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Caramel Apples are more common than Candy apples in many parts of the U.S. and Canada where candy apples are simply unheard of, don't they deserve more than a line about "varieties"?
We could also consider that there is a world outside of America, and in the English speaking parts of this world, "toffee apple" is the most commonly used description for this type of confectionary. 15:54, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
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Candy/toffee apples and caramel apples are two different things and while it is a good idea to have a link to caramel apple from candy apple and vice versa, they are different and should remain separate. From an international perspective, half of my family lives in the U.S. and half in Canada. The Canadians all eat candy apples, while the Americans eat caramel apples...it's nearly impossible to find a candy apple where I live live in the States even though my grocer has more caramel apples than they know what to do with. Caramel apples are almost always covered in nuts along with a layer of caramel, whilst candy apples have no nuts and a candied coating. They're just different foods and should be different pages. After all, we make a distinction between a chardonnay and a sauvignon blanc. Having said that, if there were some generic term (not candy or caramel), then I MIGHT support a new/merge article which described different types of apples. Mgturn 01:33, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm american and where I live candy apples are a very prevalent part of our culture. Perhaps it is regional, but the name of this article--candy apple-- should stay the same. -- DavisJune ( talk) 17:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Having separate articles for these is silly.
The manufacture is partly different, but partly similar. For the eaters, they're the same sort of treat. For the producers, they have almost identical ingredients (e.g. you find them mostly at apple harvest time, and the coating is mostly sugar). In all ways they're either the same or very similar. Merge. Gronky ( talk) 18:40, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
So I'm confused. Is a British "toffee apple" the same as a candy apple or a caramel apple? It seems to me that it would be the same as the candy apple, but the caramel apple article says that "toffee apple" is another name for a caramel apple. The comments that I see here seem to indicate that my assumption is correct, but I'm wary of changing the article. Do Americans call caramel apples "toffee apples"? What is the difference between toffee and taffy? For the record, I am Canadian, and prefer candy apples. -- timc talk 15:38, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
This is a bit confused-- the quote itself ends "according to the Newark News of 1948" and then the reference gives two references-- 1948 and 1964. I am guessing the 1964 quote had an "On This Day" feature reprinting something from the 1948 one, or something like that? Anyway, need it be this confusing, why not just refer directly to the 1948 one?
SimonTrew ( talk) 19:12, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
The suggestion of the text here is that toffee apples are some kind of equivalent to candy apples. They are not, they are no more an equivalent than caramel apples which have their own article. The article Apple, mentions:
In recent years I've seen candy apples appear here in Ireland (toffee apples having been prevalent before) and they are entirely different in appearance, taste and consistency - apart from having the apple part in common. The article seems to be very much written from a US perspective, or from people who haven't experienced actual toffee apples. 78.137.128.232 ( talk) 17:28, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
"...about 300 degrees on a candy thermometer." I'm assuming this is Fahrenheit, yes? In the civilized world outside of the US and Liberia, we use Celsius. Since 300 Kelvin is room temperature, we can be pretty sure it's not that. Perhaps someone who knows for sure whether it's in Fahrenheit can clarify in the article? SmashTheState ( talk) 04:17, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
The following statement and cited source do not correspond as strongly as they could. The source does not contain any explicit statement about these festivals or their relation to the annual apple harvest, though the content and date of the source are suggestive. "These are a common treat at autumn festivals in Western culture in the Northern Hemisphere, such as Halloween and Guy Fawkes Night because these festivals fall in the wake of the annual apple harvest.[1]" Leifeinarson ( talk) 21:35, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
The weblink to http://www.thehistoryofhalloween.net/?page=2 is not working for me: anyone have alternative suggestions or fixes? Leifeinarson ( talk) 21:41, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
The source cited about candy apples in Japan does not seem to contain any reference to apples (or grapes or tangerines). Leifeinarson ( talk) 01:22, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Dear All, please see here a discussion on the inclusion of the "Apples" template on food products. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 12:29, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
I have no expertise on this topic and am thoroughly confused by the article. The article asserts that candy apples and caramel apples differ in the process by which they are made. How so? As I understand it, in both cases the apple is dipped in hot, molten candy, which remains in place as the apple cools. If there is a difference in process, please clarify it. Bill ( talk) 05:01, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
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Caramel Apples are more common than Candy apples in many parts of the U.S. and Canada where candy apples are simply unheard of, don't they deserve more than a line about "varieties"?
We could also consider that there is a world outside of America, and in the English speaking parts of this world, "toffee apple" is the most commonly used description for this type of confectionary. 15:54, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Copied from Talk:Candy Apple:
Candy/toffee apples and caramel apples are two different things and while it is a good idea to have a link to caramel apple from candy apple and vice versa, they are different and should remain separate. From an international perspective, half of my family lives in the U.S. and half in Canada. The Canadians all eat candy apples, while the Americans eat caramel apples...it's nearly impossible to find a candy apple where I live live in the States even though my grocer has more caramel apples than they know what to do with. Caramel apples are almost always covered in nuts along with a layer of caramel, whilst candy apples have no nuts and a candied coating. They're just different foods and should be different pages. After all, we make a distinction between a chardonnay and a sauvignon blanc. Having said that, if there were some generic term (not candy or caramel), then I MIGHT support a new/merge article which described different types of apples. Mgturn 01:33, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm american and where I live candy apples are a very prevalent part of our culture. Perhaps it is regional, but the name of this article--candy apple-- should stay the same. -- DavisJune ( talk) 17:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Having separate articles for these is silly.
The manufacture is partly different, but partly similar. For the eaters, they're the same sort of treat. For the producers, they have almost identical ingredients (e.g. you find them mostly at apple harvest time, and the coating is mostly sugar). In all ways they're either the same or very similar. Merge. Gronky ( talk) 18:40, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
So I'm confused. Is a British "toffee apple" the same as a candy apple or a caramel apple? It seems to me that it would be the same as the candy apple, but the caramel apple article says that "toffee apple" is another name for a caramel apple. The comments that I see here seem to indicate that my assumption is correct, but I'm wary of changing the article. Do Americans call caramel apples "toffee apples"? What is the difference between toffee and taffy? For the record, I am Canadian, and prefer candy apples. -- timc talk 15:38, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
This is a bit confused-- the quote itself ends "according to the Newark News of 1948" and then the reference gives two references-- 1948 and 1964. I am guessing the 1964 quote had an "On This Day" feature reprinting something from the 1948 one, or something like that? Anyway, need it be this confusing, why not just refer directly to the 1948 one?
SimonTrew ( talk) 19:12, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
The suggestion of the text here is that toffee apples are some kind of equivalent to candy apples. They are not, they are no more an equivalent than caramel apples which have their own article. The article Apple, mentions:
In recent years I've seen candy apples appear here in Ireland (toffee apples having been prevalent before) and they are entirely different in appearance, taste and consistency - apart from having the apple part in common. The article seems to be very much written from a US perspective, or from people who haven't experienced actual toffee apples. 78.137.128.232 ( talk) 17:28, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
"...about 300 degrees on a candy thermometer." I'm assuming this is Fahrenheit, yes? In the civilized world outside of the US and Liberia, we use Celsius. Since 300 Kelvin is room temperature, we can be pretty sure it's not that. Perhaps someone who knows for sure whether it's in Fahrenheit can clarify in the article? SmashTheState ( talk) 04:17, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
The following statement and cited source do not correspond as strongly as they could. The source does not contain any explicit statement about these festivals or their relation to the annual apple harvest, though the content and date of the source are suggestive. "These are a common treat at autumn festivals in Western culture in the Northern Hemisphere, such as Halloween and Guy Fawkes Night because these festivals fall in the wake of the annual apple harvest.[1]" Leifeinarson ( talk) 21:35, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
The weblink to http://www.thehistoryofhalloween.net/?page=2 is not working for me: anyone have alternative suggestions or fixes? Leifeinarson ( talk) 21:41, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
The source cited about candy apples in Japan does not seem to contain any reference to apples (or grapes or tangerines). Leifeinarson ( talk) 01:22, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Dear All, please see here a discussion on the inclusion of the "Apples" template on food products. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 12:29, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
I have no expertise on this topic and am thoroughly confused by the article. The article asserts that candy apples and caramel apples differ in the process by which they are made. How so? As I understand it, in both cases the apple is dipped in hot, molten candy, which remains in place as the apple cools. If there is a difference in process, please clarify it. Bill ( talk) 05:01, 31 October 2020 (UTC)