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The result of the move request was: moved to California Conservation Camp Program, as the arguments for this name (primarily that it is the "official" name) are the most persuasive. There is no prejudice against creation of any of the named titles as redirects to this page. Primefac ( talk) 17:16, 3 October 2020 (UTC) Primefac ( talk) 17:16, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
California fire camps → ? – This article is not about fire camps per se, it is about camps for prisoners to fight wildfires, thus the current title fails WP:AT, it is neither accurate nor precise. "fire camp" would be any firefighter camp, not just for prisoners. The article calls these camps "conservation camps". So this article could be called California conservation camps of prisoners or Conservation camp (California) or California fire camps of prisoners -- 65.94.170.98 ( talk) 23:26, 16 September 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. User:Ceyockey ( talk to me) 00:08, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
The Conservation Camp Program was initiated by CDCR to provide able-bodied inmates the opportunity to work on meaningful projects throughout the state. (California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, " Conservation (fire) camps")
The larger debate in California is whether the state, which has the largest inmate firefighter program in the country, should be employing prisoners to fight fires in the first place. Incarcerated firefighters in California are paid $1 an hour when they are on the front lines, leading some to describe it as slave labor. (New York Times, " Coronavirus limits California's efforts to fight fires with prison labor")
Nevada has the same thing, with 10 similar Conservation Camps for minimum custody and trustee level inmates ( here). Inmates work with the Nevada Division of Forestry to fight fires. Does anyone know of other states that have similar programs? Betsybugaboo ( talk) 03:57, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved to California Conservation Camp Program, as the arguments for this name (primarily that it is the "official" name) are the most persuasive. There is no prejudice against creation of any of the named titles as redirects to this page. Primefac ( talk) 17:16, 3 October 2020 (UTC) Primefac ( talk) 17:16, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
California fire camps → ? – This article is not about fire camps per se, it is about camps for prisoners to fight wildfires, thus the current title fails WP:AT, it is neither accurate nor precise. "fire camp" would be any firefighter camp, not just for prisoners. The article calls these camps "conservation camps". So this article could be called California conservation camps of prisoners or Conservation camp (California) or California fire camps of prisoners -- 65.94.170.98 ( talk) 23:26, 16 September 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. User:Ceyockey ( talk to me) 00:08, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
The Conservation Camp Program was initiated by CDCR to provide able-bodied inmates the opportunity to work on meaningful projects throughout the state. (California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, " Conservation (fire) camps")
The larger debate in California is whether the state, which has the largest inmate firefighter program in the country, should be employing prisoners to fight fires in the first place. Incarcerated firefighters in California are paid $1 an hour when they are on the front lines, leading some to describe it as slave labor. (New York Times, " Coronavirus limits California's efforts to fight fires with prison labor")
Nevada has the same thing, with 10 similar Conservation Camps for minimum custody and trustee level inmates ( here). Inmates work with the Nevada Division of Forestry to fight fires. Does anyone know of other states that have similar programs? Betsybugaboo ( talk) 03:57, 21 September 2022 (UTC)