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Isn't the dieresis over the e in Saëns supposed to indicate that it is to be pronounced as a separate vowel from the preceding one? ZFT ( talk) 21:05, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Actually, the correct pronunciation is not "sɛ̃sɑ̃s" but "sɛ̃sɑ̃." No self-respecting Frenchman would pronounce the final "s" (except in the case of elision). I had this conversation with a French lady (in the café of the Louvre, of all places) who was very surprised to hear that Americans almost universally pronounce the name incorrectly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.214.18.122 ( talk) 12:57, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
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Camille Saint-Saëns (9 October 1835 – 16 December 1921) was a French composer, organist, conductor and pianist of the Romantic era. He was a musical prodigy, making his concert debut at the age of ten, and was still performing nearly seven decades later, giving what he intended to be his farewell concert as a pianist in Paris in 1913. Saint-Saëns's retirement was soon in abeyance as a result of World War I, during which he gave many performances in France and elsewhere, raising money for war charities. In November 1921, he gave a recital before a large invited audience, where it was remarked that his playing was as vivid and precise as ever; but he died unexpectedly of a heart attack the following month while in Algiers. This photograph of Saint-Saëns by Pierre Petit was taken in 1900. Photograph credit: Pierre Petit; restored by Adam Cuerden
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During the brief but bloody Paris Commune that followed, his superior at the Madeleine, the Abbé Deguerry, was murdered by rebels; Saint-Saëns was fortunate to escape to temporary exile in England where he arrived in May 1871.
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Paris Commune assumed power on 18 March, and was bloodily suppressed on 28 May. Minor mistake? He likely arrived in March; the
Romance, Op. 37 is dated to 25 March 1871 on the autograph, and was written "during his period of exile in London".
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intforce ( talk) 19:41, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
@ Intforce: I renewed my reader's ticket at the BL today, and have booked a desk in one of the reading rooms for 23rd June. More on the above matter then, I hope. Tim riley talk 21:36, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Bonnerot is not much help. On pp. 61–62 he says:
Maddeningly, Bonnerot gives no date, but the trains stopped running to and from Paris on 3 April, to judge by press archives. If so, and if Saint-Saëns was indeed on the last train out of Paris, Jost is wrong that the Romance (dated March) was written in London. I am inclined to dodge the question of when CS-S left Paris, and redraw the relevant sentences to read:
What think you, Intforce? – Tim riley talk 14:44, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
This information was removed from the article: Composer/pianist Charlotte Tardieu performed works for two pianos with Saint-Saëns on several occasions ( https://www.sophie-drinker-institut.de/tardieu-de-malleville-charlotte). T. E. Meeks ( talk) 12:27, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
While trying to improve the National Anthem of Uruguay page (having been bowled over by the reminiscences of Rossini), I realized that Saint-Saëns is sometimes incorrectly credited as the composer of the music. Why? It turns out that during a visit he made to the country in 1916 he was commissioned to write a celebratory hymn (I'm not sure if it was ever completed) which could potentially have become the national anthem, but in reality didn't. Whereas this information seems to me highly relevant for the page I was editing, I'm agnostic as to whether it might [2] be appropriate here. Hence this post. In Freundschaft, 86.182.104.144 ( talk) 15:08, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
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Isn't the dieresis over the e in Saëns supposed to indicate that it is to be pronounced as a separate vowel from the preceding one? ZFT ( talk) 21:05, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Actually, the correct pronunciation is not "sɛ̃sɑ̃s" but "sɛ̃sɑ̃." No self-respecting Frenchman would pronounce the final "s" (except in the case of elision). I had this conversation with a French lady (in the café of the Louvre, of all places) who was very surprised to hear that Americans almost universally pronounce the name incorrectly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.214.18.122 ( talk) 12:57, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
Hello! This is to let editors know that the featured picture File:Camille Saint-Saëns in 1900 by Pierre Petit.jpg, which is used in this article, has been selected as the English Wikipedia's picture of the day (POTD) for December 16, 2020. A preview of the POTD is displayed below and can be edited at Template:POTD/2020-12-16. For the greater benefit of readers, any potential improvements or maintenance that could benefit the quality of this article should be done before its scheduled appearance on the Main Page. If you have any concerns, please place a message at Wikipedia talk:Picture of the day. Thank you! Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 11:59, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
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Camille Saint-Saëns (9 October 1835 – 16 December 1921) was a French composer, organist, conductor and pianist of the Romantic era. He was a musical prodigy, making his concert debut at the age of ten, and was still performing nearly seven decades later, giving what he intended to be his farewell concert as a pianist in Paris in 1913. Saint-Saëns's retirement was soon in abeyance as a result of World War I, during which he gave many performances in France and elsewhere, raising money for war charities. In November 1921, he gave a recital before a large invited audience, where it was remarked that his playing was as vivid and precise as ever; but he died unexpectedly of a heart attack the following month while in Algiers. This photograph of Saint-Saëns by Pierre Petit was taken in 1900. Photograph credit: Pierre Petit; restored by Adam Cuerden
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During the brief but bloody Paris Commune that followed, his superior at the Madeleine, the Abbé Deguerry, was murdered by rebels; Saint-Saëns was fortunate to escape to temporary exile in England where he arrived in May 1871.
The
Paris Commune assumed power on 18 March, and was bloodily suppressed on 28 May. Minor mistake? He likely arrived in March; the
Romance, Op. 37 is dated to 25 March 1871 on the autograph, and was written "during his period of exile in London".
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intforce ( talk) 19:41, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
@ Intforce: I renewed my reader's ticket at the BL today, and have booked a desk in one of the reading rooms for 23rd June. More on the above matter then, I hope. Tim riley talk 21:36, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Bonnerot is not much help. On pp. 61–62 he says:
Maddeningly, Bonnerot gives no date, but the trains stopped running to and from Paris on 3 April, to judge by press archives. If so, and if Saint-Saëns was indeed on the last train out of Paris, Jost is wrong that the Romance (dated March) was written in London. I am inclined to dodge the question of when CS-S left Paris, and redraw the relevant sentences to read:
What think you, Intforce? – Tim riley talk 14:44, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
This information was removed from the article: Composer/pianist Charlotte Tardieu performed works for two pianos with Saint-Saëns on several occasions ( https://www.sophie-drinker-institut.de/tardieu-de-malleville-charlotte). T. E. Meeks ( talk) 12:27, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
While trying to improve the National Anthem of Uruguay page (having been bowled over by the reminiscences of Rossini), I realized that Saint-Saëns is sometimes incorrectly credited as the composer of the music. Why? It turns out that during a visit he made to the country in 1916 he was commissioned to write a celebratory hymn (I'm not sure if it was ever completed) which could potentially have become the national anthem, but in reality didn't. Whereas this information seems to me highly relevant for the page I was editing, I'm agnostic as to whether it might [2] be appropriate here. Hence this post. In Freundschaft, 86.182.104.144 ( talk) 15:08, 30 November 2022 (UTC)