-
original
-
first change
-
cropped
-
215T
-
215T that's often labeled as a 415
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Canadair CL-215 article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
This article is written in Canadian English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, centre, travelled, realize, analyze) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
Daily pageviews of this article
A graph should have been displayed here but
graphs are temporarily disabled. Until they are enabled again, visit the interactive graph at
pageviews.wmcloud.org |
I don't understand the use of "purpose built" in the first sentence. Aren't all aircraft purpose built? HistoryBA 19:53, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
The CL-215 and CL-415 were designed from the start as firefighting aircraft. (Purpose built) for firefighting unlike some of the retardant bombers such as the P-3, P-2V, and S-2s to name a few. Those aircraft were designed for naval patrol missions and were later adapted for firefighting. Even the single engine air tankers (SEATs) were originally designed for crop dusting. Flyinfloats ( talk) 05:25, 11 April 2008 (UTC)flyinfloats
The Lead claims that the CL-215s nickname is "Superscooper", while the "Operational history" section claims the primary nickname is "Scoopers", and that the turboprop versions (CL-215T, CL-415) are known as "Super Scoopers". Given that both statements are unsourced, I'm more inclined to toss all the nicknames, rather than leave contradictory and unsourced statements in the text. - BillCJ 01:41, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
The CL-215, CL-215T and -415 have been marketed as "Superscoopers" by Bombardier in the United States. This information comes directly from Bombardier's Amphibious Division website: http://www.bombardier.com/index.jsp?id=3_0&lang=en&file=/en/3_0/3_3/3_3_0.html. Having flown CL-215s in the United States, they are commonly referred to as Scoopers or Tankers. Flyinfloats ( talk) 05:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)flyinfloats
Sources:
According to the image info, the plane in the pic's "Register Number" is UD13-16 / 43-16 (cn 1057), and the pic was take on May 15, 2005. The CL-215T's local designation is UD-13, while the 415's is UD-14. The first CL-415 entered Spanish service in 2006. Also note the full-length national fin-flash on the rudder, which is seen on the CL-215T on the SAF page, but not on the CL-415's page. These all lead me to conclude that the aircraft in the pic is in fact a CL-215T, not a CL-415. Please provide sources to counter this before trying to remove the pic again. Thanks. - BillCJ 19:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Portugal doesn't operate any Canadair. Like other firefighting planes, helicopters, those eventually operated by the country are leased seasonally every year off the national, international market. The only civilian planes permanently operated by the country are 6 Kamov Ka-32A11BC and 3 Eurocopter AS-350B3 Ecureuil (a fourth having been lost in operation), operated by EMA: http://www.ema-sa.pt/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=6&Itemid=23. 95.95.98.163 ( talk) 22:11, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
The original 215 had both engines rotating in the same direction rather than counter-rotating engines. This was to reduce maintenance costs I was told - fewer parts than with two slightly different engines. As a result, there were features to counteract the net angular momentum (such as some asymmetry in the empennage).
When the redesign was done to convert to turboprop, were the new engines counter-rotating or did they continue to use identical engines? The article mentions changes to the empennage for improved performance - was this part of it? 99.245.230.104 ( talk) 23:28, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
The Republic of Croatia (former member of Yugoslavia, which does not exist anymore), proudly uses Scooper. So you can remove Yugoslavia and put proper names of countries. Thanks!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.143.179.135 ( talk)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 5 external links on Canadair CL-215. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 15:30, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
As seen on the TV show “Ice Pilots” a company in South Korea purchased one Canadair CL-215 from Buffalo Airways. However I’m struggling to find any further information on this deal and whether it’s still in operation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.12.82.185 ( talk) 14:42, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Canadair CL-215 article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
This article is written in Canadian English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, centre, travelled, realize, analyze) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
Daily pageviews of this article
A graph should have been displayed here but
graphs are temporarily disabled. Until they are enabled again, visit the interactive graph at
pageviews.wmcloud.org |
I don't understand the use of "purpose built" in the first sentence. Aren't all aircraft purpose built? HistoryBA 19:53, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
The CL-215 and CL-415 were designed from the start as firefighting aircraft. (Purpose built) for firefighting unlike some of the retardant bombers such as the P-3, P-2V, and S-2s to name a few. Those aircraft were designed for naval patrol missions and were later adapted for firefighting. Even the single engine air tankers (SEATs) were originally designed for crop dusting. Flyinfloats ( talk) 05:25, 11 April 2008 (UTC)flyinfloats
The Lead claims that the CL-215s nickname is "Superscooper", while the "Operational history" section claims the primary nickname is "Scoopers", and that the turboprop versions (CL-215T, CL-415) are known as "Super Scoopers". Given that both statements are unsourced, I'm more inclined to toss all the nicknames, rather than leave contradictory and unsourced statements in the text. - BillCJ 01:41, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
The CL-215, CL-215T and -415 have been marketed as "Superscoopers" by Bombardier in the United States. This information comes directly from Bombardier's Amphibious Division website: http://www.bombardier.com/index.jsp?id=3_0&lang=en&file=/en/3_0/3_3/3_3_0.html. Having flown CL-215s in the United States, they are commonly referred to as Scoopers or Tankers. Flyinfloats ( talk) 05:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)flyinfloats
Sources:
According to the image info, the plane in the pic's "Register Number" is UD13-16 / 43-16 (cn 1057), and the pic was take on May 15, 2005. The CL-215T's local designation is UD-13, while the 415's is UD-14. The first CL-415 entered Spanish service in 2006. Also note the full-length national fin-flash on the rudder, which is seen on the CL-215T on the SAF page, but not on the CL-415's page. These all lead me to conclude that the aircraft in the pic is in fact a CL-215T, not a CL-415. Please provide sources to counter this before trying to remove the pic again. Thanks. - BillCJ 19:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Portugal doesn't operate any Canadair. Like other firefighting planes, helicopters, those eventually operated by the country are leased seasonally every year off the national, international market. The only civilian planes permanently operated by the country are 6 Kamov Ka-32A11BC and 3 Eurocopter AS-350B3 Ecureuil (a fourth having been lost in operation), operated by EMA: http://www.ema-sa.pt/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=6&Itemid=23. 95.95.98.163 ( talk) 22:11, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
The original 215 had both engines rotating in the same direction rather than counter-rotating engines. This was to reduce maintenance costs I was told - fewer parts than with two slightly different engines. As a result, there were features to counteract the net angular momentum (such as some asymmetry in the empennage).
When the redesign was done to convert to turboprop, were the new engines counter-rotating or did they continue to use identical engines? The article mentions changes to the empennage for improved performance - was this part of it? 99.245.230.104 ( talk) 23:28, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
The Republic of Croatia (former member of Yugoslavia, which does not exist anymore), proudly uses Scooper. So you can remove Yugoslavia and put proper names of countries. Thanks!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.143.179.135 ( talk)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 5 external links on Canadair CL-215. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 15:30, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
As seen on the TV show “Ice Pilots” a company in South Korea purchased one Canadair CL-215 from Buffalo Airways. However I’m struggling to find any further information on this deal and whether it’s still in operation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.12.82.185 ( talk) 14:42, 13 June 2019 (UTC)