unfortunately, an editor has split Cardiff Arms Park (similar to the last split above) with no discussion whatsoever. See Splitting an article - Create a discussion first. This discussion needs to take place first.
For the record: In the new article Cardiff Arms Park Cricket Ground starts off with Cardiff Arms Park Cricket Ground]] is a cricket ground... This 100% incorrect. The cricket ground has not existed since 1966, and even then it was never called Cardiff Arms Park Cricket Ground. Have a look at Titles of works - Capital_letters
The bowling green has never been called Cardiff Arms Park Bowling Green, see the Cardiff Athletic Bowls Club website ( https://www.cacbowls.uk/community/cardiff-athletic-bowls-club-15033/contact/) which states Cardiff Athletic Bowls Club, Cardiff Arms Park, Westgate Street, Cardiff. Not Cardiff Arms Park Bowling Green. Again have a look at Titles of works - Capital_letters
The rugby ground has never been called ' Cardiff Arms Park Stadium', it is simply called Cardiff Arms Park, see the Cardiff Rugby website ( https://www.cardiffrugby.wales/cardiff-arms-park/history) which states "Cardiff Arms Park is the home of Cardiff Rugby situated next to the Principality Stadium in the heart of the Welsh capital. The Arms Park has been used as a rugby ground since the 1870s, with a cricket ground also formerly situated to the north of the site." Again also see Titles of works - Capital_letters. SethWhales talk 17:17, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
My problem with splitting is that:
We must have consensus so that we can move forward I feel, but we had a similar type of discussion in July 2004 (above - Untitled) and in May 2021 (Article Split). If the Cardiff Arms Park article needs clarity then it is up to editors to do this as it is a Wiki. SethWhales talk 14:26, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
and
Cardiff Arms Park Stadium redirected into
Cardiff Arms Park (rugby ground)
Readable prose size | What to do |
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> 100 kB | Almost certainly should be divided |
> 60 kB | Probably should be divided (although the scope of a topic can sometimes justify the added reading material) |
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< 40 kB | Length alone does not justify division |
< 1 kB | If an article or list has remained this size for over a couple of months, consider combining it with a related page. Alternatively, the article could be expanded; see Wikipedia:Stub. |
SethWhales talk 21:28, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
@ Mn1548: My overall preference is that Cardiff Arms Park is not split. The main problem for me in spitting is that it ends up with too many articles on the one subject. However, I think if a split is the consensus of the Wikipedia community, then there are two options to consider that may be acceptable to editors:
SethWhales talk 16:34, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
However, I go with:
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There are a bunch of sentences without citations. It's not on the good article criteria, but there are sandwiching issues with the images as well. Steelkamp ( talk) 10:45, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:National Stadium, Cardiff which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 09:18, 26 February 2023 (UTC)