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Am I correct in thinking that the Bay Meadows service stops only when there's racing (or something else - I think they do car boot sales in the parking lot) on there? If so, we should say that. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 10:06, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I figure it would be a nice addition to put the station list into a table, and in there denote the different ticketing zones. It's been a couple of years since I rode it last, but then there were nice colour codes on the tickets. Caltrain's page shows the different zones, but not the colours. If memory serves, the SF zone was green, but I can't remember the others. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 12:09, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The red star which shows the express train stops works very nice on linux (in both konqueror and firefox) but not on windowsXP (firefox, opera, IE). I think the font (which is explicitly specified in the default wikipedia stylesheet) doesn't contain that star glyph. Might I respectfully suggest this indication be changed to EX or something like that. - Dave
I think the Connection Section should be merged into the Station Stop Section by indicating the connecting transit lines behind the station name. What do you guys think? Also, can someone add a picture of MP36PH-3C in its Baby Bullet consist? Thanks. -- Will74205 21:17, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Can anyone clarify the fair use status of the newly included map, Image:Caltrain system map1.gif? A similar BART map is listed as "unverified" and "unsure of copyright status": Image:Map500.gif. Other transit services, such as NJ Transit, Long Island Rail Road do not include maps, or have maps that were made for Wikipedia: Image:Amtrak_schematic.png Image:NYC subway map.png. Comments? -- ChrisRuvolo 22:23, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
With thanks to everybody, the Caltrain article is probably the most detailed when compare with articles for other commuter rail lines/agencies. But I think this article is getting a little too long. Should we try to pare it down and direct people who need more detailed information to Caltrain website, or leave the article as it is. Thanks for any comments. -- Will74205 09:25, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
As promised, here's a test version of my proposed new (free) Caltrain map. I'm very eager for others comments and suggestions for improvement. I'm using Inkscape, a pretty powerful tool, so it's not to late to make changes (although labourious things like changing lots of fonts isn't going to make me happy).
Differences between this version and the offical Caltrain map:
Design issues
Things I'm happy with, which I'm probably not going to change:
Things I'm not happy with, but don't know how to fix (ideas welcome):
Stuff I'd like others to verify
Comments below, please. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 15:57, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
If anyone has a source, I think it would be interesting to track the comings and goings of various stations. Paul Ave is new, isn't it, and San Antonio replaced Castro. Belmont and Millbrae are essentially new stations with old names too. With the deprecations Will74205 describes above, I think the article can give an insight into changes in the area - I guess there's an ongoing shift in commuting patterns, with emphasis moving away from the mid peninsula and into the south bay. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 23:33, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I am moving toward adding a "Historical Stations" section when Caltrain modified its schedule this August, although I still need to do more research. Of course, if someone who is more knowledagable adds this section before I do, that would be great. -- Will74205 20:41, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
I've updated the map on the article, as promised. I won't be on wikipedia for several months (heck, I didn't plan on being here this long) so can I ask a couple of favours:
Later. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 20:41, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think it would be a good idea to add a picture of the Baby Bullet trainset (MP36PH-3C + Bombardier Bi-Level Coaches) in the article. I like to take a picture of it then posted here but couldn't find the time, can someone post a Baby Bullet picture? Also, I noticed that in the Japanese part of Caltrain article there is a Baby Bullet trainset picture but I couldn't find a way to link to it. Does anyone know how? Thanks. -- Will74205 10:59, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'm about to produce a revised map, with the red-listed stations removed from it. I'll upload it tomorrow. Are we confident that these three stations will close, or have they had some kind of last-minute reprieve? -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 13:42, July 31, 2005 (UTC)
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We should also note that Image:IMG 4291.sized.jpg, which is the last image on the article, is also listed for deletion for the same reasons as ticketmachine.jpg. Neither image has source or licensing information. Is there someone in the area who can create new images to replace these two? Preferably with images that have level horizons? AdThanksVance. Slambo (Speak) 20:52, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
So what improvements we need to do if we want this article to receive an rating that is above B? And what makes BART article a GA rated article compare to this one? -- Will74205 05:24, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
I think Peninsula Corridor Joint Powers Board article should become a section in the Caltrain article, since it only manages Caltrain. Also, I have been trying to find the funding formula of Caltrain but without much success, can someone point me to an website or provide the info? Thanks. -- Will74205 08:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I think it would make the Caltrain article too long if we merge these two articles into the Caltrain article. However, a separate article about the history of Caltrain is worth considering. There we can add more detailed history than what is in the Caltrain main article. -- Will74205 21:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I reverted the recent edit because it was a direct copy/paste from http://www.caltrain.com/news_2006_07_31_high-speed_internet.html Slambo (Speak) 20:41, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
In an attempt at making editing of the Caltrain map more accessible to others, I have taken User:Finlay McWalter's Caltrain map source at commons:Image:Wfm caltrain.png/source and made it into a SVG file and uploaded it to commons.
I had to make some changes to the layout, since the Wikimedia renderer doesn't have the same fonts as used in the PNG map. I also shrunk the compass rose, as I thought it was unnecessarily large.
So, the previous time this map was updated was September 2005. Are there more changes to the map that are needed? Let me know. -- ChrisRuvolo ( t) 16:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone provide some info on the current status of Caltrain's two GP9s? Last I heard was that they are broken. -- Will74205 05:07, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
I heard that they have been "mothballed" and are up for sale. I have also heard that one may have a bent frame, which means for sure it will never run again. - Insomniac186
I was thinking we should have something written here about the wireless internet service, here are two useful sources [4], and [5], I haven't been able to find a good section for it though. -- JVittes 02:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I just made the following change to the article:
Since Downtown Extension requires tunneling and thus electrification, Caltrain also plans to electrify the whole system from San Francisco to Gilroy. This project has the potential to
decrease equipment maintenance costs, lessen impact of fuel price fluctuation,reduce noise, and give Caltrain a modern image that is comparable to the BART service.The recent diesel price volatility has lent this project more urgency. (Rising fuel costs have caused Caltrain to plan a fare increse to go into effect in April 2007.)Caltrain plans to complete electrification by 2025. [1]
Although technically correct, the existing text was misleading:
If anyone has comments about this change, please leave them here. Vectro 19:07, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
— Vectro 20:40, 9 November 2006 (UTC)The proposed caltrain electrification project would convert the entire caltrain system from the current diesel-electric locomotive power source to a fully electric rolling stock. Although the project has an estimated total cost of $600-865 million [2], some of these costs can be offset by savings of $1-2 million a year in fuel and other saved costs. Electrified vehicles require less maintenance, but electrification will increase required track maintenance by approximately the same dollar amount, at least initially. In addition to the San Francisco extension, electrification can reduce noise and improve service times. Caltrain plans to complete electrification by 2025 [3], since at least partial electrification is required for any downtown extension.
During the latest development, the electrification project was split into two phases, with first phase between San Fransicso and Tamien in San Jose, and second phase between Tamien and Gilroy. [4] The capital cost, excluding electric rolling stock, for the first phase is estimated at $471 Million (2006 dollars). Options for the new electric rolling stock include electric locomotives with new or overhauled passenger cars, or electric multiple units.
- The citation provided for the date of electification says that Caltrain will have a plan by 2012, but final electrification will be done by 2025. Also, the citation provided about the stages of electrification shows three stages, SF to redwood City, Redwood City to Tamien, and Tamien to GIlroy. In contradiction, I spoke with Robert Doty a little while ago, where I heard electrification would be completed in many stages; SF to Millbrae, Millbrae to Redwood City, Redwood City to Mountian View, and Mountian View to San Jose, with no plans to electrify all the way to GIlroy.
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User:72.85.160.83 changed the type from "Commuter rail" to "Regional Rail". Then User:70.231.136.49 reverted it. I was skeptical of the change until I realized that Commuter rail redirects to Regional rail and treats them as the same thing. So maybe it makes sense. What do people think? aaronrp 17:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Can someone add some information about the new Muni T line connection? I would do so, but I don't feel I'm qualified. Thanks 69.109.124.192 03:47, 15 May 2007 (UTC)Cameron
Concerned about the flat-out statement that such service "will be popular". Seems like fortune-telling. I'd be fine with "is expected to be popular" or even "would probably be popular". I'm also concerned about the tone of the statement that "even the purchase of the rail line is being opposed by certain activists from Aptos". Probably factually true, but could be worded better, IMHO. Thoughts? 69.110.235.117 19:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
As of January 1, BART is eliminating the Millbrae-SFO trains, so the only way to connect from Caltrain to the airport will be by taking BART up to San Bruno, transferring, and then going back down to SFO. Unless Caltrain re-institutes its Millbrae-SFO bus shuttle, it effectively makes Caltrain no longer a reasonable airport option. -- Delirium ( talk) 22:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
One thing i usually look for when reading about public transportation systems is how much it cost to build and what its budget is like. This information helps me decide whether my elected officials are doing a good job. I realize this information can lead to arguments, so I propose adding the information without adding opinion with it. The most recent information i found was in (DRAFT) Short Range Transit Plan – Fiscal Years 2008 to 2017 on page 27. It's located at http://www.caltrain.com/pdf/Caltrain_SRTP/SRTP_Caltrain_Draft_2008-2017.pdf . It lists Total operating cost, fare revenue, etc. A box is a possibility that lists these figures over the last few years, similar to how caltrain listed it in the report. I feel it is good to add to wikipedia because the information is difficult to find and this will make the information more available. I'll add it below the ticketing section since it has to do with money, but can be moved to another section if people feel if fits there better. -- RTrain33 24 Jan 2008
I plan to create a list about Caltrain stations, similar to current FLC List of Bay Area Rapid Transit stations. But it seems to me that there is a detailed list of stations here already, I thought I should ask first. If there is no objection, I will go ahead and create it. Thanks— Chris! c t 05:06, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I merged the entire list back into this article. The model of List of Bay Area Rapid Transit stations is a poor one for Caltrain, as it is a single line service, not a multiple-branched system, so it's more akin to South Shore Line (NICTD) or Altamont Commuter Express. In such cases, having the stations list in the main article prevents unnecessary splitting of info, as the article is ultimately about both the service provided and the physical line upon which it runs.the fact that every other part of the list article was redundant and near-verbatim from this article only convinced me further. oknazevad ( talk) 10:06, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
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I think the first reference on ridership is orphaned and should be replaced with http://www.caltrain.com/AssetFactory.aspx?did=3242 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.151.76.33 ( talk) 21:15, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
To get a revised version of this page to save, I had to remove the URLs for both the San Francisco Examiner articles in the refs. I don't know what Wikipedia has against this particular newspaper, but both URLs should be Google-able in future, or findable via the history, when the policy changes back to allowing them. Yngvadottir ( talk) 12:54, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Seems like these should be merged, which the JPB becoming a "Governance" section. The Joint Powers Board has no independent notability, as it exists solely to oversee Caltrain, and the article is only about one paragraph of material. Just seems like we don't need a separate article for it. oknazevad ( talk) 14:19, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Please see Butler Road (Peninsula Commute station). I know the refs look messy; I'll clean them up. My main question is: Should we add that long-closed (since 1983) station to the Caltrain template, which lists other closed stations like Castro and Paul Avenue? Technically, Butler Road was never a Caltrain station, since Southern Pacific ran the line until just after it was closed, but Butler Road is still part of the historical service on what is now Caltrain. Thoughts? Moncrief ( talk) 18:30, 20 March 2013 (UTC) Edit: On looking again at the Peninsula Commute page, my belief is that the new article should be added to the Caltrain template as one of the italicized closed stations there, since the Caltrain template also includes the Peninsula Commute itself. Moncrief ( talk) 19:01, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Not sure where to work it in, but I've just imported a photo by Drew Jacksich showing Caltrain's original paint scheme from 1985 (at right). I think those are ex-SP Pullman-Standard gallery cars. Mackensen (talk) 14:25, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Would it be useful to have locomotive names alongside their numbers? E.g. 901 San Jose, 905 Sunnyvale, 906 Burlingame, 919 County of Santa Clara. Runner1928 ( talk) 03:34, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Recently, this article was moved to CalTrain (San Francisco). I've moved it back as there was no consensus for this move, and the move is inappropriate for two reasons: this service is named Caltrain, not CalTrain, and this article is absolutely the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Caltrain" or "CalTrain". Mackensen (talk) 02:41, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
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There has got to be a mistake in that APTA report. There is no way Caltrain has more riders than LIRR or Metro-North. Also, 216,400 per weekday would translate to over 70 million riders a year, not 5 million. Monthly totals around 500,000 are more believable. I am going to look for a more accurate daily ridership; if I cannot find any, we should removed the daily number and keep just monthly or annual figures. Mirza Ahmed ( talk) 20:44, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
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Am I correct in thinking that the Bay Meadows service stops only when there's racing (or something else - I think they do car boot sales in the parking lot) on there? If so, we should say that. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 10:06, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I figure it would be a nice addition to put the station list into a table, and in there denote the different ticketing zones. It's been a couple of years since I rode it last, but then there were nice colour codes on the tickets. Caltrain's page shows the different zones, but not the colours. If memory serves, the SF zone was green, but I can't remember the others. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 12:09, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The red star which shows the express train stops works very nice on linux (in both konqueror and firefox) but not on windowsXP (firefox, opera, IE). I think the font (which is explicitly specified in the default wikipedia stylesheet) doesn't contain that star glyph. Might I respectfully suggest this indication be changed to EX or something like that. - Dave
I think the Connection Section should be merged into the Station Stop Section by indicating the connecting transit lines behind the station name. What do you guys think? Also, can someone add a picture of MP36PH-3C in its Baby Bullet consist? Thanks. -- Will74205 21:17, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Can anyone clarify the fair use status of the newly included map, Image:Caltrain system map1.gif? A similar BART map is listed as "unverified" and "unsure of copyright status": Image:Map500.gif. Other transit services, such as NJ Transit, Long Island Rail Road do not include maps, or have maps that were made for Wikipedia: Image:Amtrak_schematic.png Image:NYC subway map.png. Comments? -- ChrisRuvolo 22:23, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
With thanks to everybody, the Caltrain article is probably the most detailed when compare with articles for other commuter rail lines/agencies. But I think this article is getting a little too long. Should we try to pare it down and direct people who need more detailed information to Caltrain website, or leave the article as it is. Thanks for any comments. -- Will74205 09:25, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
As promised, here's a test version of my proposed new (free) Caltrain map. I'm very eager for others comments and suggestions for improvement. I'm using Inkscape, a pretty powerful tool, so it's not to late to make changes (although labourious things like changing lots of fonts isn't going to make me happy).
Differences between this version and the offical Caltrain map:
Design issues
Things I'm happy with, which I'm probably not going to change:
Things I'm not happy with, but don't know how to fix (ideas welcome):
Stuff I'd like others to verify
Comments below, please. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 15:57, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
If anyone has a source, I think it would be interesting to track the comings and goings of various stations. Paul Ave is new, isn't it, and San Antonio replaced Castro. Belmont and Millbrae are essentially new stations with old names too. With the deprecations Will74205 describes above, I think the article can give an insight into changes in the area - I guess there's an ongoing shift in commuting patterns, with emphasis moving away from the mid peninsula and into the south bay. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 23:33, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I am moving toward adding a "Historical Stations" section when Caltrain modified its schedule this August, although I still need to do more research. Of course, if someone who is more knowledagable adds this section before I do, that would be great. -- Will74205 20:41, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
I've updated the map on the article, as promised. I won't be on wikipedia for several months (heck, I didn't plan on being here this long) so can I ask a couple of favours:
Later. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 20:41, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think it would be a good idea to add a picture of the Baby Bullet trainset (MP36PH-3C + Bombardier Bi-Level Coaches) in the article. I like to take a picture of it then posted here but couldn't find the time, can someone post a Baby Bullet picture? Also, I noticed that in the Japanese part of Caltrain article there is a Baby Bullet trainset picture but I couldn't find a way to link to it. Does anyone know how? Thanks. -- Will74205 10:59, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'm about to produce a revised map, with the red-listed stations removed from it. I'll upload it tomorrow. Are we confident that these three stations will close, or have they had some kind of last-minute reprieve? -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 13:42, July 31, 2005 (UTC)
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We should also note that Image:IMG 4291.sized.jpg, which is the last image on the article, is also listed for deletion for the same reasons as ticketmachine.jpg. Neither image has source or licensing information. Is there someone in the area who can create new images to replace these two? Preferably with images that have level horizons? AdThanksVance. Slambo (Speak) 20:52, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
So what improvements we need to do if we want this article to receive an rating that is above B? And what makes BART article a GA rated article compare to this one? -- Will74205 05:24, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
I think Peninsula Corridor Joint Powers Board article should become a section in the Caltrain article, since it only manages Caltrain. Also, I have been trying to find the funding formula of Caltrain but without much success, can someone point me to an website or provide the info? Thanks. -- Will74205 08:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I think it would make the Caltrain article too long if we merge these two articles into the Caltrain article. However, a separate article about the history of Caltrain is worth considering. There we can add more detailed history than what is in the Caltrain main article. -- Will74205 21:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I reverted the recent edit because it was a direct copy/paste from http://www.caltrain.com/news_2006_07_31_high-speed_internet.html Slambo (Speak) 20:41, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
In an attempt at making editing of the Caltrain map more accessible to others, I have taken User:Finlay McWalter's Caltrain map source at commons:Image:Wfm caltrain.png/source and made it into a SVG file and uploaded it to commons.
I had to make some changes to the layout, since the Wikimedia renderer doesn't have the same fonts as used in the PNG map. I also shrunk the compass rose, as I thought it was unnecessarily large.
So, the previous time this map was updated was September 2005. Are there more changes to the map that are needed? Let me know. -- ChrisRuvolo ( t) 16:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone provide some info on the current status of Caltrain's two GP9s? Last I heard was that they are broken. -- Will74205 05:07, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
I heard that they have been "mothballed" and are up for sale. I have also heard that one may have a bent frame, which means for sure it will never run again. - Insomniac186
I was thinking we should have something written here about the wireless internet service, here are two useful sources [4], and [5], I haven't been able to find a good section for it though. -- JVittes 02:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I just made the following change to the article:
Since Downtown Extension requires tunneling and thus electrification, Caltrain also plans to electrify the whole system from San Francisco to Gilroy. This project has the potential to
decrease equipment maintenance costs, lessen impact of fuel price fluctuation,reduce noise, and give Caltrain a modern image that is comparable to the BART service.The recent diesel price volatility has lent this project more urgency. (Rising fuel costs have caused Caltrain to plan a fare increse to go into effect in April 2007.)Caltrain plans to complete electrification by 2025. [1]
Although technically correct, the existing text was misleading:
If anyone has comments about this change, please leave them here. Vectro 19:07, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
— Vectro 20:40, 9 November 2006 (UTC)The proposed caltrain electrification project would convert the entire caltrain system from the current diesel-electric locomotive power source to a fully electric rolling stock. Although the project has an estimated total cost of $600-865 million [2], some of these costs can be offset by savings of $1-2 million a year in fuel and other saved costs. Electrified vehicles require less maintenance, but electrification will increase required track maintenance by approximately the same dollar amount, at least initially. In addition to the San Francisco extension, electrification can reduce noise and improve service times. Caltrain plans to complete electrification by 2025 [3], since at least partial electrification is required for any downtown extension.
During the latest development, the electrification project was split into two phases, with first phase between San Fransicso and Tamien in San Jose, and second phase between Tamien and Gilroy. [4] The capital cost, excluding electric rolling stock, for the first phase is estimated at $471 Million (2006 dollars). Options for the new electric rolling stock include electric locomotives with new or overhauled passenger cars, or electric multiple units.
- The citation provided for the date of electification says that Caltrain will have a plan by 2012, but final electrification will be done by 2025. Also, the citation provided about the stages of electrification shows three stages, SF to redwood City, Redwood City to Tamien, and Tamien to GIlroy. In contradiction, I spoke with Robert Doty a little while ago, where I heard electrification would be completed in many stages; SF to Millbrae, Millbrae to Redwood City, Redwood City to Mountian View, and Mountian View to San Jose, with no plans to electrify all the way to GIlroy.
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User:72.85.160.83 changed the type from "Commuter rail" to "Regional Rail". Then User:70.231.136.49 reverted it. I was skeptical of the change until I realized that Commuter rail redirects to Regional rail and treats them as the same thing. So maybe it makes sense. What do people think? aaronrp 17:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Can someone add some information about the new Muni T line connection? I would do so, but I don't feel I'm qualified. Thanks 69.109.124.192 03:47, 15 May 2007 (UTC)Cameron
Concerned about the flat-out statement that such service "will be popular". Seems like fortune-telling. I'd be fine with "is expected to be popular" or even "would probably be popular". I'm also concerned about the tone of the statement that "even the purchase of the rail line is being opposed by certain activists from Aptos". Probably factually true, but could be worded better, IMHO. Thoughts? 69.110.235.117 19:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
As of January 1, BART is eliminating the Millbrae-SFO trains, so the only way to connect from Caltrain to the airport will be by taking BART up to San Bruno, transferring, and then going back down to SFO. Unless Caltrain re-institutes its Millbrae-SFO bus shuttle, it effectively makes Caltrain no longer a reasonable airport option. -- Delirium ( talk) 22:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
One thing i usually look for when reading about public transportation systems is how much it cost to build and what its budget is like. This information helps me decide whether my elected officials are doing a good job. I realize this information can lead to arguments, so I propose adding the information without adding opinion with it. The most recent information i found was in (DRAFT) Short Range Transit Plan – Fiscal Years 2008 to 2017 on page 27. It's located at http://www.caltrain.com/pdf/Caltrain_SRTP/SRTP_Caltrain_Draft_2008-2017.pdf . It lists Total operating cost, fare revenue, etc. A box is a possibility that lists these figures over the last few years, similar to how caltrain listed it in the report. I feel it is good to add to wikipedia because the information is difficult to find and this will make the information more available. I'll add it below the ticketing section since it has to do with money, but can be moved to another section if people feel if fits there better. -- RTrain33 24 Jan 2008
I plan to create a list about Caltrain stations, similar to current FLC List of Bay Area Rapid Transit stations. But it seems to me that there is a detailed list of stations here already, I thought I should ask first. If there is no objection, I will go ahead and create it. Thanks— Chris! c t 05:06, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I merged the entire list back into this article. The model of List of Bay Area Rapid Transit stations is a poor one for Caltrain, as it is a single line service, not a multiple-branched system, so it's more akin to South Shore Line (NICTD) or Altamont Commuter Express. In such cases, having the stations list in the main article prevents unnecessary splitting of info, as the article is ultimately about both the service provided and the physical line upon which it runs.the fact that every other part of the list article was redundant and near-verbatim from this article only convinced me further. oknazevad ( talk) 10:06, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Caltrain's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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I think the first reference on ridership is orphaned and should be replaced with http://www.caltrain.com/AssetFactory.aspx?did=3242 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.151.76.33 ( talk) 21:15, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
To get a revised version of this page to save, I had to remove the URLs for both the San Francisco Examiner articles in the refs. I don't know what Wikipedia has against this particular newspaper, but both URLs should be Google-able in future, or findable via the history, when the policy changes back to allowing them. Yngvadottir ( talk) 12:54, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Seems like these should be merged, which the JPB becoming a "Governance" section. The Joint Powers Board has no independent notability, as it exists solely to oversee Caltrain, and the article is only about one paragraph of material. Just seems like we don't need a separate article for it. oknazevad ( talk) 14:19, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Please see Butler Road (Peninsula Commute station). I know the refs look messy; I'll clean them up. My main question is: Should we add that long-closed (since 1983) station to the Caltrain template, which lists other closed stations like Castro and Paul Avenue? Technically, Butler Road was never a Caltrain station, since Southern Pacific ran the line until just after it was closed, but Butler Road is still part of the historical service on what is now Caltrain. Thoughts? Moncrief ( talk) 18:30, 20 March 2013 (UTC) Edit: On looking again at the Peninsula Commute page, my belief is that the new article should be added to the Caltrain template as one of the italicized closed stations there, since the Caltrain template also includes the Peninsula Commute itself. Moncrief ( talk) 19:01, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Not sure where to work it in, but I've just imported a photo by Drew Jacksich showing Caltrain's original paint scheme from 1985 (at right). I think those are ex-SP Pullman-Standard gallery cars. Mackensen (talk) 14:25, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Would it be useful to have locomotive names alongside their numbers? E.g. 901 San Jose, 905 Sunnyvale, 906 Burlingame, 919 County of Santa Clara. Runner1928 ( talk) 03:34, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Recently, this article was moved to CalTrain (San Francisco). I've moved it back as there was no consensus for this move, and the move is inappropriate for two reasons: this service is named Caltrain, not CalTrain, and this article is absolutely the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Caltrain" or "CalTrain". Mackensen (talk) 02:41, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
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There has got to be a mistake in that APTA report. There is no way Caltrain has more riders than LIRR or Metro-North. Also, 216,400 per weekday would translate to over 70 million riders a year, not 5 million. Monthly totals around 500,000 are more believable. I am going to look for a more accurate daily ridership; if I cannot find any, we should removed the daily number and keep just monthly or annual figures. Mirza Ahmed ( talk) 20:44, 15 August 2022 (UTC)