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Added a few more things. I don't think all of these need to necessarily be done before a GA nomination, though. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she|they|xe) 22:45, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
See [1]. I fail to see why we would send readers sneakily to Wikivoyage when the actual issue of the link, that Capri is a holiday destination, is explained at an internal enwiki page as well. Fram ( talk) 16:22, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
See WP:SISTER: "Sister project links should generally appear in the "External links" section, or where appropriate in citations. Two exceptions are links to Wiktionary and Wikisource that may be linked inline (e.g. to an unusual word or the text of a document being discussed)." As Wikivoyage is not included in the two exceptions, it follows the general rule. And certainly when an internal link can be given instead. Fram ( talk) 16:39, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
@ Fram and PhotogenicScientist: The RfD ended in a consensus to retarget the soft redirect, but said nothing about what to do to the internal link to that page, which would be beyond the scope of RfD. If an RfD ends in retargeting a redirect in a way that would make a specific backlink problematic, the solution is to bypass the backlink, which is what I did here. In all this, the only reason given to not link has been Fram's personal feeling that no one should ever link to Wikivoyage, which as discussed above runs contrary to guideline. A style guideline failing to exclude something in its non-exhaustive list of exceptions to a rule is not a prohibition, and can easily be settled by local consensus, which we have had here. Is there an argument why such a link is inappropriate in this context? Otherwise, I would again refer Fram to the option of an RfC to forbid inline links to Wikivoyage, as was done with Wikinews. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she|they|xe) 17:03, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
Capri-Sun is named after [[voy:Capri|Capri]]
would definitely be inappropriate, but Wikivoyage is a sister wiki about travel, and we're discussing people traveling to a place. If that's not a context that justifies an inline link, what ever would be? The Wikivoyage link directly elaborates on the claim made—that Capri is a popular tourism destination—in a way that the enwiki article does not. It's similar to a situation where one might link to the enwiki article on a book and then, when discussing some feature of its text, link to the enwikisource entry as well. --
Tamzin
cetacean needed (she|they|xe)
17:30, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
this is the current logo. Can someone please update it? ꧁ Zanahary꧂ 04:37, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
The logo is used exclusively on a blue background on packaging, shouldn't we also do that here? If they use a white background, they invert the color: https://www.capri-sun.com/assets/Legal-Files/English/2020_01_CSAG_GTC-of-Purchase-V2.pdf PhotographyEdits ( talk) 21:19, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
In the section 1991–present: Kraft Foods, the use of "former" and "latter" to distinguish how this would affect market share and marketing power for different corporate entities is difficult to follow. See Special:Permalink/1230841178.
My suggestion would be to go back to the way this is worded in Special:Permalink/1140351881. Fabrickator ( talk) 07:33, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Added a few more things. I don't think all of these need to necessarily be done before a GA nomination, though. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she|they|xe) 22:45, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
See [1]. I fail to see why we would send readers sneakily to Wikivoyage when the actual issue of the link, that Capri is a holiday destination, is explained at an internal enwiki page as well. Fram ( talk) 16:22, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
See WP:SISTER: "Sister project links should generally appear in the "External links" section, or where appropriate in citations. Two exceptions are links to Wiktionary and Wikisource that may be linked inline (e.g. to an unusual word or the text of a document being discussed)." As Wikivoyage is not included in the two exceptions, it follows the general rule. And certainly when an internal link can be given instead. Fram ( talk) 16:39, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
@ Fram and PhotogenicScientist: The RfD ended in a consensus to retarget the soft redirect, but said nothing about what to do to the internal link to that page, which would be beyond the scope of RfD. If an RfD ends in retargeting a redirect in a way that would make a specific backlink problematic, the solution is to bypass the backlink, which is what I did here. In all this, the only reason given to not link has been Fram's personal feeling that no one should ever link to Wikivoyage, which as discussed above runs contrary to guideline. A style guideline failing to exclude something in its non-exhaustive list of exceptions to a rule is not a prohibition, and can easily be settled by local consensus, which we have had here. Is there an argument why such a link is inappropriate in this context? Otherwise, I would again refer Fram to the option of an RfC to forbid inline links to Wikivoyage, as was done with Wikinews. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she|they|xe) 17:03, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
Capri-Sun is named after [[voy:Capri|Capri]]
would definitely be inappropriate, but Wikivoyage is a sister wiki about travel, and we're discussing people traveling to a place. If that's not a context that justifies an inline link, what ever would be? The Wikivoyage link directly elaborates on the claim made—that Capri is a popular tourism destination—in a way that the enwiki article does not. It's similar to a situation where one might link to the enwiki article on a book and then, when discussing some feature of its text, link to the enwikisource entry as well. --
Tamzin
cetacean needed (she|they|xe)
17:30, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
this is the current logo. Can someone please update it? ꧁ Zanahary꧂ 04:37, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
The logo is used exclusively on a blue background on packaging, shouldn't we also do that here? If they use a white background, they invert the color: https://www.capri-sun.com/assets/Legal-Files/English/2020_01_CSAG_GTC-of-Purchase-V2.pdf PhotographyEdits ( talk) 21:19, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
In the section 1991–present: Kraft Foods, the use of "former" and "latter" to distinguish how this would affect market share and marketing power for different corporate entities is difficult to follow. See Special:Permalink/1230841178.
My suggestion would be to go back to the way this is worded in Special:Permalink/1140351881. Fabrickator ( talk) 07:33, 27 June 2024 (UTC)