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There must be a better way to provide information in this article that is current, or that doesn't need constant updates. Right now there are sections with data from 2012 and 2013, making much of the information obsolete for visitors. Artfullheart ( talk) 20:45, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
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Please change the following lines to include the entire position of the California Democratic Party. Thx
From : position = Center-left
To : position = Center-left to Left-wing 98.251.7.240 ( talk) 16:43, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
The California Democratic Party are self proclaimed social democrats. Social democrats are already established as "left wing" by wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy. I would argue that the Californian Democratic Party is Center-Left to Left Wing. AquaCorpsman ( talk) 15:00, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
|ans= no AquaCorpsman ( talk) 15:01, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
This page lists "Ideologies" of the California Democratic Party. If you Google search "California Democratic Party" there is an information box and within that information box there is a list of supposed "Ideologies". They are listed as "Social liberalism, Modern liberalism in the United States, Progressivism in the United States". I am proposing that this section be removed unless a reference can be provided. This is in regard to the recent controversy regarding the California Republican Party having one of their ideologies list "Nazism" on Wikipedia which resulted in the Google information box displaying "Nazism" as one of the California Republican Party ideologies. At first, Google removed "Nazism" from the ideologies list. I asked in the talk page of the California Republican Party "who determines the ideologies of a political party?" and since then the ideology box has been removed entirely (by someone else) from both the Wikipedia page and the Google information box. This is not vandalism because the California Republican Party doesn't state their ideologies on their platform or anywhere else. I cannot find anything on the California Democratic Party page that states what their ideologies are and so it should be removed from this page. 108.252.124.176 ( talk) 00:35, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
I noticed that when I Google search 'California Democratic Party' the ideologies are no longer displayed on the Google information box. Perhaps this discussion made some effect in that regard. Anyway, I'm going to delete the ideology section as it is not supported by any references. The ideologies seem to be more of an allegation than anything the political party actually claims.
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I found this contradicting source: [1]. It states that Bob Mulholland was California Democratic Party chair since 1994. Muholland is also labelled as California Democratic Party chair in this 1999 video: [2]. While Muholland clearly isn't chair now, we need to make sure we have a source for the current list of California Democratic Party chairs. Emass100 ( talk) 05:56, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
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CDP is more left-leaning than other states' Democratic Party. I think the rationale for CDP being centrist is insufficient.
Therefore, I think it is wise not to write down the political position of the CDP.-- Storm598 ( talk) 00:19, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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I think we should added ideology as “big tent” and put majority of the ideology and factions ideology based on the actions/speeches of major California Democratic Party’s number. The political position should be centre-right to left wing since the California Democratic Party contains Neoliberals, Modern liberals, Social Democrats and Democratic Socialists. Sirui JIN ( talk) 21:45, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Lol when you don’t want to argue and discuss the problem, you just put other people’s idea as “disruptive”, just like communists and fascists who states their oppositions as “reactionaries” or “traitors” uhh? Sirui JIN ( talk) 16:02, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
I suggest you to read wikipedia:Consensus /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Consensus Editing arguable Wikipedia information is based on discussions, not your personal preference. Sirui JIN ( talk) 16:20, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Substantively, as an executive board member of the CDP, I assert that the page should remain the way it is, without an ideology in the infobox. This is because I agree with the prior consensus that there are a range of viewpoints in the party, but they do not correspond to standard categories, and thus using such labels either misses significant elements or, as in the suggestion above, are overbroad and include political positions that are completely absent from the California Democratic Party. Glennglazer ( talk) 16:27, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Center-left seems appropriate, in fact you could even argue it to be center-left to left-wing. It's a bit farther left than the national Democratic Party. CrazyC83 ( talk) 21:25, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
The republican counter parts have political ideology, it is only reasonable therefore for the CDP to have the same. AquaCorpsman ( talk) 15:04, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
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Checked other State Democratic Party pages, all of them had an ideologies and sometimes political position list besides this one. Maybe we should add it in there. I suggest political position should be centre-left or maybe centre-left to left wing since it’s generally considered more progressive than other State Democratic Parties. Kevin454123 ( talk) 19:22, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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There must be a better way to provide information in this article that is current, or that doesn't need constant updates. Right now there are sections with data from 2012 and 2013, making much of the information obsolete for visitors. Artfullheart ( talk) 20:45, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
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Please change the following lines to include the entire position of the California Democratic Party. Thx
From : position = Center-left
To : position = Center-left to Left-wing 98.251.7.240 ( talk) 16:43, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
The California Democratic Party are self proclaimed social democrats. Social democrats are already established as "left wing" by wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy. I would argue that the Californian Democratic Party is Center-Left to Left Wing. AquaCorpsman ( talk) 15:00, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
|ans= no AquaCorpsman ( talk) 15:01, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
This page lists "Ideologies" of the California Democratic Party. If you Google search "California Democratic Party" there is an information box and within that information box there is a list of supposed "Ideologies". They are listed as "Social liberalism, Modern liberalism in the United States, Progressivism in the United States". I am proposing that this section be removed unless a reference can be provided. This is in regard to the recent controversy regarding the California Republican Party having one of their ideologies list "Nazism" on Wikipedia which resulted in the Google information box displaying "Nazism" as one of the California Republican Party ideologies. At first, Google removed "Nazism" from the ideologies list. I asked in the talk page of the California Republican Party "who determines the ideologies of a political party?" and since then the ideology box has been removed entirely (by someone else) from both the Wikipedia page and the Google information box. This is not vandalism because the California Republican Party doesn't state their ideologies on their platform or anywhere else. I cannot find anything on the California Democratic Party page that states what their ideologies are and so it should be removed from this page. 108.252.124.176 ( talk) 00:35, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
I noticed that when I Google search 'California Democratic Party' the ideologies are no longer displayed on the Google information box. Perhaps this discussion made some effect in that regard. Anyway, I'm going to delete the ideology section as it is not supported by any references. The ideologies seem to be more of an allegation than anything the political party actually claims.
108.252.124.176 (
talk)
00:08, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
I found this contradicting source: [1]. It states that Bob Mulholland was California Democratic Party chair since 1994. Muholland is also labelled as California Democratic Party chair in this 1999 video: [2]. While Muholland clearly isn't chair now, we need to make sure we have a source for the current list of California Democratic Party chairs. Emass100 ( talk) 05:56, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
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CDP is more left-leaning than other states' Democratic Party. I think the rationale for CDP being centrist is insufficient.
Therefore, I think it is wise not to write down the political position of the CDP.-- Storm598 ( talk) 00:19, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
References
I think we should added ideology as “big tent” and put majority of the ideology and factions ideology based on the actions/speeches of major California Democratic Party’s number. The political position should be centre-right to left wing since the California Democratic Party contains Neoliberals, Modern liberals, Social Democrats and Democratic Socialists. Sirui JIN ( talk) 21:45, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Lol when you don’t want to argue and discuss the problem, you just put other people’s idea as “disruptive”, just like communists and fascists who states their oppositions as “reactionaries” or “traitors” uhh? Sirui JIN ( talk) 16:02, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
I suggest you to read wikipedia:Consensus /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Consensus Editing arguable Wikipedia information is based on discussions, not your personal preference. Sirui JIN ( talk) 16:20, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Substantively, as an executive board member of the CDP, I assert that the page should remain the way it is, without an ideology in the infobox. This is because I agree with the prior consensus that there are a range of viewpoints in the party, but they do not correspond to standard categories, and thus using such labels either misses significant elements or, as in the suggestion above, are overbroad and include political positions that are completely absent from the California Democratic Party. Glennglazer ( talk) 16:27, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Center-left seems appropriate, in fact you could even argue it to be center-left to left-wing. It's a bit farther left than the national Democratic Party. CrazyC83 ( talk) 21:25, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
The republican counter parts have political ideology, it is only reasonable therefore for the CDP to have the same. AquaCorpsman ( talk) 15:04, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
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Checked other State Democratic Party pages, all of them had an ideologies and sometimes political position list besides this one. Maybe we should add it in there. I suggest political position should be centre-left or maybe centre-left to left wing since it’s generally considered more progressive than other State Democratic Parties. Kevin454123 ( talk) 19:22, 9 January 2023 (UTC)